Post by Rob Caprio on Oct 31, 2022 20:31:16 GMT -5
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The Church Committee (CC) looked into a number of issues during their time together in 1975 and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) was one of them.
They focused on the intelligence agencies and how they performed in the “investigation” of the assassination. One topic that arose was a supposed note that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) left at the Dallas FBI office weeks before the assassination. This was not known about until 1975 when a Dallas newsman met with J. Gordon Shanklin who had been the former Special Agent-in-Charge for Dallas at the time of the assassination. The newsman informed Shanklin that an “unidentified source” had told him about LHO’s visit to the FBI office and his subsequent leaving of the threatening note for Special Agent James Hosty.
The newsman “stated that neither Oswald’s visit, nor the note, were reported to FBI Headquarters officials.” (Book V, Appendix B, p. 95) Shanklin referred him to Deputy Associate Director James Adams at FBI Headquarters. This led to a meeting on July 7, 1975, with Adams and Director Kelley in Washington, D.C. Director Kelley ordered an internal investigation into the matter following this meeting.
The FBI files were bereft of any information on this topic, but this should not be a surprise. After interviewing FBI people who had served in the Dallas field office in 1963 they were able to determine the following.
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(1) Lee Harvey Oswald did visit the office some two to three weeks prior to the assassination;
(2) Oswald asked to see SA James Hosty, and upon being informed that he was not in, left a note for Hosty; and
(3) the note was destroyed after the assassination.
The evidence developed by the Bureau contained sharp conflicts. The investigation failed to establish:
(1) whether the note was threatening in nature; and
(2) at whose instruction the note was destroyed. (Ibid.; Memo from FBI Director to the Attorney General 7/29/75)
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This confirms that LHO did visit the Dallas FBI office and did leave a note for Special Agent James Hosty when he was informed that he was not in. Why was this hidden for so long if the note was a threatening type as claimed? Wouldn’t this have supported the Warren Commission’s claim that LHO was violent? It sure would. So, the obvious conclusion to be reached was the note wasn’t a threatening type.
Further confirmation of this comes from the fact that it would be illegal to threaten either a FBI agent or the FBI in general, so why was LHO never arrested for this IF he did it? Moreover, why was Hosty never arrested for failure to report a crime (i.e. threatening to blow up the FBI office) and for destroying evidence of said crime?
How do we know it might be threatening? Because the note was in an unsealed envelope and the receptionist, Nancy Lee Fenner, claimed that she opened it and read it.
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Let this be a warning. I will blow up the FBI and the Dallas Police Department if you don’t stop bothering my wife.
Signed—Lee Harvey Oswald (Ibid., p. 96)
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This is an obvious threat to both the FBI and the Dallas Police Department (DPD) and we are to believe that LHO was not arrested? If he was angry about Hosty bothering his wife, why did he include the DPD in his threat? Were they bothering Marina too? Furthermore, who threatens to blow up buildings over such a minor issue?
In my opinion, this letter was designed to make LHO appear violent but after the assassination it backfired on the conspirators as questions would have been asked about why LHO was not arrested or at least put under surveillance. If he was under surveillance he could never bring a gun to work (which he didn’t anyway) and shoot at JFK (which he didn’t do anyway) so this is why this prop had to disappear.
Once the note was given to Hosty it magically changed as Hosty remembered what it said quite differently.
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If you have anything you want to learn about me, come talk to me directly. If you don’t cease bothering my wife, I will take appropriate action and report this to proper authorities. (Ibid.)
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This sounds more realistic, but did Hosty change what it said to avoid questions and trouble? We have to think so because both Shanklin and others that spoke with Fenner said that the note contained a threat. Why would she lie if it didn’t? Keep in mind that she had worked with the FBI since 1942, so she a lot to lose by lying (i.e. job, pension, reputation, etc…)
Hosty said that he put the note in his workbox and it stayed there until the assassination. After attending an interview with LHO at DPD headquarters he returned to the FBI office where he attended a meeting with his supervisor and Shanklin. He was asked to explain the contents of the note by one of them (this confirms that Shanklin saw the note). According to Hosty, Shanklin ordered him to prepare a memorandum detailing the note and his conversations with Marina Oswald and Ruth Paine. He said that he did so and delivered it to Shanklin on the evening of November 22, 1963. (Ibid.)
Hosty said when LHO was killed he was ordered to destroy the note and the memorandum by Shanklin, but Shanklin denied ever issuing such an order. In fact, Shanklin denied any knowledge of the note until July 1975. This turned out to be incorrect as William Sullivan, Assistant Director at the time of the assassination, said that he discussed the LHO case many times with Shanklin; and that Shanklin told him that “he had an internal problem involving one of his Agents who had received a threatening message from Oswald because the Agent was investigating Oswald.” (Ibid., p. 97)
This would indicate that Shanklin was not truthful and that the note was threatening which means Hosty lied. He had to as there is no explanation for why he, his supervisor or Shanklin never reported this threat and either had LHO arrested or put under surveillance.
The note was one frame attempt too far as it eventually came back to bite the conspirators. I have done something on this topic in my “Statements That Sink The WC’s Conclusions” that goes into much more detail and it is apparent that it wasn’t LHO based on the description of the man who left the note.
For more detail on this topic please see this:
jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1610/statements-sink-wcs-conclusions-470
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The Church Committee (CC) looked into a number of issues during their time together in 1975 and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) was one of them.
They focused on the intelligence agencies and how they performed in the “investigation” of the assassination. One topic that arose was a supposed note that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) left at the Dallas FBI office weeks before the assassination. This was not known about until 1975 when a Dallas newsman met with J. Gordon Shanklin who had been the former Special Agent-in-Charge for Dallas at the time of the assassination. The newsman informed Shanklin that an “unidentified source” had told him about LHO’s visit to the FBI office and his subsequent leaving of the threatening note for Special Agent James Hosty.
The newsman “stated that neither Oswald’s visit, nor the note, were reported to FBI Headquarters officials.” (Book V, Appendix B, p. 95) Shanklin referred him to Deputy Associate Director James Adams at FBI Headquarters. This led to a meeting on July 7, 1975, with Adams and Director Kelley in Washington, D.C. Director Kelley ordered an internal investigation into the matter following this meeting.
The FBI files were bereft of any information on this topic, but this should not be a surprise. After interviewing FBI people who had served in the Dallas field office in 1963 they were able to determine the following.
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(1) Lee Harvey Oswald did visit the office some two to three weeks prior to the assassination;
(2) Oswald asked to see SA James Hosty, and upon being informed that he was not in, left a note for Hosty; and
(3) the note was destroyed after the assassination.
The evidence developed by the Bureau contained sharp conflicts. The investigation failed to establish:
(1) whether the note was threatening in nature; and
(2) at whose instruction the note was destroyed. (Ibid.; Memo from FBI Director to the Attorney General 7/29/75)
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1161#relPageId=101
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This confirms that LHO did visit the Dallas FBI office and did leave a note for Special Agent James Hosty when he was informed that he was not in. Why was this hidden for so long if the note was a threatening type as claimed? Wouldn’t this have supported the Warren Commission’s claim that LHO was violent? It sure would. So, the obvious conclusion to be reached was the note wasn’t a threatening type.
Further confirmation of this comes from the fact that it would be illegal to threaten either a FBI agent or the FBI in general, so why was LHO never arrested for this IF he did it? Moreover, why was Hosty never arrested for failure to report a crime (i.e. threatening to blow up the FBI office) and for destroying evidence of said crime?
How do we know it might be threatening? Because the note was in an unsealed envelope and the receptionist, Nancy Lee Fenner, claimed that she opened it and read it.
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Let this be a warning. I will blow up the FBI and the Dallas Police Department if you don’t stop bothering my wife.
Signed—Lee Harvey Oswald (Ibid., p. 96)
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1161#relPageId=102
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This is an obvious threat to both the FBI and the Dallas Police Department (DPD) and we are to believe that LHO was not arrested? If he was angry about Hosty bothering his wife, why did he include the DPD in his threat? Were they bothering Marina too? Furthermore, who threatens to blow up buildings over such a minor issue?
In my opinion, this letter was designed to make LHO appear violent but after the assassination it backfired on the conspirators as questions would have been asked about why LHO was not arrested or at least put under surveillance. If he was under surveillance he could never bring a gun to work (which he didn’t anyway) and shoot at JFK (which he didn’t do anyway) so this is why this prop had to disappear.
Once the note was given to Hosty it magically changed as Hosty remembered what it said quite differently.
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If you have anything you want to learn about me, come talk to me directly. If you don’t cease bothering my wife, I will take appropriate action and report this to proper authorities. (Ibid.)
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This sounds more realistic, but did Hosty change what it said to avoid questions and trouble? We have to think so because both Shanklin and others that spoke with Fenner said that the note contained a threat. Why would she lie if it didn’t? Keep in mind that she had worked with the FBI since 1942, so she a lot to lose by lying (i.e. job, pension, reputation, etc…)
Hosty said that he put the note in his workbox and it stayed there until the assassination. After attending an interview with LHO at DPD headquarters he returned to the FBI office where he attended a meeting with his supervisor and Shanklin. He was asked to explain the contents of the note by one of them (this confirms that Shanklin saw the note). According to Hosty, Shanklin ordered him to prepare a memorandum detailing the note and his conversations with Marina Oswald and Ruth Paine. He said that he did so and delivered it to Shanklin on the evening of November 22, 1963. (Ibid.)
Hosty said when LHO was killed he was ordered to destroy the note and the memorandum by Shanklin, but Shanklin denied ever issuing such an order. In fact, Shanklin denied any knowledge of the note until July 1975. This turned out to be incorrect as William Sullivan, Assistant Director at the time of the assassination, said that he discussed the LHO case many times with Shanklin; and that Shanklin told him that “he had an internal problem involving one of his Agents who had received a threatening message from Oswald because the Agent was investigating Oswald.” (Ibid., p. 97)
This would indicate that Shanklin was not truthful and that the note was threatening which means Hosty lied. He had to as there is no explanation for why he, his supervisor or Shanklin never reported this threat and either had LHO arrested or put under surveillance.
The note was one frame attempt too far as it eventually came back to bite the conspirators. I have done something on this topic in my “Statements That Sink The WC’s Conclusions” that goes into much more detail and it is apparent that it wasn’t LHO based on the description of the man who left the note.
For more detail on this topic please see this:
jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1610/statements-sink-wcs-conclusions-470