Post by Rob Caprio on Feb 28, 2020 22:36:23 GMT -5
All portions ©️ Robert Caprio 2006-2024
Notice To Lurkers:
Ben will deny these very obvious lies by claiming he has given evidence already (a favorite trick of the LNer clan) or that he has quoted me saying something, but do NOT fall for it. Demand him to provide this evidence to you. Demand that he provides my quote IN context as he has a habit of EDITING other peoples' words and ignoring clarifications even when they are made BEFORE he responded.
Ben will resort to insults and false accusations like all LNers do so take note of how often he does this.
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Let's start to add in Ben's OWN notice as he does EXACTLY what he warns you folks LNers will do!
“Important Note for Lurkers - there are many trolls on this forum who's only purpose is to obstruct debate, deny the evidence, and attempt to change message threads from discussing the evidence, to personal insults and attacks.” (Ben Holmes’s Refrain on his “series” posts.)
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This is another special "Provable Lie" as we will use differing comments by Ben to show us he is lying now or then. He never provided a shred of new evidence that was NOT available for the "then" comment, so to suggest he simply read something new and changed his mind is not on the table.
This topic is regarding the bullet fired at Gen. Walker on 4/10/63. Ben and I were discussing this recently and he said this to me.
“YOU also are listening to Walt too much and he will sink you as the DPD never mentioned a copper-jacketed bullet in the Walker shooting.
There is NO evidence showing LHO fired at Walker.” (Robert)
“Yes, moron, there is.” (Ben Holmes – 7/23/09)
There is??? I guess Ben considers CE 573 to be "evidence", huh? Despite the fact it was never identified by the police officer who found the bullet at the General Edwin A. Walker's (EAW) residence. Despite the fact the DPD report of the incident listed the bullet as a steel-jacketed type, and EAW's own testimony to the fact the bullet showed to him by the Warren Commission (WC) (CE 573) was NOT the bullet he saw and held on the night of the shooting. Some "evidence", huh?
Can Ben show us some evidence that actually SUPPORTS the claim that CE 573 was the bullet fired at EAW? I know this is a novel idea to Ben, but perhaps for once he will do this.
Ben has said many things about this topic to others many years ago. Like this.
“Toddy is too gutless to admit that the Walker bullet was **originally reported to be a steel jacketed bullet.**
Why is that, Toddy?
Why can't you answer Tomnln's question?” (Ben Holmes – 1/26/06)
It would appear Ben is the one "too gutless to admit" this fact now, huh?
Here are some more comments by Ben from awhile ago. This first one goes to the HEART OF THE MATTER AND IS THE SAME QUESTION BEN HAS BEEN RUNNING FROM WITH ME!
“Did you know that you've ducked Tomnln's question again? Something along the lines of "How did a steel jacket turn into a copper jacket?"
Do you plan on answering it? Or will you duck it again? Merely asserting that the DPD asserted that LHO killed JFK is no answer...for the DPD *also* asserted that no-one had ever been able to place LHO in that window.” (Ben Holmes – 1/26/06)
Yes, how did a steel-jacketed bullet turn into a copper-jacketed bullet Ben?
This next comment is great as it shows Todd Vaughn accusing Ben of the same thing he accuses me of -- accepting the Dallas Police Department (DPD)/WC evidence when it suits me! Watch what he tells him too!
“Oh, you accept the DPD only when it is convenient.” (Todd Vaughn)
“You seem confused... I accept their *EVIDENCE*, **I can make my own conclusions. That's why God gave me a brain, to use it.**
I accept *ALL* DPD evidence that isn't contradicted by other evidence, and that appears untainted by the frameup being conducted.
The "steel jacket" was found to be very inconvenient for people such as you, so you simply ignore it... don't you?” (Ben Holmes – 1/27/06)
Bravo Old Ben, this is MY point all the time but the current Ben just claims I don't accept the official evidence. I guess I can't use my "God given brain" to figure out that NONE of the key evidence supports a single claim made by the WC, huh?
The current Ben is finding the "steel jacket" bullet to be quite INCONVENIENT now too, huh?
Now what about the evidence that shows LHO fired at EAW (a lie he and Walt tell constantly)? Where is this evidence. Remember he said there was such evidence. Here it is again.
“YOU also are listening to Walt too much and he will sink you as the DPD never mentioned a copper-jacketed bullet in the Walker shooting.
**There is NO evidence showing LHO fired at Walker**.” (Robert)
“Yes, moron, there is.” (Ben Holmes – 7/23/09)
Where is it Ben? Ben has lied on so many counts I lost track. He is a liar who does NOT even agree with HIMSELF!
Will Ben ever produce this evidence that SUPPORTS the claim of the WC that LHO fired at EAW and used a copper-jacketed bullet?
I doubt it based on his track record, thus, we see he told more PROVABLE lies.
Notice To Lurkers:
Ben will deny these very obvious lies by claiming he has given evidence already (a favorite trick of the LNer clan) or that he has quoted me saying something, but do NOT fall for it. Demand him to provide this evidence to you. Demand that he provides my quote IN context as he has a habit of EDITING other peoples' words and ignoring clarifications even when they are made BEFORE he responded.
Ben will resort to insults and false accusations like all LNers do so take note of how often he does this.
*******************************************************************
Let's start to add in Ben's OWN notice as he does EXACTLY what he warns you folks LNers will do!
“Important Note for Lurkers - there are many trolls on this forum who's only purpose is to obstruct debate, deny the evidence, and attempt to change message threads from discussing the evidence, to personal insults and attacks.” (Ben Holmes’s Refrain on his “series” posts.)
******************************************************************
This is another special "Provable Lie" as we will use differing comments by Ben to show us he is lying now or then. He never provided a shred of new evidence that was NOT available for the "then" comment, so to suggest he simply read something new and changed his mind is not on the table.
This topic is regarding the bullet fired at Gen. Walker on 4/10/63. Ben and I were discussing this recently and he said this to me.
“YOU also are listening to Walt too much and he will sink you as the DPD never mentioned a copper-jacketed bullet in the Walker shooting.
There is NO evidence showing LHO fired at Walker.” (Robert)
“Yes, moron, there is.” (Ben Holmes – 7/23/09)
There is??? I guess Ben considers CE 573 to be "evidence", huh? Despite the fact it was never identified by the police officer who found the bullet at the General Edwin A. Walker's (EAW) residence. Despite the fact the DPD report of the incident listed the bullet as a steel-jacketed type, and EAW's own testimony to the fact the bullet showed to him by the Warren Commission (WC) (CE 573) was NOT the bullet he saw and held on the night of the shooting. Some "evidence", huh?
Can Ben show us some evidence that actually SUPPORTS the claim that CE 573 was the bullet fired at EAW? I know this is a novel idea to Ben, but perhaps for once he will do this.
Ben has said many things about this topic to others many years ago. Like this.
“Toddy is too gutless to admit that the Walker bullet was **originally reported to be a steel jacketed bullet.**
Why is that, Toddy?
Why can't you answer Tomnln's question?” (Ben Holmes – 1/26/06)
It would appear Ben is the one "too gutless to admit" this fact now, huh?
Here are some more comments by Ben from awhile ago. This first one goes to the HEART OF THE MATTER AND IS THE SAME QUESTION BEN HAS BEEN RUNNING FROM WITH ME!
“Did you know that you've ducked Tomnln's question again? Something along the lines of "How did a steel jacket turn into a copper jacket?"
Do you plan on answering it? Or will you duck it again? Merely asserting that the DPD asserted that LHO killed JFK is no answer...for the DPD *also* asserted that no-one had ever been able to place LHO in that window.” (Ben Holmes – 1/26/06)
Yes, how did a steel-jacketed bullet turn into a copper-jacketed bullet Ben?
This next comment is great as it shows Todd Vaughn accusing Ben of the same thing he accuses me of -- accepting the Dallas Police Department (DPD)/WC evidence when it suits me! Watch what he tells him too!
“Oh, you accept the DPD only when it is convenient.” (Todd Vaughn)
“You seem confused... I accept their *EVIDENCE*, **I can make my own conclusions. That's why God gave me a brain, to use it.**
I accept *ALL* DPD evidence that isn't contradicted by other evidence, and that appears untainted by the frameup being conducted.
The "steel jacket" was found to be very inconvenient for people such as you, so you simply ignore it... don't you?” (Ben Holmes – 1/27/06)
Bravo Old Ben, this is MY point all the time but the current Ben just claims I don't accept the official evidence. I guess I can't use my "God given brain" to figure out that NONE of the key evidence supports a single claim made by the WC, huh?
The current Ben is finding the "steel jacket" bullet to be quite INCONVENIENT now too, huh?
Now what about the evidence that shows LHO fired at EAW (a lie he and Walt tell constantly)? Where is this evidence. Remember he said there was such evidence. Here it is again.
“YOU also are listening to Walt too much and he will sink you as the DPD never mentioned a copper-jacketed bullet in the Walker shooting.
**There is NO evidence showing LHO fired at Walker**.” (Robert)
“Yes, moron, there is.” (Ben Holmes – 7/23/09)
Where is it Ben? Ben has lied on so many counts I lost track. He is a liar who does NOT even agree with HIMSELF!
Will Ben ever produce this evidence that SUPPORTS the claim of the WC that LHO fired at EAW and used a copper-jacketed bullet?
I doubt it based on his track record, thus, we see he told more PROVABLE lies.