Post by Gil Jesus on Jul 23, 2022 8:12:34 GMT -5
The Warren Commission was never able to determine where Oswald bought his .38 special ammunition. It claimed that he fired 4 and possibly 5 shots at J.D. Tippit and when he was arrested there were 6 unfired cartridges in the revolver and another 5 unfired cartridges were later found in his pants pocket at about 4pm.
There may have been a reason why they could find anyone who had sold Oswald the ammunition: he never owned any.
So where did the 11 unfired rounds attributed to him come from?
At 3: 30 pm, 11 unfired rounds were turned in to the police station. They had been recovered from the possessions of Officer J.D. Tippit.
The "3 live .38 rounds" mentioned in this report was wrong as the below report shows. The "3" is crossed out. There were 11 recovered from Tippit's possessions.
When there is a discrepancy, sworn testimony always trumps written reports. Testimony given under oath and under the penalty of perjury is always more credible. In that regard, Sgt. Hill never turned the weapon or the cartridges over to Lt. Baker at 3:15 pm. When under oath, Hill testified that at "approximately 4pm", he marked the six shells "from the revolver" in Westbrook's office.
They brought Oswald into the police station around 2:15 pm. If the cartridges had truly come from the revolver, there was no reason to wait an hour or more to unload the weapon and mark them. Marking them should have been the first thing Hill did when he unloaded the weapon. That is, of course, if the weapon wasn't empty. If they tried to plant an empty revolver on Oswald at the Texas Theater, they would have needed cartridges after the arrest to make it look like the weapon was loaded all along. If they didn't have those readily available, they would have needed to wait until they got some.
Hence, the Tippit cartridges.
Also, Hill's marking of the cartridges was around the same time Det. Boyd "found" the remaining five unfired rounds in Oswald's pants pocket on the way to the 4:05 line up. This "discovery" was made after Oswald had been thoroughly searched twice by Det. Bentley and again by Off. Walker.
Again, the marking of the six rounds and the "discovery of another five rounds in Oswald's pocket" was 30 minutes after the 11 unfired rounds recovered from Tippit were in the building.
Could those 11 Tippit cartridges have been the source of the 11 cartridges attributed to Oswald ?
The number and type of cartridges is right. The timing is right.
And there is a problem with officers who handled the evidence never being called to testify.
The fact that Bentley, Doughty, Davenport, Bardin and Baker were never called to testify regarding the search, the number and the possession of the unfired rounds leaves wide open the door that the evidence was planted by the Dallas Police.
Five officers who handled evidence who were never called.
One is an oversight, not five.
But there's more to indicate a police source to these cartridges.
The corrosion of the casing on the cartridges indicates that they had been in a gunbelt or a bullet slide for a long time.
The six cartridges "removed from the revolver" ( CE 145, CE 518 ) had the same corrosion on them as the five "found" in Oswald's pocket (CE 592). Even in the Commission's black-and-white photos, the corrosion is detectable (lighter grey).
Having had the experience with these things, I've always suspected that the source of these cartridges was a police source.
Then there's the question of how Oswald, who had little experience with handguns, would have known that the .38 revolver he ordered had been rechambered and could only fire .38 special ammunition.
I know this will cause those on the "Oswald-did-it" side some angst, but one thing I'm sure of, the evidence indicates that:
The six unfired rounds that were "in the revolver" and five that were "found" in Oswald's pants pocket were the same 11 cartridges that came from the personal effects recovered from J.D. Tippit.
Of that I have no doubt. Too many coincidences and too many witnesses ignored.
There may have been a reason why they could find anyone who had sold Oswald the ammunition: he never owned any.
So where did the 11 unfired rounds attributed to him come from?
At 3: 30 pm, 11 unfired rounds were turned in to the police station. They had been recovered from the possessions of Officer J.D. Tippit.
The "3 live .38 rounds" mentioned in this report was wrong as the below report shows. The "3" is crossed out. There were 11 recovered from Tippit's possessions.
When there is a discrepancy, sworn testimony always trumps written reports. Testimony given under oath and under the penalty of perjury is always more credible. In that regard, Sgt. Hill never turned the weapon or the cartridges over to Lt. Baker at 3:15 pm. When under oath, Hill testified that at "approximately 4pm", he marked the six shells "from the revolver" in Westbrook's office.
They brought Oswald into the police station around 2:15 pm. If the cartridges had truly come from the revolver, there was no reason to wait an hour or more to unload the weapon and mark them. Marking them should have been the first thing Hill did when he unloaded the weapon. That is, of course, if the weapon wasn't empty. If they tried to plant an empty revolver on Oswald at the Texas Theater, they would have needed cartridges after the arrest to make it look like the weapon was loaded all along. If they didn't have those readily available, they would have needed to wait until they got some.
Hence, the Tippit cartridges.
Also, Hill's marking of the cartridges was around the same time Det. Boyd "found" the remaining five unfired rounds in Oswald's pants pocket on the way to the 4:05 line up. This "discovery" was made after Oswald had been thoroughly searched twice by Det. Bentley and again by Off. Walker.
Again, the marking of the six rounds and the "discovery of another five rounds in Oswald's pocket" was 30 minutes after the 11 unfired rounds recovered from Tippit were in the building.
Could those 11 Tippit cartridges have been the source of the 11 cartridges attributed to Oswald ?
The number and type of cartridges is right. The timing is right.
And there is a problem with officers who handled the evidence never being called to testify.
The fact that Bentley, Doughty, Davenport, Bardin and Baker were never called to testify regarding the search, the number and the possession of the unfired rounds leaves wide open the door that the evidence was planted by the Dallas Police.
Five officers who handled evidence who were never called.
One is an oversight, not five.
But there's more to indicate a police source to these cartridges.
The corrosion of the casing on the cartridges indicates that they had been in a gunbelt or a bullet slide for a long time.
The six cartridges "removed from the revolver" ( CE 145, CE 518 ) had the same corrosion on them as the five "found" in Oswald's pocket (CE 592). Even in the Commission's black-and-white photos, the corrosion is detectable (lighter grey).
Having had the experience with these things, I've always suspected that the source of these cartridges was a police source.
Then there's the question of how Oswald, who had little experience with handguns, would have known that the .38 revolver he ordered had been rechambered and could only fire .38 special ammunition.
I know this will cause those on the "Oswald-did-it" side some angst, but one thing I'm sure of, the evidence indicates that:
The six unfired rounds that were "in the revolver" and five that were "found" in Oswald's pants pocket were the same 11 cartridges that came from the personal effects recovered from J.D. Tippit.
Of that I have no doubt. Too many coincidences and too many witnesses ignored.