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The Warren Commission (WC) said that the Presidential limousine did not come to a stop or slow to a near stop during the shooting of President John F. Kennedy (JFK). They used the testimony of the driver of the limousine Secret Service (SS) Agent William Greer for the basis of this claim. This post will continue to look at the many witnesses who said the limousine either stopped or came to a near stop during the shooting sequence that disputed what Greer had said and the WC accepted.
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Mary Woodward worked for the Dallas Morning News as a reporter. She spoke about this in 1993 and said the following, “Instead of speeding up the car, the car came to a halt” after the first shot. She went on to say that after the next two shots the car then sped up and took off. [C-SPAN, 11/20/93, "Journalists Remember The Kennedy Assassination"; see also the 1/94 "Fourth Decade": article by Sheldon Inkol]
Her observation is lacking from the FBI statement she gave in December 1963 (Commission Exhibit (CE) 2084) for some reason, but what she told Mark Lane did get into the WC’s record when he testified.
Mr. LANE. …Miss Woodward continued, "Instead of speeding up the car, the car came to a halt. Things are a little bit hazy from this point but I don't believe anyone was hit with the first bullet. The President and Mrs. Kennedy turned and looked around as if they, too, didn't believe the noise was really coming from a gun. Then after a moment's pause there was another shot, and I saw the President slumping in the car." (II, p. 43)
Why was she never called by the WC after hearing this? Mrs. Ruth Smith would also observe the limousine slow down or perhaps stop after the first shot.
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She looked back towards President Kennedy’s car after the first shot and thinks he raised his hands to his face. The car seemed to slow or perhaps stop after the first shot and then just after the third shot a Secret Service man from the second car ran up to the rear of the President’s car and threw himself into the rear seat. The car immediately sped away. (Commission Document (CD) 206, p. 9)
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Our next witness was none other than Roy Truly, the superintendent of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) Building and he was standing out front at the time of the motorcade.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Then what did you see happen?
Mr. TRULY. I heard an explosion, which I thought was a toy cannon or a loud firecracker from west of the building. Nothing happened at this first explosion. Everything was frozen. And immediately after two more explosions, which I realized that I thought was a gun, a rifle of some kind.
The President's--I saw the President's car swerve to the left and stop somewheres down in this area. It is misleading here. And that is the last I saw of his car, because this crowd, when the third shot rang out--there was a large crowd all along this abutment here, this little wall, and there was some around us in front--they began screaming and falling to the ground. And the people in front of myself and Mr. Campbell surged back, either in terror or panic. They must have seen this thing. I became separated from Mr. Campbell. They just practically bore me back to the first step on the entrance of our building.
Mr. BELIN. When you saw the President's car seem to stop, how long did it appear to stop?
Mr. TRULY. It would be hard to say over a second or two or something like that. I didn't see I just saw it stop. I don't know. I didn't see it start up.
Roy Truly clearly says he saw the car pull to the left and stop. This was referenced by Dallas Police Department (DPD) Officer Marrion Baker in his testimony, and he said this was corroborated by a number of other officers. Why did the car stop during the shooting sequence?
Our next witness, Ochus Campbell, has been discussed previously in other articles (shots originating from the west (i.e. Grassy Knoll (GK) area), and again here he is prominent in seeing the limousine slowing down to a near stop.
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After hearing two more such reports, he realized they must have been rifle shots and since President KENNEDY's car had advanced just out of his vision, he went forward a few feet to observe this automobile, inasmuch as he feared that the rifle shots were in connection with an attempt upon President KENNEDY's life. He then observed the car bearing President KENNEDY to slow down, a near stop, and a motorcycle policeman rushed up. Immediately following this, he observed the car rush away from the scene. (CE 1435, p. 845; p. 1 in original)
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Again, we see a witness say the limousine came to a near stop when it was NOT safe for it to do so. Why did it do this?
Our next witness is a subject of much controversy these days. Was he in the doorway or standing on the top step as he claimed? Either way, he was in a position to see the limousine and what it did. He of course is Billy Lovelady and as we have seen in previous articles, he said he believed the shots came from the viaduct area (west) and he stated he NEVER believed the shots had come from the TSBD. You will NOT find this statement in his WC testimony, and one has to wonder why IF they were searching for the truth as claimed. [Note: McAdams’ site for witness testimony does not have this FBI interview either when it does contain other such reports.]
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I recall that following the shooting, I ran toward the spot where President Kennedy’s car had stopped. (CE 1381, p. 662; 2 in original)
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We see Lovelady clearly says he ran towards the spot where the Presidential limousine had STOPPED. Again, why would you stop during a shooting? It would seem for self-preservation reasons alone this would make you hit the gas, but what if you knew the shooters were professional and ONLY after the President? Just a thought.
Bo Byers was a reporter for the Houston Chronicle and he was included in the motorcade (White House Press Bus) and he stated TWICE that the Presidential limousine “almost came to a stop, a dead stop.” He would say in 1993 that he had nightmares about this. [C-SPAN, 11/20/93, "Journalists Remember The Kennedy Assassination"; see also the 1/94 "Fourth Decade": article by Sheldon Inkol]
Another reporter, ABC Reporter Bob Clark (rode in the National Press Pool Car)---Reported on the air that the limousine stopped on Elm Street during the shooting. [WFAA/ ABC, 11/22/63]
Why did all these people see the limousine either stop or come to a near stop IF it did NOT as the WC claimed?
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Mary Woodward:
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The Warren Commission (WC) said that the Presidential limousine did not come to a stop or slow to a near stop during the shooting of President John F. Kennedy (JFK). They used the testimony of the driver of the limousine Secret Service (SS) Agent William Greer for the basis of this claim. This post will continue to look at the many witnesses who said the limousine either stopped or came to a near stop during the shooting sequence that disputed what Greer had said and the WC accepted.
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Mary Woodward worked for the Dallas Morning News as a reporter. She spoke about this in 1993 and said the following, “Instead of speeding up the car, the car came to a halt” after the first shot. She went on to say that after the next two shots the car then sped up and took off. [C-SPAN, 11/20/93, "Journalists Remember The Kennedy Assassination"; see also the 1/94 "Fourth Decade": article by Sheldon Inkol]
Her observation is lacking from the FBI statement she gave in December 1963 (Commission Exhibit (CE) 2084) for some reason, but what she told Mark Lane did get into the WC’s record when he testified.
Mr. LANE. …Miss Woodward continued, "Instead of speeding up the car, the car came to a halt. Things are a little bit hazy from this point but I don't believe anyone was hit with the first bullet. The President and Mrs. Kennedy turned and looked around as if they, too, didn't believe the noise was really coming from a gun. Then after a moment's pause there was another shot, and I saw the President slumping in the car." (II, p. 43)
Why was she never called by the WC after hearing this? Mrs. Ruth Smith would also observe the limousine slow down or perhaps stop after the first shot.
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She looked back towards President Kennedy’s car after the first shot and thinks he raised his hands to his face. The car seemed to slow or perhaps stop after the first shot and then just after the third shot a Secret Service man from the second car ran up to the rear of the President’s car and threw himself into the rear seat. The car immediately sped away. (Commission Document (CD) 206, p. 9)
www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10673&relPageId=14
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Our next witness was none other than Roy Truly, the superintendent of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) Building and he was standing out front at the time of the motorcade.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Then what did you see happen?
Mr. TRULY. I heard an explosion, which I thought was a toy cannon or a loud firecracker from west of the building. Nothing happened at this first explosion. Everything was frozen. And immediately after two more explosions, which I realized that I thought was a gun, a rifle of some kind.
The President's--I saw the President's car swerve to the left and stop somewheres down in this area. It is misleading here. And that is the last I saw of his car, because this crowd, when the third shot rang out--there was a large crowd all along this abutment here, this little wall, and there was some around us in front--they began screaming and falling to the ground. And the people in front of myself and Mr. Campbell surged back, either in terror or panic. They must have seen this thing. I became separated from Mr. Campbell. They just practically bore me back to the first step on the entrance of our building.
Mr. BELIN. When you saw the President's car seem to stop, how long did it appear to stop?
Mr. TRULY. It would be hard to say over a second or two or something like that. I didn't see I just saw it stop. I don't know. I didn't see it start up.
Roy Truly clearly says he saw the car pull to the left and stop. This was referenced by Dallas Police Department (DPD) Officer Marrion Baker in his testimony, and he said this was corroborated by a number of other officers. Why did the car stop during the shooting sequence?
Our next witness, Ochus Campbell, has been discussed previously in other articles (shots originating from the west (i.e. Grassy Knoll (GK) area), and again here he is prominent in seeing the limousine slowing down to a near stop.
Quote on
www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pages/WH_Vol22_0438a.gif
After hearing two more such reports, he realized they must have been rifle shots and since President KENNEDY's car had advanced just out of his vision, he went forward a few feet to observe this automobile, inasmuch as he feared that the rifle shots were in connection with an attempt upon President KENNEDY's life. He then observed the car bearing President KENNEDY to slow down, a near stop, and a motorcycle policeman rushed up. Immediately following this, he observed the car rush away from the scene. (CE 1435, p. 845; p. 1 in original)
www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/html/WH_Vol22_0438a.htm
Quoe off
Again, we see a witness say the limousine came to a near stop when it was NOT safe for it to do so. Why did it do this?
Our next witness is a subject of much controversy these days. Was he in the doorway or standing on the top step as he claimed? Either way, he was in a position to see the limousine and what it did. He of course is Billy Lovelady and as we have seen in previous articles, he said he believed the shots came from the viaduct area (west) and he stated he NEVER believed the shots had come from the TSBD. You will NOT find this statement in his WC testimony, and one has to wonder why IF they were searching for the truth as claimed. [Note: McAdams’ site for witness testimony does not have this FBI interview either when it does contain other such reports.]
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I recall that following the shooting, I ran toward the spot where President Kennedy’s car had stopped. (CE 1381, p. 662; 2 in original)
www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/html/WH_Vol22_0346b.htm
Quote off
We see Lovelady clearly says he ran towards the spot where the Presidential limousine had STOPPED. Again, why would you stop during a shooting? It would seem for self-preservation reasons alone this would make you hit the gas, but what if you knew the shooters were professional and ONLY after the President? Just a thought.
Bo Byers was a reporter for the Houston Chronicle and he was included in the motorcade (White House Press Bus) and he stated TWICE that the Presidential limousine “almost came to a stop, a dead stop.” He would say in 1993 that he had nightmares about this. [C-SPAN, 11/20/93, "Journalists Remember The Kennedy Assassination"; see also the 1/94 "Fourth Decade": article by Sheldon Inkol]
Another reporter, ABC Reporter Bob Clark (rode in the National Press Pool Car)---Reported on the air that the limousine stopped on Elm Street during the shooting. [WFAA/ ABC, 11/22/63]
Why did all these people see the limousine either stop or come to a near stop IF it did NOT as the WC claimed?