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In 1975 the Church Committee (CC) was formed following some bombshells that had come out of the previous Rockefeller Commission regarding the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) the previous year. The CC was tasked with looking deeper into the role and activities of the American intelligence agencies over the previous several decades. A small part of this work would include the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) and this work was important as it would help to lead to the formation of the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) that had the time to look into the assassination of the 35th President more thoroughly.
A key witness that would be called by the CC was Secret Service (SS) Agent Elmer Moore. He had been involved in the "investigation" of the JFK assassination in 1963 and had a role in talking with the doctors who attended to JFK's body at Parkland Hospital (PH) following the shooting. Moore has remained under the radar for the most part in the JFK assassination research community. The only researcher that had any contact with him was a graduate student in Seattle by the name of Jim Gochenaur in 1971. He would be called by the CC to give testimony and according to Gochenaur he had also been called by the CC and was standing by in case Moore denied knowing him, but it seems this never occurred.
In addition to pressuring the doctors at PH, particularly Dr. Malcom Perry who had said on the day of the assassination that the wound in JFK's neck was one of entrance, to change their first day accounts and agree with the autopsy report he was also involved in interviewing Jack Ruby and witnesses at the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) Building. He would get the witnesses at the TSBD to say things they had not said before.
This post is only interested in the Dr. Perry aspect, however. Keep in mind one important fact too, the official autopsy report was NOT the one that was completed on November 23, 1963, as that one was burned on November 24, 1963, by Dr. James Humes following the death of Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO). The reason for this burning was never explained in a reasonable way as Humes claimed it was because the report had JFK's blood on it, but one would assume that could be a normal thing for an autopsy report. He should have had it retyped in the presence of official authorities (not that this would have helped in this case most likely) instead of burning it. This is destruction of evidence and a crime.
Mr. SPECTER - Are there any notes which you made at any time which are not included in this group of notes?
Commander HUMES - Yes, sir; there are.
Mr. SPECTER - And what do those consist of?
Commander HUMES - In the privacy of my own home, early in the morning of Sunday, November 24th, I made a draft of this report which I later revised, and of which this represents the revision. That draft I personally burned in the fireplace of my recreation room.
It is a good bet that the original autopsy report would have agreed with Dr. Perry's assessment and that is why it had to be gotten rid of as that did not match the cover story being put out by the media. Dr. Perry would change his statement after being threatened with losing his medical license and testified to the wound being either one of entrance or exit before the Warren Commission (WC). One can assume he got the other doctors to make similar changes to their statements as well. Moore would be rewarded by being assigned to protect Chief Justice Earl Warren who was receiving a lot of threats and hate mail. It seems many Americans did not accept the official proclamations from the beginning.
The first thing that Moore said that is interesting is his confirmation of LHO having FBI Agent James Hosty's personal information in his notebook. The page this was listed on was cut out before it was given to the WC by the FBI, but it seems the SS had the notebook first so this could not be tampered with like the document the FBI possessed. Here is what Moore said about this before the CC.
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Mr. Moore: ...It seems to me there was a discrepancy in some notebook or something. I got -- I believe it was a diary or notebook that Oswald carried, and I think it contained Hosty's name, the address of the Bureau, possibly a phone number, and I recall there was a license number. It turned out to be a Bureau car undercover. And I am aware that there were two -- well, I probably have to go back and say that, let's say that, let's say that the Secret Service acquired that book first, and I don't know where, but I think we had it first, and I think copies were made in Dallas, and one copy went to the Dallas police, one went to ourselves, and one went to the Bureau, and then subsequently the book itself was turned over to the Bureau. (Elmer Moore Church Committee testimony January 6, 1975, page 3.)
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The FBI tampered with evidence by hiding this information from the WC as they knew it did not look good for LHO to have this information in his notebook if he was just a loner as claimed. It is even worse when we learn that this car was an undercover type as I had not heard that before. There is no reasonable explanation for LHO to have this information on Hosty IF he was just a loner as the WC claimed. Moore knew this because he was tasked by Chief Justice Earl Warren to trace the license number with the DMV and it came back as a government car with cover plates. (Ibid., p. 4)
Moore is asked about the Chicago attempt on JFK and the alleged possible assassin named Thomas Arthur Vallee and he said that he had no firsthand knowledge since the Chicago SS office handled that. The CC man (Mr. Wallach) then lays out a blockbuster statement that I had never heard before and it seems Moore had not either.
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Mr. Wallach. So I take it you would have no knowledge as to whether or not there was a possibility or the fact that the car Valley [sic] was driving was registered to Oswald or to someone else named Oswald?
Mr. Moore. I have never heard that before.
Mr. Wallach. Were you at all involved --
Mr. Moore. Now, I say I have never heard it before, to the best of my recollection, but I'm almost certain I would have probably remembered that, because I don't think Oswald ever had a car registered to him. (Ibid., p. 5)
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Wow. Was Vallee really driving a car registered to LHO? Or an Oswald of any kind? This would be groundbreaking if it is true, but I have never heard of this so probably nothing has been done with it since 1975. This would show a connection between these two men who were both being setup to be patsies for JFK's death.
Moore had no knowledge of the attempts on Cuban Premier Fidel Castro by the CIA according to his testimony. (Ibid., p. 7) Moore denied any knowledge of President Lyndon Johnson (LBJ) trying to get the WC to reach a certain conclusion. (Ibid., p. 18) Another statement that jumps out and shows that perhaps Marina Oswald was the real source of the surveillance is this question by the CC.
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Mr. Wallach. Are you aware of the wiretaps that were placed on Marina Oswald?
Mr. Moore. First I ever heard of them. Were they? I am not aware of them, no. Were they, wiretaps?
Mr. Wallach. Yes, there were. (Ibid., p. 22)
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This is another bombshell as I again have never heard this before. Why were they wiretapping Marina Oswald? What did they think she was doing? Did they suspect her of being a Soviet spy? That would be the best bet as to why they were monitoring her. According to Gochenaur, Moore was also trying to "find the money" that was being sent to Marina in some kind of trust fund. Moore told Gochenaur that the SS tried to trace the money but couldn't find any. (ARRB, Moore WPD., p. 2) If this is true, where was Marina getting money from and who was sending it?
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Moore said that the WC looked into the possibility of a foreign conspiracy being involved, but they came to the conclusion that there wasn't one because they couldn't find any evidence of one. (Ibid., p. 28) Feel free to laugh if you want to. It isn't hard to find no evidence of something when you never look for it. They had no interest in anything beyond LHO did it all alone.
We finally get to the important topic of Moore going to PH and talking with Dr. Perry. Look at this interesting comment by him and the answer by the lawyer for the CC. This topic was spurred by Moore's dislike of Mark Lane as he went off on him and mentioned that making someone change their testimony is a felony.
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Mr. Wallach. You said a felony on changed testimony.
Mr. Moore. To induce any witness to change his testimony, of course that's a felony.
Mr. Wallach. Well, at the time you went to Dallas Oswald was dead, was he not?
Mr. Moore. Certainly.
Mr. Wallach. And there was going to be no trial.
Mr. Moore. Well--
Mr. Wallach. Of Oswald.
Mr. Moore. Of Oswald, no.
Mr. Wallach. So there wouldn't have been any testimony by the doctors. They just sort of made statements, is that correct?
Mr. Moore. Well, there would be testimony before our Commission, testimony within the inquiry.
Mr. Wallach. You knew on November 29th, for example, that --
Mr. Moore. No, I wouldn't say that. (Ibid., pp. 34-35)
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This statement by the CC lawyer makes it clear why the SS, FBI and the Dallas Police Department (DPD) were so bold in bullying witnesses and changing their testimony as there was NOT going to be a trial. Ditto tampering with the evidence in many cases as there was no fear of having to explain all of this to a judge. These are all felonies but the authorities had no fear in doing this stuff and this is why. Conversely, this shows what a farce the WC really was as these agencies did things that would have had the case tossed out of court in a minute.
Moore explains why he went to PH to talk with Dr. Perry next.
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Mr. Moore. You want to know why I went there?
Senator Schweiker. Yeah. and what happened.
Mr. Moore. I was given a copy of the Bethesda autopsy [the second version -- RC], a mimeographed copy...it was assigned to attempt to determine the trajectory of the bullets, the missiles, from the wounds, and the report I referred to covers this...the conclusion I came to, after studying the Zapruder film, talking to the doctor, and so on, that this could not be determined, the exact trajectory precisely. (Ibid., pp. 35-36)
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This is false. The Zapruder film shows JFK reacting to the shot to the throat when it was impossible for a shot to have come from behind due to the tree blocking the sight of anyone in the alleged SE 6th floor window. Even the WC admitted this. This means the throat shot had to either come from the front or from another shooter in a different location in the back of the limousine. Either option means there was a conspiracy.
Clearly, Moore's job was to change the truth. He admitted as much to Jim Gochenaur despite denying it later. He told Gochenaur that if he didn't get Perry to change his testimony he would have been "sacked." Let's resume with Moore's testimony regarding Dr. Perry.
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Senator Schweiker. You went to the doctor --
Mr. Moore. ...When I received the autopsy reports, there were medical terms and measurements that I was not familiar with one...the description of the neck strap wound, the first bullet in the President's neck...The logical thing I thought at the time was to go out to talk to these people and also let them see for the first time the results of the autopsy [the suspect second version -- RC] because they had not had the opportunity to actually see the fatal wound at all. They had never turned the body over at Parkland. They were engaged in respiratory and circulatory, you know, the trauma actions rather than examining the wounds.
So I talked to Dr. Perry...He was very disturbed, as he had been quoted, where he had performed the tracheotomy through the exit wound, which is right over the Adam's apple...He was quite disturbed that he had been quoted in the press as having said that [it] is an entrance wound, and he has denied that consistently that he ever said that, that what he said was that there was a wound there and it could have been an entrance or exit. He didn't know. (Ibid., pp. 37-38)
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Moore is lying as Dr. Perry refused to retract his statement that the wound was one of exit for quite some time. Furthermore, he was an experienced doctor when it came to wounds as he saw them hundreds of times in a year at PH. It is ludicrous to think a doctor couldn't tell an entrance wound from an exit wound. What good would he be to a person who had been shot if he couldn't even tell this basic thing?
We then see the same lie all WC defenders push -- that the PH doctors had no time to examine the wounds as they were trying to save his life. This is false by the way as I have shown numerous statements by doctors and nurses who were trying to treat his wounds in order to deal with the damage. How do you treat someone without looking at their wounds? This makes absolutely no sense, but then again, everything the WC said makes no sense. Moore then messed up as he said that the doctors never "turned the body over" but this is only noteworthy (it isn't true anyway) IF we were discussing the head wound. We aren't. Moore was talking about the throat wound. The body didn't need to be turned over to see that one. Also, the nurses were likely to turn the patient over anyway. Moore was totally lying here.
Showing them the supposed autopsy report was a waste of time too as this was the bogus one made AFTER LHO was killed. It was a cover story and nothing more.
When asked why he was visiting Dr. Perry, Moore said that he was "...determining where this wound was on the body and what direction it went." (Ibid., p. 39) But didn't he just testify that Dr. Perry couldn't tell if a wound was one of entrance or exit? I think he did. So, why was he bothering to see Dr. Perry then? To make him change his statement of course. Liars like Moore always slip up eventually. There was no reason to talk privately with a doctor about what direction a wound originated from IF you say the doctor wasn't capable of determining things like that. Again, this makes no sense.
Moore denied being harsh on Dr. Perry as he said he was just there to help. (Ibid., p. 41) Help? Was Moore in the trauma room on November 22, 1963? I don't think so. How could he "help" then?
Moore denied ever talking with anyone about Marina having a trust fund. (Ibid., p. 51) He did say that he was aware "that there were some monies that were supposedly protected for her." (Ibid., p. 54) When Gochenaur is brought up Moore goes ballistic and calls him a liar. We have just seen Moore was willing to lie so why should we believe him? What benefit was there to Gochenaur to make all of this up? Who would want a SS agent or the SS in whole angry with them for no reason? He admitted that he spoke with him in 1971 on the phone about a photograph of the grassy knoll (GK) and that he was a rabid conspiracy person like Mark Lane. (Ibid., p. 59) Gochenaur said he just called to ask a few questions about it and Moore said things about Lane and then confirmed what Lane had said was true. How funny is that?
Moore then said that people needed to read the WC Report (WCR) as most haven't, that is why they believe there was a conspiracy. LOL. Nothing will make you believe in a conspiracy more than the WCR! It is full of lies and baseless claims. The evidence found in the twenty-six volumes do NOT support the WCR in the least. Moore said he spent two hours with Gochenaur to try and "turn him around." Hilarious. Moore was the one pushing a lie. (Ibid., p. 61) Gochenaur had seen shadows in the bushes on the GK and this spot had become known as the "Black Dog Man" as some believe it was a shooter. Needless to say, Moore would never admit this publicly.
The CC was going to go into detail about what Gochenaur had said and get Moore's response, but this portion is missing. Why? Moore also wrote a report on December 3, 1963, that is missing. I have checked every online source and cannot find it. What was in that report?
The bottom line is Moore would be retiring soon and didn't want to lose his pension and retirement benefits so he would say anything to keep them. According to Gochenaur he would admit remorse for treating Dr. Perry the way he did in June 1977 after he had retired. Moore further told Gochenaur, according to him, “I did everything I was told, we all did everything we were told, or we'd get our heads cut off.” This would show the pressure Moore was under and he was no JFK fan anyway as Gochenaur said he called JFK a "traitor" for being soft on Communism.
Moore was involved in interviewing witnesses at the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) and discussions with Jack Ruby. He is a key person in the JFK assassination story, and yet, most of the things he did are missing from the official record except for his notes involving Ruby (Commission Exhibit 2081). Why?
What do you think of Elmer Moore?
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In 1975 the Church Committee (CC) was formed following some bombshells that had come out of the previous Rockefeller Commission regarding the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) the previous year. The CC was tasked with looking deeper into the role and activities of the American intelligence agencies over the previous several decades. A small part of this work would include the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) and this work was important as it would help to lead to the formation of the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) that had the time to look into the assassination of the 35th President more thoroughly.
A key witness that would be called by the CC was Secret Service (SS) Agent Elmer Moore. He had been involved in the "investigation" of the JFK assassination in 1963 and had a role in talking with the doctors who attended to JFK's body at Parkland Hospital (PH) following the shooting. Moore has remained under the radar for the most part in the JFK assassination research community. The only researcher that had any contact with him was a graduate student in Seattle by the name of Jim Gochenaur in 1971. He would be called by the CC to give testimony and according to Gochenaur he had also been called by the CC and was standing by in case Moore denied knowing him, but it seems this never occurred.
In addition to pressuring the doctors at PH, particularly Dr. Malcom Perry who had said on the day of the assassination that the wound in JFK's neck was one of entrance, to change their first day accounts and agree with the autopsy report he was also involved in interviewing Jack Ruby and witnesses at the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) Building. He would get the witnesses at the TSBD to say things they had not said before.
This post is only interested in the Dr. Perry aspect, however. Keep in mind one important fact too, the official autopsy report was NOT the one that was completed on November 23, 1963, as that one was burned on November 24, 1963, by Dr. James Humes following the death of Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO). The reason for this burning was never explained in a reasonable way as Humes claimed it was because the report had JFK's blood on it, but one would assume that could be a normal thing for an autopsy report. He should have had it retyped in the presence of official authorities (not that this would have helped in this case most likely) instead of burning it. This is destruction of evidence and a crime.
Mr. SPECTER - Are there any notes which you made at any time which are not included in this group of notes?
Commander HUMES - Yes, sir; there are.
Mr. SPECTER - And what do those consist of?
Commander HUMES - In the privacy of my own home, early in the morning of Sunday, November 24th, I made a draft of this report which I later revised, and of which this represents the revision. That draft I personally burned in the fireplace of my recreation room.
It is a good bet that the original autopsy report would have agreed with Dr. Perry's assessment and that is why it had to be gotten rid of as that did not match the cover story being put out by the media. Dr. Perry would change his statement after being threatened with losing his medical license and testified to the wound being either one of entrance or exit before the Warren Commission (WC). One can assume he got the other doctors to make similar changes to their statements as well. Moore would be rewarded by being assigned to protect Chief Justice Earl Warren who was receiving a lot of threats and hate mail. It seems many Americans did not accept the official proclamations from the beginning.
The first thing that Moore said that is interesting is his confirmation of LHO having FBI Agent James Hosty's personal information in his notebook. The page this was listed on was cut out before it was given to the WC by the FBI, but it seems the SS had the notebook first so this could not be tampered with like the document the FBI possessed. Here is what Moore said about this before the CC.
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Mr. Moore: ...It seems to me there was a discrepancy in some notebook or something. I got -- I believe it was a diary or notebook that Oswald carried, and I think it contained Hosty's name, the address of the Bureau, possibly a phone number, and I recall there was a license number. It turned out to be a Bureau car undercover. And I am aware that there were two -- well, I probably have to go back and say that, let's say that, let's say that the Secret Service acquired that book first, and I don't know where, but I think we had it first, and I think copies were made in Dallas, and one copy went to the Dallas police, one went to ourselves, and one went to the Bureau, and then subsequently the book itself was turned over to the Bureau. (Elmer Moore Church Committee testimony January 6, 1975, page 3.)
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The FBI tampered with evidence by hiding this information from the WC as they knew it did not look good for LHO to have this information in his notebook if he was just a loner as claimed. It is even worse when we learn that this car was an undercover type as I had not heard that before. There is no reasonable explanation for LHO to have this information on Hosty IF he was just a loner as the WC claimed. Moore knew this because he was tasked by Chief Justice Earl Warren to trace the license number with the DMV and it came back as a government car with cover plates. (Ibid., p. 4)
Moore is asked about the Chicago attempt on JFK and the alleged possible assassin named Thomas Arthur Vallee and he said that he had no firsthand knowledge since the Chicago SS office handled that. The CC man (Mr. Wallach) then lays out a blockbuster statement that I had never heard before and it seems Moore had not either.
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Mr. Wallach. So I take it you would have no knowledge as to whether or not there was a possibility or the fact that the car Valley [sic] was driving was registered to Oswald or to someone else named Oswald?
Mr. Moore. I have never heard that before.
Mr. Wallach. Were you at all involved --
Mr. Moore. Now, I say I have never heard it before, to the best of my recollection, but I'm almost certain I would have probably remembered that, because I don't think Oswald ever had a car registered to him. (Ibid., p. 5)
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Wow. Was Vallee really driving a car registered to LHO? Or an Oswald of any kind? This would be groundbreaking if it is true, but I have never heard of this so probably nothing has been done with it since 1975. This would show a connection between these two men who were both being setup to be patsies for JFK's death.
Moore had no knowledge of the attempts on Cuban Premier Fidel Castro by the CIA according to his testimony. (Ibid., p. 7) Moore denied any knowledge of President Lyndon Johnson (LBJ) trying to get the WC to reach a certain conclusion. (Ibid., p. 18) Another statement that jumps out and shows that perhaps Marina Oswald was the real source of the surveillance is this question by the CC.
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Mr. Wallach. Are you aware of the wiretaps that were placed on Marina Oswald?
Mr. Moore. First I ever heard of them. Were they? I am not aware of them, no. Were they, wiretaps?
Mr. Wallach. Yes, there were. (Ibid., p. 22)
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This is another bombshell as I again have never heard this before. Why were they wiretapping Marina Oswald? What did they think she was doing? Did they suspect her of being a Soviet spy? That would be the best bet as to why they were monitoring her. According to Gochenaur, Moore was also trying to "find the money" that was being sent to Marina in some kind of trust fund. Moore told Gochenaur that the SS tried to trace the money but couldn't find any. (ARRB, Moore WPD., p. 2) If this is true, where was Marina getting money from and who was sending it?
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Moore said that the WC looked into the possibility of a foreign conspiracy being involved, but they came to the conclusion that there wasn't one because they couldn't find any evidence of one. (Ibid., p. 28) Feel free to laugh if you want to. It isn't hard to find no evidence of something when you never look for it. They had no interest in anything beyond LHO did it all alone.
We finally get to the important topic of Moore going to PH and talking with Dr. Perry. Look at this interesting comment by him and the answer by the lawyer for the CC. This topic was spurred by Moore's dislike of Mark Lane as he went off on him and mentioned that making someone change their testimony is a felony.
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Mr. Wallach. You said a felony on changed testimony.
Mr. Moore. To induce any witness to change his testimony, of course that's a felony.
Mr. Wallach. Well, at the time you went to Dallas Oswald was dead, was he not?
Mr. Moore. Certainly.
Mr. Wallach. And there was going to be no trial.
Mr. Moore. Well--
Mr. Wallach. Of Oswald.
Mr. Moore. Of Oswald, no.
Mr. Wallach. So there wouldn't have been any testimony by the doctors. They just sort of made statements, is that correct?
Mr. Moore. Well, there would be testimony before our Commission, testimony within the inquiry.
Mr. Wallach. You knew on November 29th, for example, that --
Mr. Moore. No, I wouldn't say that. (Ibid., pp. 34-35)
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This statement by the CC lawyer makes it clear why the SS, FBI and the Dallas Police Department (DPD) were so bold in bullying witnesses and changing their testimony as there was NOT going to be a trial. Ditto tampering with the evidence in many cases as there was no fear of having to explain all of this to a judge. These are all felonies but the authorities had no fear in doing this stuff and this is why. Conversely, this shows what a farce the WC really was as these agencies did things that would have had the case tossed out of court in a minute.
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Mr. Moore. You want to know why I went there?
Senator Schweiker. Yeah. and what happened.
Mr. Moore. I was given a copy of the Bethesda autopsy [the second version -- RC], a mimeographed copy...it was assigned to attempt to determine the trajectory of the bullets, the missiles, from the wounds, and the report I referred to covers this...the conclusion I came to, after studying the Zapruder film, talking to the doctor, and so on, that this could not be determined, the exact trajectory precisely. (Ibid., pp. 35-36)
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This is false. The Zapruder film shows JFK reacting to the shot to the throat when it was impossible for a shot to have come from behind due to the tree blocking the sight of anyone in the alleged SE 6th floor window. Even the WC admitted this. This means the throat shot had to either come from the front or from another shooter in a different location in the back of the limousine. Either option means there was a conspiracy.
Clearly, Moore's job was to change the truth. He admitted as much to Jim Gochenaur despite denying it later. He told Gochenaur that if he didn't get Perry to change his testimony he would have been "sacked." Let's resume with Moore's testimony regarding Dr. Perry.
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Senator Schweiker. You went to the doctor --
Mr. Moore. ...When I received the autopsy reports, there were medical terms and measurements that I was not familiar with one...the description of the neck strap wound, the first bullet in the President's neck...The logical thing I thought at the time was to go out to talk to these people and also let them see for the first time the results of the autopsy [the suspect second version -- RC] because they had not had the opportunity to actually see the fatal wound at all. They had never turned the body over at Parkland. They were engaged in respiratory and circulatory, you know, the trauma actions rather than examining the wounds.
So I talked to Dr. Perry...He was very disturbed, as he had been quoted, where he had performed the tracheotomy through the exit wound, which is right over the Adam's apple...He was quite disturbed that he had been quoted in the press as having said that [it] is an entrance wound, and he has denied that consistently that he ever said that, that what he said was that there was a wound there and it could have been an entrance or exit. He didn't know. (Ibid., pp. 37-38)
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Moore is lying as Dr. Perry refused to retract his statement that the wound was one of exit for quite some time. Furthermore, he was an experienced doctor when it came to wounds as he saw them hundreds of times in a year at PH. It is ludicrous to think a doctor couldn't tell an entrance wound from an exit wound. What good would he be to a person who had been shot if he couldn't even tell this basic thing?
We then see the same lie all WC defenders push -- that the PH doctors had no time to examine the wounds as they were trying to save his life. This is false by the way as I have shown numerous statements by doctors and nurses who were trying to treat his wounds in order to deal with the damage. How do you treat someone without looking at their wounds? This makes absolutely no sense, but then again, everything the WC said makes no sense. Moore then messed up as he said that the doctors never "turned the body over" but this is only noteworthy (it isn't true anyway) IF we were discussing the head wound. We aren't. Moore was talking about the throat wound. The body didn't need to be turned over to see that one. Also, the nurses were likely to turn the patient over anyway. Moore was totally lying here.
Showing them the supposed autopsy report was a waste of time too as this was the bogus one made AFTER LHO was killed. It was a cover story and nothing more.
When asked why he was visiting Dr. Perry, Moore said that he was "...determining where this wound was on the body and what direction it went." (Ibid., p. 39) But didn't he just testify that Dr. Perry couldn't tell if a wound was one of entrance or exit? I think he did. So, why was he bothering to see Dr. Perry then? To make him change his statement of course. Liars like Moore always slip up eventually. There was no reason to talk privately with a doctor about what direction a wound originated from IF you say the doctor wasn't capable of determining things like that. Again, this makes no sense.
Moore denied being harsh on Dr. Perry as he said he was just there to help. (Ibid., p. 41) Help? Was Moore in the trauma room on November 22, 1963? I don't think so. How could he "help" then?
Moore denied ever talking with anyone about Marina having a trust fund. (Ibid., p. 51) He did say that he was aware "that there were some monies that were supposedly protected for her." (Ibid., p. 54) When Gochenaur is brought up Moore goes ballistic and calls him a liar. We have just seen Moore was willing to lie so why should we believe him? What benefit was there to Gochenaur to make all of this up? Who would want a SS agent or the SS in whole angry with them for no reason? He admitted that he spoke with him in 1971 on the phone about a photograph of the grassy knoll (GK) and that he was a rabid conspiracy person like Mark Lane. (Ibid., p. 59) Gochenaur said he just called to ask a few questions about it and Moore said things about Lane and then confirmed what Lane had said was true. How funny is that?
Moore then said that people needed to read the WC Report (WCR) as most haven't, that is why they believe there was a conspiracy. LOL. Nothing will make you believe in a conspiracy more than the WCR! It is full of lies and baseless claims. The evidence found in the twenty-six volumes do NOT support the WCR in the least. Moore said he spent two hours with Gochenaur to try and "turn him around." Hilarious. Moore was the one pushing a lie. (Ibid., p. 61) Gochenaur had seen shadows in the bushes on the GK and this spot had become known as the "Black Dog Man" as some believe it was a shooter. Needless to say, Moore would never admit this publicly.
The CC was going to go into detail about what Gochenaur had said and get Moore's response, but this portion is missing. Why? Moore also wrote a report on December 3, 1963, that is missing. I have checked every online source and cannot find it. What was in that report?
The bottom line is Moore would be retiring soon and didn't want to lose his pension and retirement benefits so he would say anything to keep them. According to Gochenaur he would admit remorse for treating Dr. Perry the way he did in June 1977 after he had retired. Moore further told Gochenaur, according to him, “I did everything I was told, we all did everything we were told, or we'd get our heads cut off.” This would show the pressure Moore was under and he was no JFK fan anyway as Gochenaur said he called JFK a "traitor" for being soft on Communism.
Moore was involved in interviewing witnesses at the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) and discussions with Jack Ruby. He is a key person in the JFK assassination story, and yet, most of the things he did are missing from the official record except for his notes involving Ruby (Commission Exhibit 2081). Why?
What do you think of Elmer Moore?