Post by Rob Caprio on Oct 21, 2021 15:13:19 GMT -5
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We have covered the fabled bus ride Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) allegedly took after he left Texas School Book Depository (TSBD). As we saw NO one could be found to say he was actually on that bus with any support. Mary Bledsoe was the sole witness the Warren Commission (WC) had and as we saw she could NOT show she knew LHO prior to November 22, 1963, to say he was on the bus! We also saw the issue of the bus transfer. Cecil McWatters would NOT identify LHO as the man who got on his bus, thus, by extension he could NOT identify him as the man he gave the transfer to.
Finally, the issue of the shirt. LHO said he changed shirts and he is supported by other testimony so how could Bledsoe see him allegedly in the shirt he had NOT changed into yet?
Now, for the second leg of this famous on the lam run. The WC claimed LHO left the bus when it hit a lot of traffic and walked to the Greyhound bus station to catch a cab. He allegedly entered a cab driven by William Whaley. Let's look at his testimony.
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Mr. BALL. Mr. Whaley, what is your business?
Mr. WHALEY. I am a taxi driver, sir.
Mr. BALL. How long have you been a taxi driver?
Mr. WHALEY. 37 years.
Mr. BALL. You worked all that time in Dallas?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
So we see he is a taxi driver and has been working the Dallas area for 37 years.
Mr. BALL. Were you on duty on the 22d of November 1963?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What were your hours that day at work?
Mr. WHALEY. Well, my hours run from 6 to 4, sir; 6 in the morning to 4 in the afternoon.
We also see he was on duty on the day of the assassination.
Mr. BALL. Do you operate on cab stands or do you cruise?
Mr. WHALEY. No, sir; you just go out in the morning and wherever they send you you go to work and wherever you unload you check in they give you another call like that.
Mr. BALL. About 12:30 that day where were you?
Mr. WHALEY. Well, about 12:30 as you say, sir; I was at the Greyhound bus station. I have a copy of my trip sheet here.
We see he was on call at the Greyhound bus station at 12:30 PM. What is this?
Mr. BALL. Could I see that, please?
Mr. WHALEY. The FBI took the original and the pictures of the cab and everything.
Mr. BALL. That is what I have been waiting for.
Mr. WHALEY. I think it is supposed to be delivered to you, sir.
Mr. BALL. That is right. I am glad you have that copy.
There is no date given for when this testimony was taken, but let's assume it was at least in March of 1964. Why has the FBI NOT given the original trip sheet and photos to the WC by now? He even says, "I'm glad you have that copy" as IF he didn't they couldn't proceed. Is this how you run an investigation into the death of the POTUS? I'm not "interpreting" here either as Whaley says this next!
Mr. WHALEY. I thought maybe you might need it. You look down there it says Greyhound, 500 North Beckley, I think it is marked 12:30 to 12:45. Now that could have been 10 minutes off in each direction because I didn't use a watch, I just guess, in other words, all my trips are marked about 15 minutes each.
This one statement is loaded with goodies. First of all, was Whaley clairvoyant? How did he know they "might need" his copy of the trip sheet? Did he get a feeling or was he told by the FBI they would be keeping this stuff? Secondly, notice how he supposedly marked the trip (presumably with LHO on board) as 12:30-12:45 PM. Thirdly, note how he *CLAIMS* to use 15-minute blocks for ALL his trips. Remember this comment for later. More on the trip sheet and you can view it in Commission Exhibit (CE) 382.
CE 382: www.historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0500a.jpg
Mr. BALL. I am going to let you use this manifest to refresh your memory, Mr. Whaley. I have seen it. I am going to ask you some questions and you refresh your memory if you will from the manifest.
First of all, describe the document you are using, what is that?
Mr. WHALEY. It is a trip sheet manifest. The company gets the amount of money you have run, your meter reading and all, and they have to keep it because of the city ordinance requirement that the taxis make this kind of manifest.
Mr. BALL. Tell me when you make the entries, you make the entries when?
Mr. WHALEY. Sometimes I make them right after I make the trips, sir, and sometimes I make three or four trips before I make the entries.
Mr. BALL. Are you required by your employer to describe the trip, where you went, how far it was?
Mr. WHALEY. Not by the employer, sir. All the employers are interested in are the meter reading and your tolls. The city of Dallas ordinance requires that you put down where you picked the passenger up, where you unload the passenger. They are not interested in the price, the number of passengers and the time.
Alright, this gives us the background we need on the trip sheet and how and why it is used. Let's move on, but remember his comment on how he marked the times in.
He then gives a couple of examples to show he uses a "15 minute block format" for his trip sheet to support the claim the WC would be making regarding LHO.
Mr. BALL. I see.
Now, look at your manifest and tell me where you were at 12 o'clock the day of November 22, 1963.
Mr. WHALEY. 12 o'clock I got a call to the Travis Hotel. I have got it marked 16 which is the Continental bus station, stand No. 15, 55 cents. I unloaded that at 12:15.
Mr. BALL. Then where did you go at 12:15 according to you record?
Mr. WHALEY. According to my record I got a pickup at the Continental bus station which is stand 16 and went to the Greyhound which is 55 cents. I unloaded at the Greyhound, I have got it marked 12:30. See there is that 15 minutes you say I am off, I just mark it 15, I don't put the correct time on the sheet because they don't require it, sir, but anywhere approximate.
Mr. BALL. In other words, it took you about 15 minutes to go--
Mr. WHALEY. It actually took about nine minutes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And you put the trip ending Greyhound around 12:30?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
So we see he has everything marked down in 15 minute increments. Did he really keep his log in this fashion? We shall see. Remember, we are working off an alleged COPY that he brought in! Keep that in mind too.
Now we get to the approach of LHO supposedly to his cab.
Mr. BALL. Did you notice how he was dressed?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. I didn't pay much attention to it right then. But it all came back when I really found out who I had. He was dressed in just ordinary work clothes. It wasn't khaki pants but they were khaki material, blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki. Then he had on a brown shirt with a little silverlike stripe on it and he had on some kind of jacket, I didn't notice very close but I think it was a work jacket that almost matched the pants.
He, his shirt was open three buttons down here. He had on a T-shirt. You know, the shirt was open three buttons down there.
This doesn't sound anything like the way LHO was dressed, save for the shirt, but even that LHO said he changed into. We also know LHO left his jacket at the TSBD so where did he get one to be wearing when Whaley saw him?
Mr. BALL. Now, what happened after that, will you tell us in your own words what he did?
Mr. WHALEY. Well, on this which was the 14th trip when I picked up at the Greyhound I marked it 12:30 to 12:45.
Mr. BALL. You say that can be off 15 minutes?
Mr. WHALEY. That can be off either direction.
Mr. BALL. Anything up to 15 minutes, you say?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir; I wrote that trip up the same time I wrote the one up from the Continental bus station to the Greyhound, I marked this 12:15 to 12:30 and started 12:30 to 12:45. And the next one starts at 1:15 to 1:30 and it goes on all day long every 15 minutes the time keeps pretty approximate.
What kind of record keeping is this? LHO supposedly entered the cab at 12:47 PM, but he gets marked down in the "block" of 12:30-12:45 PM? What? Why would he NOT fit the 12:45-1:00 PM block? This copy of the log shows LHO entering the cab at the TIME JFK WAS BEING SHOT!
It should be noted too that Whaley's log (CE-370) showed times of 6:20 a.m., 7:50 a.m., 8:10 a.m., 9:40 a.m., 10:50 a.m. and 3:10 p.m. ON THAT DAY! So what happened to the "15 minute block" method on these occasions?
Remember, LHO was supposedly on the RUN from killing JFK, but he took the time to offer his cab (supposedly his escape vehicle) to an old lady!
Mr. BALL. Let's take the 12:30 trip, tell me about that, what the passenger said.
Mr. WHALEY. He said, "May I have the cab?"
I said, "You sure can. Get in." And instead of opening the back door he opened the front door, which is allowable there, and got in.
Mr. BALL. Got in the front door?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. The front seat. And about that time an old lady, I think she was an old lady, I don't remember nothing but her sticking her head down past him in the door and said, "Driver, will you call me a cab down here?"
She had seen him get this cab and she wanted one, too, and he opened the door a little bit like he was going to get out and he said, "I will let you have this one," and she says, "No, the driver can call me one."
So, I didn't call one because I knew before I could call one would come around the block and keep it pretty well covered.
And yet, we are to believe LHO was a crazed killer on the run! He would sit in the front right next to Whaley so he had a good view of him. They would try and get him to ID CE-162 as the jacket he saw LHO wearing.
Mr. BALL. Here is Commission No. 162 which is a gray jacket with zipper.
Mr. WHALEY. I thank that is the jacket he had on when he rode with me in the cab.
Mr. BALL. Look something like it?
And here is Commission Exhibit No. 163, does this look like anything he had on?
Mr. WHALEY. He had this one on or the other one.
Mr. BALL. That is right.
Mr. WHALEY. That is what I told you I noticed. I told you about the shirt being open, he had on the two jackets with the open shirt.
Here we have Whaley saying LHO wore a blue jacket that would be found in the depository 10 days later (domino room) and the gray zipper jacket he would not put on until he got to the rooming house according to the WC. How can this be? It is possible this man (the real passenger in Whaley's cab) was part of the frame and the blue jacket would be left at the TSBD, and of course he would leave the gray jacket to be found near the Tippit murder scene.
It is clear if you read his full testimony, and how he noted his log for real, that he did NOT pick LHO up. The person described did NOT match LHO at all. It is troubling too that a COPY of the trip sheet was used instead of the ORIGINAL that the FBI still allegedly was withholding. Why would they do that?
The evidence we see in this post disputes the claim of the WC. Why did they make a claim that they had no evidence for IF they were searching for the truth as they claimed?
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We have covered the fabled bus ride Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) allegedly took after he left Texas School Book Depository (TSBD). As we saw NO one could be found to say he was actually on that bus with any support. Mary Bledsoe was the sole witness the Warren Commission (WC) had and as we saw she could NOT show she knew LHO prior to November 22, 1963, to say he was on the bus! We also saw the issue of the bus transfer. Cecil McWatters would NOT identify LHO as the man who got on his bus, thus, by extension he could NOT identify him as the man he gave the transfer to.
Finally, the issue of the shirt. LHO said he changed shirts and he is supported by other testimony so how could Bledsoe see him allegedly in the shirt he had NOT changed into yet?
Now, for the second leg of this famous on the lam run. The WC claimed LHO left the bus when it hit a lot of traffic and walked to the Greyhound bus station to catch a cab. He allegedly entered a cab driven by William Whaley. Let's look at his testimony.
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Mr. BALL. Mr. Whaley, what is your business?
Mr. WHALEY. I am a taxi driver, sir.
Mr. BALL. How long have you been a taxi driver?
Mr. WHALEY. 37 years.
Mr. BALL. You worked all that time in Dallas?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
So we see he is a taxi driver and has been working the Dallas area for 37 years.
Mr. BALL. Were you on duty on the 22d of November 1963?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What were your hours that day at work?
Mr. WHALEY. Well, my hours run from 6 to 4, sir; 6 in the morning to 4 in the afternoon.
We also see he was on duty on the day of the assassination.
Mr. BALL. Do you operate on cab stands or do you cruise?
Mr. WHALEY. No, sir; you just go out in the morning and wherever they send you you go to work and wherever you unload you check in they give you another call like that.
Mr. BALL. About 12:30 that day where were you?
Mr. WHALEY. Well, about 12:30 as you say, sir; I was at the Greyhound bus station. I have a copy of my trip sheet here.
We see he was on call at the Greyhound bus station at 12:30 PM. What is this?
Mr. BALL. Could I see that, please?
Mr. WHALEY. The FBI took the original and the pictures of the cab and everything.
Mr. BALL. That is what I have been waiting for.
Mr. WHALEY. I think it is supposed to be delivered to you, sir.
Mr. BALL. That is right. I am glad you have that copy.
There is no date given for when this testimony was taken, but let's assume it was at least in March of 1964. Why has the FBI NOT given the original trip sheet and photos to the WC by now? He even says, "I'm glad you have that copy" as IF he didn't they couldn't proceed. Is this how you run an investigation into the death of the POTUS? I'm not "interpreting" here either as Whaley says this next!
Mr. WHALEY. I thought maybe you might need it. You look down there it says Greyhound, 500 North Beckley, I think it is marked 12:30 to 12:45. Now that could have been 10 minutes off in each direction because I didn't use a watch, I just guess, in other words, all my trips are marked about 15 minutes each.
This one statement is loaded with goodies. First of all, was Whaley clairvoyant? How did he know they "might need" his copy of the trip sheet? Did he get a feeling or was he told by the FBI they would be keeping this stuff? Secondly, notice how he supposedly marked the trip (presumably with LHO on board) as 12:30-12:45 PM. Thirdly, note how he *CLAIMS* to use 15-minute blocks for ALL his trips. Remember this comment for later. More on the trip sheet and you can view it in Commission Exhibit (CE) 382.
CE 382: www.historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0500a.jpg
Mr. BALL. I am going to let you use this manifest to refresh your memory, Mr. Whaley. I have seen it. I am going to ask you some questions and you refresh your memory if you will from the manifest.
First of all, describe the document you are using, what is that?
Mr. WHALEY. It is a trip sheet manifest. The company gets the amount of money you have run, your meter reading and all, and they have to keep it because of the city ordinance requirement that the taxis make this kind of manifest.
Mr. BALL. Tell me when you make the entries, you make the entries when?
Mr. WHALEY. Sometimes I make them right after I make the trips, sir, and sometimes I make three or four trips before I make the entries.
Mr. BALL. Are you required by your employer to describe the trip, where you went, how far it was?
Mr. WHALEY. Not by the employer, sir. All the employers are interested in are the meter reading and your tolls. The city of Dallas ordinance requires that you put down where you picked the passenger up, where you unload the passenger. They are not interested in the price, the number of passengers and the time.
Alright, this gives us the background we need on the trip sheet and how and why it is used. Let's move on, but remember his comment on how he marked the times in.
He then gives a couple of examples to show he uses a "15 minute block format" for his trip sheet to support the claim the WC would be making regarding LHO.
Mr. BALL. I see.
Now, look at your manifest and tell me where you were at 12 o'clock the day of November 22, 1963.
Mr. WHALEY. 12 o'clock I got a call to the Travis Hotel. I have got it marked 16 which is the Continental bus station, stand No. 15, 55 cents. I unloaded that at 12:15.
Mr. BALL. Then where did you go at 12:15 according to you record?
Mr. WHALEY. According to my record I got a pickup at the Continental bus station which is stand 16 and went to the Greyhound which is 55 cents. I unloaded at the Greyhound, I have got it marked 12:30. See there is that 15 minutes you say I am off, I just mark it 15, I don't put the correct time on the sheet because they don't require it, sir, but anywhere approximate.
Mr. BALL. In other words, it took you about 15 minutes to go--
Mr. WHALEY. It actually took about nine minutes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And you put the trip ending Greyhound around 12:30?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
So we see he has everything marked down in 15 minute increments. Did he really keep his log in this fashion? We shall see. Remember, we are working off an alleged COPY that he brought in! Keep that in mind too.
Now we get to the approach of LHO supposedly to his cab.
Mr. BALL. Did you notice how he was dressed?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. I didn't pay much attention to it right then. But it all came back when I really found out who I had. He was dressed in just ordinary work clothes. It wasn't khaki pants but they were khaki material, blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki. Then he had on a brown shirt with a little silverlike stripe on it and he had on some kind of jacket, I didn't notice very close but I think it was a work jacket that almost matched the pants.
He, his shirt was open three buttons down here. He had on a T-shirt. You know, the shirt was open three buttons down there.
This doesn't sound anything like the way LHO was dressed, save for the shirt, but even that LHO said he changed into. We also know LHO left his jacket at the TSBD so where did he get one to be wearing when Whaley saw him?
Mr. BALL. Now, what happened after that, will you tell us in your own words what he did?
Mr. WHALEY. Well, on this which was the 14th trip when I picked up at the Greyhound I marked it 12:30 to 12:45.
Mr. BALL. You say that can be off 15 minutes?
Mr. WHALEY. That can be off either direction.
Mr. BALL. Anything up to 15 minutes, you say?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir; I wrote that trip up the same time I wrote the one up from the Continental bus station to the Greyhound, I marked this 12:15 to 12:30 and started 12:30 to 12:45. And the next one starts at 1:15 to 1:30 and it goes on all day long every 15 minutes the time keeps pretty approximate.
What kind of record keeping is this? LHO supposedly entered the cab at 12:47 PM, but he gets marked down in the "block" of 12:30-12:45 PM? What? Why would he NOT fit the 12:45-1:00 PM block? This copy of the log shows LHO entering the cab at the TIME JFK WAS BEING SHOT!
It should be noted too that Whaley's log (CE-370) showed times of 6:20 a.m., 7:50 a.m., 8:10 a.m., 9:40 a.m., 10:50 a.m. and 3:10 p.m. ON THAT DAY! So what happened to the "15 minute block" method on these occasions?
Remember, LHO was supposedly on the RUN from killing JFK, but he took the time to offer his cab (supposedly his escape vehicle) to an old lady!
Mr. BALL. Let's take the 12:30 trip, tell me about that, what the passenger said.
Mr. WHALEY. He said, "May I have the cab?"
I said, "You sure can. Get in." And instead of opening the back door he opened the front door, which is allowable there, and got in.
Mr. BALL. Got in the front door?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. The front seat. And about that time an old lady, I think she was an old lady, I don't remember nothing but her sticking her head down past him in the door and said, "Driver, will you call me a cab down here?"
She had seen him get this cab and she wanted one, too, and he opened the door a little bit like he was going to get out and he said, "I will let you have this one," and she says, "No, the driver can call me one."
So, I didn't call one because I knew before I could call one would come around the block and keep it pretty well covered.
And yet, we are to believe LHO was a crazed killer on the run! He would sit in the front right next to Whaley so he had a good view of him. They would try and get him to ID CE-162 as the jacket he saw LHO wearing.
Mr. BALL. Here is Commission No. 162 which is a gray jacket with zipper.
Mr. WHALEY. I thank that is the jacket he had on when he rode with me in the cab.
Mr. BALL. Look something like it?
And here is Commission Exhibit No. 163, does this look like anything he had on?
Mr. WHALEY. He had this one on or the other one.
Mr. BALL. That is right.
Mr. WHALEY. That is what I told you I noticed. I told you about the shirt being open, he had on the two jackets with the open shirt.
Here we have Whaley saying LHO wore a blue jacket that would be found in the depository 10 days later (domino room) and the gray zipper jacket he would not put on until he got to the rooming house according to the WC. How can this be? It is possible this man (the real passenger in Whaley's cab) was part of the frame and the blue jacket would be left at the TSBD, and of course he would leave the gray jacket to be found near the Tippit murder scene.
It is clear if you read his full testimony, and how he noted his log for real, that he did NOT pick LHO up. The person described did NOT match LHO at all. It is troubling too that a COPY of the trip sheet was used instead of the ORIGINAL that the FBI still allegedly was withholding. Why would they do that?
The evidence we see in this post disputes the claim of the WC. Why did they make a claim that they had no evidence for IF they were searching for the truth as they claimed?