Post by Gil Jesus on Sept 9, 2023 5:45:07 GMT -5
A Questionable Discovery
According to the Warren Commission's Report, two photographs (CE 133-A & B) and one negative (CE 133-B) were found in the Paine garage during the Saturday search. (WCR, pg. 592)
But Dallas Police detective Gus Rose testified that police found two photos and two negatives. He testified that he found one photo and two negatives and the other photograph was found by Irving detective John McCabe. (7 H 231)
What happened to the second negative? No one knows.
This discrepancy was not the only one connected with the discovery of the photographs. Detective McCabe told the FBI that he found an envelope which contained photographs, one of which was, "Lee Harvey Oswald standing with a rifle in his hand and a pistol visible on Oswald's right hip."
Detective Stovall makes no mention of any envelope in his testimony, testifying only that the photographs were "in a cardboard box". (7 H 194)
The Commission could have cleared this up by asking Detective Rose where he found the photographs, but it failed to do so.
In fact, the Commission failed to call McCabe as a witness to give testimony regarding the discovery of these photos. It also failed to show the photos currently in evidence to Dets. Rose and Stovall for identification purposes.
In other words, the Commission never firmly established that the photos currently in evidence were found in the Paine garage.
And one would think it to be imperative for them to do so because the photos and negatives were never specifically listed on inventory sheets of Oswald's possessions recovered from the Paine garage on Saturday. (Stovall Exhibit B)
Police claimed that they were listed under, "miscellaneous photographs and maps". (7 H 194) You have a suspect for two separate homicides under arrest and you find two photographs and negatives of him with what appears to be the alleged murder weapons, and you list those photos in your evidence list under "miscellaneous"?
If those photographs were found in the garage on Saturday, one would think that they would be the first item noted on the list. After all, this was the most significant find of the Saturday search. And they're not listed in detail? In fact, there are items the Dallas Police claimed they found during this search that are not on the evidence list.
Like the blank Selective Service cards, "which appeared to be the same that he had on him at the time, on the 22nd of November, that had the name 'A.Hidell' in on it."
And the, "cut out portion of a magazine advertisement from Kline (sic) Department Store in Chicago, showing an advertisement of the murder weapon."
Neither of these items, as significant as they would seem, were listed by police among the items found during the Saturday search.
Why are these crucial pieces of evidence missing from the evidence list? Were they or were they not among the items found during the Saturday search?
Was the Saturday search an opportunity for the police to, "do a more thorough search" as they claimed, or one to plant evidence in the garage?
Could the police have had these items in their possession BEFORE they arrived on Saturday?
The answer may come from witnesses who reported that at least one photo, CE 133-A, was in the hands of police BEFORE the Paine search on Saturday afternoon.
Evidence Police Had CE 133-A Before It Was "Discovered"
According to official records, the photos were found at 3:20 pm on the afternoon of Saturday, November 23rd.
But there is corroborating evidence that the Dallas Police were in possession of the photos long before that, calling into question their very authenticity.
In 1970, Dallas news reporter Jim Marrs was looking into the backyard photographs when he interviewed Robert and Patricia Hester. The Hesters worked at the National Photo Lab in Dallas. They said they were very busy processing photographic material for both the FBI and the Secret Service the night of the assassination.
Robert Hester, who was called from home on November 22, 1963, to help process assassination-related photographs for the FBI and the Dallas police at National Photo, said he saw an FBI agent with a color transparency of one of the pictures and that one of the backyard photographs showed no figure in the picture, similar to this Jack White photograph.
Hester's claim was corroborated by his wife, Patricia, who also helped process film on the day of the assassination. (Jim Marrs, Crossfire, p. 431, 2013 edition)
This was the night before the photographs were supposed to have been found in the first place.
The Hesters' allegation that the photos were in the hands of police before 3:20 pm Saturday, was corroborated by Jerry O'Leary of the Washington Evening Star, who told the FBI that he saw Commission Exhibit 133-A (the "LIFE" photo) in the hands of police either Friday evening or Saturday morning.
Further corroboration comes from Michael Paine, who testified that, "on the first night of the assassination" he was shown CE 133-A and asked by Capt. Fritz to identify the location where the picture was taken.
Finally, no less than Capt. J. Will Fritz himself admitted that police had the photos prior to their official discovery at 3:20 pm Saturday afternoon.
How could Fritz question Oswald at 12:35 pm on Saturday about where the photos of him with the rifle were taken, when the pictures had not yet officially been found? Because the police had the photos as early as Friday evening.
This evidence, corroborated by multiple witnesses, destroys the official narrative that the photographs were found during a second search of the Paine residence on the afternoon of Saturday, November 23rd.
And it brings to mind a couple of questions:
1.) Where did these photographs come from?
2.) Were these photographs composites or a true representation of Oswald and the weapons he used?
A closer look at Commission Exhibit 133-A reveals evidence never addressed by the "experts" of either the Warren Commission or the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Coming in Part III: The Revelations of Commission Exhibit 133-A
According to the Warren Commission's Report, two photographs (CE 133-A & B) and one negative (CE 133-B) were found in the Paine garage during the Saturday search. (WCR, pg. 592)
But Dallas Police detective Gus Rose testified that police found two photos and two negatives. He testified that he found one photo and two negatives and the other photograph was found by Irving detective John McCabe. (7 H 231)
What happened to the second negative? No one knows.
This discrepancy was not the only one connected with the discovery of the photographs. Detective McCabe told the FBI that he found an envelope which contained photographs, one of which was, "Lee Harvey Oswald standing with a rifle in his hand and a pistol visible on Oswald's right hip."
Detective Stovall makes no mention of any envelope in his testimony, testifying only that the photographs were "in a cardboard box". (7 H 194)
The Commission could have cleared this up by asking Detective Rose where he found the photographs, but it failed to do so.
In fact, the Commission failed to call McCabe as a witness to give testimony regarding the discovery of these photos. It also failed to show the photos currently in evidence to Dets. Rose and Stovall for identification purposes.
In other words, the Commission never firmly established that the photos currently in evidence were found in the Paine garage.
And one would think it to be imperative for them to do so because the photos and negatives were never specifically listed on inventory sheets of Oswald's possessions recovered from the Paine garage on Saturday. (Stovall Exhibit B)
Police claimed that they were listed under, "miscellaneous photographs and maps". (7 H 194) You have a suspect for two separate homicides under arrest and you find two photographs and negatives of him with what appears to be the alleged murder weapons, and you list those photos in your evidence list under "miscellaneous"?
If those photographs were found in the garage on Saturday, one would think that they would be the first item noted on the list. After all, this was the most significant find of the Saturday search. And they're not listed in detail? In fact, there are items the Dallas Police claimed they found during this search that are not on the evidence list.
Like the blank Selective Service cards, "which appeared to be the same that he had on him at the time, on the 22nd of November, that had the name 'A.Hidell' in on it."
And the, "cut out portion of a magazine advertisement from Kline (sic) Department Store in Chicago, showing an advertisement of the murder weapon."
Why are these crucial pieces of evidence missing from the evidence list? Were they or were they not among the items found during the Saturday search?
Was the Saturday search an opportunity for the police to, "do a more thorough search" as they claimed, or one to plant evidence in the garage?
Could the police have had these items in their possession BEFORE they arrived on Saturday?
The answer may come from witnesses who reported that at least one photo, CE 133-A, was in the hands of police BEFORE the Paine search on Saturday afternoon.
Evidence Police Had CE 133-A Before It Was "Discovered"
According to official records, the photos were found at 3:20 pm on the afternoon of Saturday, November 23rd.
But there is corroborating evidence that the Dallas Police were in possession of the photos long before that, calling into question their very authenticity.
In 1970, Dallas news reporter Jim Marrs was looking into the backyard photographs when he interviewed Robert and Patricia Hester. The Hesters worked at the National Photo Lab in Dallas. They said they were very busy processing photographic material for both the FBI and the Secret Service the night of the assassination.
Robert Hester, who was called from home on November 22, 1963, to help process assassination-related photographs for the FBI and the Dallas police at National Photo, said he saw an FBI agent with a color transparency of one of the pictures and that one of the backyard photographs showed no figure in the picture, similar to this Jack White photograph.
Hester's claim was corroborated by his wife, Patricia, who also helped process film on the day of the assassination. (Jim Marrs, Crossfire, p. 431, 2013 edition)
This was the night before the photographs were supposed to have been found in the first place.
The Hesters' allegation that the photos were in the hands of police before 3:20 pm Saturday, was corroborated by Jerry O'Leary of the Washington Evening Star, who told the FBI that he saw Commission Exhibit 133-A (the "LIFE" photo) in the hands of police either Friday evening or Saturday morning.
Further corroboration comes from Michael Paine, who testified that, "on the first night of the assassination" he was shown CE 133-A and asked by Capt. Fritz to identify the location where the picture was taken.
Finally, no less than Capt. J. Will Fritz himself admitted that police had the photos prior to their official discovery at 3:20 pm Saturday afternoon.
How could Fritz question Oswald at 12:35 pm on Saturday about where the photos of him with the rifle were taken, when the pictures had not yet officially been found? Because the police had the photos as early as Friday evening.
This evidence, corroborated by multiple witnesses, destroys the official narrative that the photographs were found during a second search of the Paine residence on the afternoon of Saturday, November 23rd.
And it brings to mind a couple of questions:
1.) Where did these photographs come from?
2.) Were these photographs composites or a true representation of Oswald and the weapons he used?
A closer look at Commission Exhibit 133-A reveals evidence never addressed by the "experts" of either the Warren Commission or the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Coming in Part III: The Revelations of Commission Exhibit 133-A