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The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) investigated the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) in the years 1977-1979. They would arrive at a conclusion that was different from the Warren Commission’s (WC) as they said the assassination was a result of a “probable conspiracy.”
This new series will look at things from the HSCA’s perspective and will include newer things discovered from the time of the WC in 1964. I will entitle this series—The HSCA Says…and then put in the subject matter since the official narrative defenders had such an issue with the numbering system I employed in my other series.
Well, let’s begin. The HSCA Says…Larry Huff.
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This matter came to the attention of the HSCA in 1977 when Gloria Huff sent a letter to them. In the letter she said her husband, Larry Huff, had been part of a military investigation into the assassination of JFK. She said she had never seen this investigation mentioned and wanted the HSCA to know about it.
The HSCA would contact both the Department of Defense (DOD) and the United States Marine Corps (USMC) in order to determine if an investigation had been conducted by them into the murder of JFK. The HSCA would contact Larry Huff on March 21, 1977, to determine if the contents of the letter were accurate. He would confirm this and he would tell them his commanding officer in this investigation was Lieutenant General Carson Roberts and that it was run out of Camp Smith in Hawaii. Lt. Gen. Roberts was in charge of the 1st Marine Brigade, Pacific Marine Force. Huff would further tell the HSCA that the final report was dispatched to Japan and Dallas with the classification of “Secret—For Marine Corps Eyes Only.” (HSCA, XI, p. 541)
The HSCA would write this about a further conversation with Larry Huff on February 15, 1978.
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On February 15, 1978, in a phone conversation with committee staff, Huff further identified the airplanes that he said were used in the investigation by the military. He stated at that time that one plane flew from El Toro or Camp Pendleton in California to Dallas in December 1963. He said the plane was a KC-130. The second plane had flown from Camp Smith, Hawaii, to Atsugi Naval Air Station in Japan between December 7 and 22, 1963. It was a C-54 plane with serial number 50855. Huff identified the commander of the plane as Chief Warrant Officer Morgan.
(9) On March 9, 1978, the committee requested the following documents from the Department of Defense:
1. Any and all records (including logs and crew lists) pertaining to or concerning the flight of a C-54 military plane, serial No. 50855, which departed Camp Smith, Hawaii on December 7, 1963 for Japan and returned on December 22, 1963.
2. Any and all records (including logs and crew lists) pertaining to or concerning the flight of a KC-130 military plane which departed El Toro or Camp Pendleton base in California the first weekend in December 1963 for Dallas, Tex.
3. Any and all records, including classified material, concerning or referring to an investigation by the Marine Corps or the Air Force Office of Special Investigations into the J.F.K. assassination. It is believed that the investigation took place at Atsugi Air Base, Japan, and the El Toro Marine Base, Santa Ana, Calif., in December 1963. (HSCA, XI, 542)
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On April 19, 1978, the Air Force would say they had NO records on Roberts or Morgan and the HSCA would use the word “alleged” for the first time in regards to the military investigation. The DOD too said they had NO records pertaining to an investigation into the assassination of JFK. They posited that this investigation was being “confused” with an investigation they did on Lee Harvey Oswald’s (LHO) half-brother, John Pic. Of course according to the DOD the Pic investigation records had been DESTROYED so no one could really check to see for themselves. (XI, p. 543)
On May 8 and 9, 1978, Huff would be deposed by the HSCA and it was taken in a U.S. District Court in Spokane, Washington. Here is what the HSCA wrote about what he said during his deposition.
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(11) …Huff stated under oath that on December 14, 1963, he departed Kaneohe Base in Hawaii in a C-54-T aircraft, serial number 50855, for Wake Island, with Chief Warrant Officer Morgan as pilot. He stated that the plane continued from Wake Island to Tachikawa, Japan. Huff stated that there were ten to twelve CID military investigators on that flight. They disembarked at Tachikawa, Japan, which Huff identified as the closest landing base to the base at Atsugi.
(12) Huff stated that he would have received written orders for the flight the day before from Major Rice, who was the commanding officer at Kaneohe Bay. Huff stated that the orders from Rice normally originated from the command of the Fleet Marine Corps of Pacific at Camp Smith, over which Lieutenant General Roberts was commanding officer. In the case of this flight, Huff did not know for sure where the orders originated, but that they could also have come from Marine Corps headquarters.
(13) ...he said he learned the purpose of the trip by the CID investigators through conversations on the plane during the flight. Huff said that no other intelligence personnel were present on the flight.
(15) Huff stated in the deposition that he returned to Kaneohe Bay after leaving the investigators in Japan to investigate Oswald’s activities at Atsugi.
(16) Huff stated in the deposition that the return flight from Japan to Kaneohe Bay included the same team of CID investigators he had flown earlier. On the return flight, he had spoken with the investigators about their work in Japan and was told that they had spent the entire stay investigating Oswald. Huff said that during that flight he was allowed to read the report prepared by the investigators. He described the report as being typewritten, about 20 pages, and classified "Secret-For Marine Corps Eyes Only." " Huff recollected that the substance of the report dealt with interviews of individuals and that it contained a psychological evaluation of Oswald. Huff remembered the CONCLUSION BEING THAT OSWALD WAS INCAPABLE OF COMMITTING THE ASSASSINATION ALONE.
(17) Huff was asked during the deposition what circumstances existed that would have allowed him to see such a report. He replied that it was not unusual for him to have had access to it; he had been granted a secret clearance by the military on March 5, 1956, which would have allowed him access to classified materials. Huff stated that he had never seen the report again nor heard any reference to it. He surmised that the report would be kept in intelligence files either at the Intelligence Division of Camp Smith or with the Commandant of the Marine Corps in Washington, D.C.
(19) Huff also stated that soon after the assassination in November 1963, he had received word of another investigative team that was to travel to Dallas to investigate the assassination. (HSCA, XI, pp. 543-544) (Emphasis added)
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In this summary we see that Huff said UNDER OATH in a real court of law that he was the navigator on the flight that took CID investigators to Japan to look into LHO’s activities at Atsugi. He said on the return flight he was allowed to view their report since he had a SECRET clearance. He further stated the report said LHO was “incapable of committing the assassination alone.” This does not exonerate LHO (which is not the goal of most conspiracy minded people anyway) of being a part of the assassination, but shows in their experienced opinion he could NOT do this alone. So who else was involved with him?
Of course this type of stuff was dangerous to the conclusion the HSCA had been pursuing (that LHO acted alone) so they would go no further into this. They would interview George Moffitt who was a friend of Larry Huff’s and the senior navigator for the El Toro Air Base. He was supposedly the navigator for the flight that went to Dallas, TX. He would be interviewed on June 15, 1978, at the El Toro Naval Base in the Office of Legal Counsel. He would request a lawyer for this interview and one has to wonder why he would feel he needed a lawyer at all. Even if he participated in the investigation it was NOT illegal, so why would he feel the need for a lawyer? This lawyer would play a key part in this interview too so keep this question in mind. Here are parts of this interview in the HSCA’s exhibit.
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(22) …When asked about his activities in November and December 1963, Moffitt stated that he did not believe he had participated in a flight to Dallas. Moffitt stated that he is certain that he never told Huff that he participated in either the planning or execution of a trip to Dallas in connection with an assassination investigation. Moffitt said additionally that he had no information of knowledge of anyone participating in such a military investigation following the investigation.
(24) Moffitt said that it would not be unusual for him to transport CID personnel; he had received a top secret clearance in 1961.
(25) Moffitt said he did NOT KNOW FOR SURE IF HE TRAVELED TO OR FROM DALLAS IN NOVEMBER 1963, but that master logs maintained by the military would indicate the record of such flights.
(26) Moffitt was asked by the committee during the interview if he knew of any reason why Huff would give the information to the committee regarding an alleged military investigation of the assassination contrary to the information being given by Moffitt. Moffitt responded that he knew of no such reason and that he had no reason to QUESTION HUFF’S CREDIBILITY….During the interview, the Marine Corps attorney who was present repeated the question of whether Moffitt knew of any reason to doubt Huff’s credibility and Moffitt repeated that HE DID NOT. The Marine Corps attorney than REPEATED THE QUESTION A SECOND TIME; that time Moffitt said he believed Huff had a MENTAL PROBLEM in the past and perhaps that was a reason to question Huff’s credibility. Moffitt did not elaborate or offer any details about Huff’s purported mental problem. (HSCA XI, pp. 545-546) (Emphasis added)
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There are a good bit of interesting things in these statements by the HSCA. We see Moffitt had the clearance (Top Secret) to do this kind of assignment as Huff said. Furthermore, who believes that Moffitt could NOT remember if he flew to Dallas or not shortly after an event (and in relation to the event) as big as the JFK assassination? I sure don’t. He should have been able to say definitively one way or the other if he did or did not make this flight IMO. This was just too big NOT to remember at all and shows me that he probably did make this flight otherwise he would have issued a firm denial.
He said he was good friends with Huff and that he had no reason to question Huff’s credibility at all, but once his Marine Corps lawyer got done with repeating the question of doubting Huff’s credibility we then see that Huff allegedly had a “mental problem” years before according to Moffitt. What the mental problem was or how Moffitt knew was not asked and we are left to believe that this mental problem somehow made Huff make up flights that did NOT exist or happen. Sure. The attack of someone’s mental acuity is as old as time and we see nothing but slander being used INSTEAD of a real investigation into whether Moffitt made this flight or not.
To me this is all indicative of Moffitt making that flight to Dallas as we have seen this type of behavior countless times before in an effort to cover-up the truth. If Moffitt did NOT make the flight all he had to say was he did not make the flight, but instead we get he can’t remember for sure and Huff had a mental problem years before instead.
Next the HSCA would have General Roberts interviewed on May 25, 1978 pertaining to this issue and here is part of their summary.
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(28) During the interview, General Roberts stated that he was in command of Camp Smith at Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, at the time of the assassination in November 1963. He knew of no military flights nor investigations by military or civilian personnel connected with the assassination of President Kennedy. General Roberts was asked specifically if he recalled any information about a flight of CID investigators from Kaneohe Bay to Atsugi, Japan, to probe into the background and associations of Lee Harvey Oswald. General Roberts said he had no such knowledge, did not issue the orders for any such flight, and that if such a flight or investigation had come to his attention, he would have remembered it. However, he also stated that it would BE POSSIBLE FOR SUCH ORDERS TO BE ISSUED FROM NAVAL HEADQUARTERS in Washington, D.C., and that HE MIGHT NOT HAVE NECESSARILY KNOWN ABOUT THOSE ORDERS.
(29) …After reviewing the log, he stated that a V—5—54—P model plane with serial No. 90392 was assigned to him at the time of the assassination. General Roberts said the log book indicated that he did not participate in any flights from June 1963 until January 1964. He stated that it would have been unusual for his plane to have been used for any mission without his knowledge. He explained that he only maintained records of flights on which HE PERSONALLY FLEW. (HSCA XI, pp. 546-547) (Emphasis added)
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All this shows us is that Huff could have been wrong about General Roberts being in charge of this investigation or that General Roberts was told to deny his leadership of this investigation. As he said, orders could have come from Washington, D.C., directly and could have bypassed him altogether. He also said he ONLY kept records for flights he personally flew on and since Huff never said he flew on one of the flights it is not a shock he has no record of such a flight either. In the end, General Roberts said nothing to show Huff’s claims were inaccurate as he could have been simply kept out of the loop.
The next person interviewed by the HSCA was Roger Morgan and this took place on November 7, 1978. Why so much time had gone by between this interview and the ones with General Roberts and Moffitt is not known. Here are the key parts for this issue.
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(31) …He stated that he was a commanding officer of military transport flights at Kaneohe Bay in Hawaii at the time of the assassination. When asked if he had flown a team of CID investigators to Japan in December 1963 in connection with an investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy, Morgan said that he would NOT NORMALLY KNOW WHO HIS PASSENGERS WERE on the military transports, even IF THEY HAD INCLUDED A TEAM OF CID INVESTIGATORS. Further, his flight orders would NOT HAVE NECESSARILY HAVE INCLUDED THAT INFORMATION. Morgan also said that after so many years, he could not remember such a flight or incident, but that he had no recollection of having anything to do with an assassination investigation. (HSCA XI, p. 547) (Emphasis added)
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This does NOT show that Huff’s claim was incorrect as Morgan told the HSCA that he would not know anything about his passengers and what their orders were so this does not show there could NOT have been CID investigators going to Japan to investigate LHO as Huff said. He even said his flight orders may NOT have included this information. After a long process one of the CID men was finally tracked down and interviewed by the HSCA on November 6, 1978. His name was Harold Flower and here is what he said about the alleged investigation.
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(40) On November 6, 1978, the committee interviewed by phone Harold Flower, who served as a CID officer at El Toro Marine Base at the time of the assassination. Flower stated that Howard Bearden was in command of the CID at that time; and Bearden was deceased. Flower stated that to his knowledge, no investigation of the assassination or of Oswald was conducted in his command and he had no knowledge of such an investigation….Flower was also asked if it were possible that such an investigation could have been conducted out of El Toro using civilian investigation personnel who would not have necessarily been under the command of his CID unit. Flower said that if the local FBI office had conducted an inquiry at El Toro, he would have known about it, because he personally knew all of the Special Agents stationed at the local FBI field office in nearby Santa Ana, California….Flower stated additionally that the Air Facility at Santa Ana had its OWN CID UNIT, which would be the appropriate repository of information about Oswald. (HSCA, XI, pp. 548-549)
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Again, we do NOT see anything that could show Huff’s claim is incorrect as Flower said he did not know of any such investigation, but then said that Howard Bearden was in OVERALL charge of the CID unit and he was dead. Perhaps Flower was simply NOT included in the “need-to-know” about this investigation. Also, he mentioned knowing all the FBI Special Agents, but who said the civilians he was asked about had to be FBI beyond him? No one did so we can’t rule this out, especially when we hear that the Santa Ana Air Facility had their OWN CID unit! Perhaps to avoid detection they were selected instead of the CID personnel at El Toro which could be more easily traced if anyone ever looked into this (which no one did until 1977 when Huff’s wife sent the letter to the HSCA).
On December 8, 1978, the HSCA received a letter from Roger Morgan which said the following.
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My personal log books DO REFLECT the fact that I was a commander of a flight from Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii to Tachikawa AFB in Japan and return on the dates in question.
The aircraft type was a C-54, assigned to Marine Aircraft Group 13, Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. The aircraft bureau number was 50855. (HSCA, XI, p. 549) (Emphasis added)
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So after all the uncertainty by Morgan (and his lawyer prodding him to mention Huff’s alleged “mental problem”) we see he did command a flight of a C-54 with serial number 50855 from Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, to Tachikawa AFB in Japan just like Huff said! So why should we doubt the rest of what he said about an investigation into both LHO and the assassination of JFK? To me the only reason the investigation would be hidden is because it showed LHO was NOT capable of doing what was claimed of him. I’m sure if it showed he could , and did what was claimed of him, they would have made this report available to the WC and FBI as quick as possible. It makes sense too that the USMC and Navy (through the Office of Naval Intelligence) would investigate this as LHO had been a Marine and his alleged act could reflect poorly on the USMC.
At this point there is not much more on Larry Huff that I can find, so we need to remember what he said about the CID report he was allowed to read said.
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Huff remembered the CONCLUSION BEING THAT OSWALD WAS INCAPABLE OF COMMITTING THE ASSASSINATION ALONE.
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This is the same conclusion the Soviet KGB came to as I quoted in my “Statements That Sink The WC’s Conclusions” series.
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My group, the special section for analysis, concluded that President Kennedy was NOT killed by Oswald. There were a lot of differences in opinion in the KGB but one thing we ALL AGREED was that Oswald was too incompetent to have pulled this off. (Interview with KBG Colonel Ilya Semyonovitch Pavlotsky, on video The Secret KGB/JFK Assassination Files, Associated Television, 1998)
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We see an agreement of LHO’s capability between the CID and the KGB, but what did the full Dallas report show? If we could only see that one it might shed a lot of light on what really happened on November 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas. For now, we will have to consider what Larry Huff said the report he saw said and it shows if LHO was part of the assassination he did NOT act alone as we were told by the WC in 1964.
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The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) investigated the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) in the years 1977-1979. They would arrive at a conclusion that was different from the Warren Commission’s (WC) as they said the assassination was a result of a “probable conspiracy.”
This new series will look at things from the HSCA’s perspective and will include newer things discovered from the time of the WC in 1964. I will entitle this series—The HSCA Says…and then put in the subject matter since the official narrative defenders had such an issue with the numbering system I employed in my other series.
Well, let’s begin. The HSCA Says…Larry Huff.
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This matter came to the attention of the HSCA in 1977 when Gloria Huff sent a letter to them. In the letter she said her husband, Larry Huff, had been part of a military investigation into the assassination of JFK. She said she had never seen this investigation mentioned and wanted the HSCA to know about it.
The HSCA would contact both the Department of Defense (DOD) and the United States Marine Corps (USMC) in order to determine if an investigation had been conducted by them into the murder of JFK. The HSCA would contact Larry Huff on March 21, 1977, to determine if the contents of the letter were accurate. He would confirm this and he would tell them his commanding officer in this investigation was Lieutenant General Carson Roberts and that it was run out of Camp Smith in Hawaii. Lt. Gen. Roberts was in charge of the 1st Marine Brigade, Pacific Marine Force. Huff would further tell the HSCA that the final report was dispatched to Japan and Dallas with the classification of “Secret—For Marine Corps Eyes Only.” (HSCA, XI, p. 541)
The HSCA would write this about a further conversation with Larry Huff on February 15, 1978.
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On February 15, 1978, in a phone conversation with committee staff, Huff further identified the airplanes that he said were used in the investigation by the military. He stated at that time that one plane flew from El Toro or Camp Pendleton in California to Dallas in December 1963. He said the plane was a KC-130. The second plane had flown from Camp Smith, Hawaii, to Atsugi Naval Air Station in Japan between December 7 and 22, 1963. It was a C-54 plane with serial number 50855. Huff identified the commander of the plane as Chief Warrant Officer Morgan.
(9) On March 9, 1978, the committee requested the following documents from the Department of Defense:
1. Any and all records (including logs and crew lists) pertaining to or concerning the flight of a C-54 military plane, serial No. 50855, which departed Camp Smith, Hawaii on December 7, 1963 for Japan and returned on December 22, 1963.
2. Any and all records (including logs and crew lists) pertaining to or concerning the flight of a KC-130 military plane which departed El Toro or Camp Pendleton base in California the first weekend in December 1963 for Dallas, Tex.
3. Any and all records, including classified material, concerning or referring to an investigation by the Marine Corps or the Air Force Office of Special Investigations into the J.F.K. assassination. It is believed that the investigation took place at Atsugi Air Base, Japan, and the El Toro Marine Base, Santa Ana, Calif., in December 1963. (HSCA, XI, 542)
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On April 19, 1978, the Air Force would say they had NO records on Roberts or Morgan and the HSCA would use the word “alleged” for the first time in regards to the military investigation. The DOD too said they had NO records pertaining to an investigation into the assassination of JFK. They posited that this investigation was being “confused” with an investigation they did on Lee Harvey Oswald’s (LHO) half-brother, John Pic. Of course according to the DOD the Pic investigation records had been DESTROYED so no one could really check to see for themselves. (XI, p. 543)
On May 8 and 9, 1978, Huff would be deposed by the HSCA and it was taken in a U.S. District Court in Spokane, Washington. Here is what the HSCA wrote about what he said during his deposition.
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(11) …Huff stated under oath that on December 14, 1963, he departed Kaneohe Base in Hawaii in a C-54-T aircraft, serial number 50855, for Wake Island, with Chief Warrant Officer Morgan as pilot. He stated that the plane continued from Wake Island to Tachikawa, Japan. Huff stated that there were ten to twelve CID military investigators on that flight. They disembarked at Tachikawa, Japan, which Huff identified as the closest landing base to the base at Atsugi.
(12) Huff stated that he would have received written orders for the flight the day before from Major Rice, who was the commanding officer at Kaneohe Bay. Huff stated that the orders from Rice normally originated from the command of the Fleet Marine Corps of Pacific at Camp Smith, over which Lieutenant General Roberts was commanding officer. In the case of this flight, Huff did not know for sure where the orders originated, but that they could also have come from Marine Corps headquarters.
(13) ...he said he learned the purpose of the trip by the CID investigators through conversations on the plane during the flight. Huff said that no other intelligence personnel were present on the flight.
(15) Huff stated in the deposition that he returned to Kaneohe Bay after leaving the investigators in Japan to investigate Oswald’s activities at Atsugi.
(16) Huff stated in the deposition that the return flight from Japan to Kaneohe Bay included the same team of CID investigators he had flown earlier. On the return flight, he had spoken with the investigators about their work in Japan and was told that they had spent the entire stay investigating Oswald. Huff said that during that flight he was allowed to read the report prepared by the investigators. He described the report as being typewritten, about 20 pages, and classified "Secret-For Marine Corps Eyes Only." " Huff recollected that the substance of the report dealt with interviews of individuals and that it contained a psychological evaluation of Oswald. Huff remembered the CONCLUSION BEING THAT OSWALD WAS INCAPABLE OF COMMITTING THE ASSASSINATION ALONE.
(17) Huff was asked during the deposition what circumstances existed that would have allowed him to see such a report. He replied that it was not unusual for him to have had access to it; he had been granted a secret clearance by the military on March 5, 1956, which would have allowed him access to classified materials. Huff stated that he had never seen the report again nor heard any reference to it. He surmised that the report would be kept in intelligence files either at the Intelligence Division of Camp Smith or with the Commandant of the Marine Corps in Washington, D.C.
(19) Huff also stated that soon after the assassination in November 1963, he had received word of another investigative team that was to travel to Dallas to investigate the assassination. (HSCA, XI, pp. 543-544) (Emphasis added)
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In this summary we see that Huff said UNDER OATH in a real court of law that he was the navigator on the flight that took CID investigators to Japan to look into LHO’s activities at Atsugi. He said on the return flight he was allowed to view their report since he had a SECRET clearance. He further stated the report said LHO was “incapable of committing the assassination alone.” This does not exonerate LHO (which is not the goal of most conspiracy minded people anyway) of being a part of the assassination, but shows in their experienced opinion he could NOT do this alone. So who else was involved with him?
Of course this type of stuff was dangerous to the conclusion the HSCA had been pursuing (that LHO acted alone) so they would go no further into this. They would interview George Moffitt who was a friend of Larry Huff’s and the senior navigator for the El Toro Air Base. He was supposedly the navigator for the flight that went to Dallas, TX. He would be interviewed on June 15, 1978, at the El Toro Naval Base in the Office of Legal Counsel. He would request a lawyer for this interview and one has to wonder why he would feel he needed a lawyer at all. Even if he participated in the investigation it was NOT illegal, so why would he feel the need for a lawyer? This lawyer would play a key part in this interview too so keep this question in mind. Here are parts of this interview in the HSCA’s exhibit.
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(22) …When asked about his activities in November and December 1963, Moffitt stated that he did not believe he had participated in a flight to Dallas. Moffitt stated that he is certain that he never told Huff that he participated in either the planning or execution of a trip to Dallas in connection with an assassination investigation. Moffitt said additionally that he had no information of knowledge of anyone participating in such a military investigation following the investigation.
(24) Moffitt said that it would not be unusual for him to transport CID personnel; he had received a top secret clearance in 1961.
(25) Moffitt said he did NOT KNOW FOR SURE IF HE TRAVELED TO OR FROM DALLAS IN NOVEMBER 1963, but that master logs maintained by the military would indicate the record of such flights.
(26) Moffitt was asked by the committee during the interview if he knew of any reason why Huff would give the information to the committee regarding an alleged military investigation of the assassination contrary to the information being given by Moffitt. Moffitt responded that he knew of no such reason and that he had no reason to QUESTION HUFF’S CREDIBILITY….During the interview, the Marine Corps attorney who was present repeated the question of whether Moffitt knew of any reason to doubt Huff’s credibility and Moffitt repeated that HE DID NOT. The Marine Corps attorney than REPEATED THE QUESTION A SECOND TIME; that time Moffitt said he believed Huff had a MENTAL PROBLEM in the past and perhaps that was a reason to question Huff’s credibility. Moffitt did not elaborate or offer any details about Huff’s purported mental problem. (HSCA XI, pp. 545-546) (Emphasis added)
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There are a good bit of interesting things in these statements by the HSCA. We see Moffitt had the clearance (Top Secret) to do this kind of assignment as Huff said. Furthermore, who believes that Moffitt could NOT remember if he flew to Dallas or not shortly after an event (and in relation to the event) as big as the JFK assassination? I sure don’t. He should have been able to say definitively one way or the other if he did or did not make this flight IMO. This was just too big NOT to remember at all and shows me that he probably did make this flight otherwise he would have issued a firm denial.
He said he was good friends with Huff and that he had no reason to question Huff’s credibility at all, but once his Marine Corps lawyer got done with repeating the question of doubting Huff’s credibility we then see that Huff allegedly had a “mental problem” years before according to Moffitt. What the mental problem was or how Moffitt knew was not asked and we are left to believe that this mental problem somehow made Huff make up flights that did NOT exist or happen. Sure. The attack of someone’s mental acuity is as old as time and we see nothing but slander being used INSTEAD of a real investigation into whether Moffitt made this flight or not.
To me this is all indicative of Moffitt making that flight to Dallas as we have seen this type of behavior countless times before in an effort to cover-up the truth. If Moffitt did NOT make the flight all he had to say was he did not make the flight, but instead we get he can’t remember for sure and Huff had a mental problem years before instead.
Next the HSCA would have General Roberts interviewed on May 25, 1978 pertaining to this issue and here is part of their summary.
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(28) During the interview, General Roberts stated that he was in command of Camp Smith at Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, at the time of the assassination in November 1963. He knew of no military flights nor investigations by military or civilian personnel connected with the assassination of President Kennedy. General Roberts was asked specifically if he recalled any information about a flight of CID investigators from Kaneohe Bay to Atsugi, Japan, to probe into the background and associations of Lee Harvey Oswald. General Roberts said he had no such knowledge, did not issue the orders for any such flight, and that if such a flight or investigation had come to his attention, he would have remembered it. However, he also stated that it would BE POSSIBLE FOR SUCH ORDERS TO BE ISSUED FROM NAVAL HEADQUARTERS in Washington, D.C., and that HE MIGHT NOT HAVE NECESSARILY KNOWN ABOUT THOSE ORDERS.
(29) …After reviewing the log, he stated that a V—5—54—P model plane with serial No. 90392 was assigned to him at the time of the assassination. General Roberts said the log book indicated that he did not participate in any flights from June 1963 until January 1964. He stated that it would have been unusual for his plane to have been used for any mission without his knowledge. He explained that he only maintained records of flights on which HE PERSONALLY FLEW. (HSCA XI, pp. 546-547) (Emphasis added)
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All this shows us is that Huff could have been wrong about General Roberts being in charge of this investigation or that General Roberts was told to deny his leadership of this investigation. As he said, orders could have come from Washington, D.C., directly and could have bypassed him altogether. He also said he ONLY kept records for flights he personally flew on and since Huff never said he flew on one of the flights it is not a shock he has no record of such a flight either. In the end, General Roberts said nothing to show Huff’s claims were inaccurate as he could have been simply kept out of the loop.
The next person interviewed by the HSCA was Roger Morgan and this took place on November 7, 1978. Why so much time had gone by between this interview and the ones with General Roberts and Moffitt is not known. Here are the key parts for this issue.
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(31) …He stated that he was a commanding officer of military transport flights at Kaneohe Bay in Hawaii at the time of the assassination. When asked if he had flown a team of CID investigators to Japan in December 1963 in connection with an investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy, Morgan said that he would NOT NORMALLY KNOW WHO HIS PASSENGERS WERE on the military transports, even IF THEY HAD INCLUDED A TEAM OF CID INVESTIGATORS. Further, his flight orders would NOT HAVE NECESSARILY HAVE INCLUDED THAT INFORMATION. Morgan also said that after so many years, he could not remember such a flight or incident, but that he had no recollection of having anything to do with an assassination investigation. (HSCA XI, p. 547) (Emphasis added)
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This does NOT show that Huff’s claim was incorrect as Morgan told the HSCA that he would not know anything about his passengers and what their orders were so this does not show there could NOT have been CID investigators going to Japan to investigate LHO as Huff said. He even said his flight orders may NOT have included this information. After a long process one of the CID men was finally tracked down and interviewed by the HSCA on November 6, 1978. His name was Harold Flower and here is what he said about the alleged investigation.
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(40) On November 6, 1978, the committee interviewed by phone Harold Flower, who served as a CID officer at El Toro Marine Base at the time of the assassination. Flower stated that Howard Bearden was in command of the CID at that time; and Bearden was deceased. Flower stated that to his knowledge, no investigation of the assassination or of Oswald was conducted in his command and he had no knowledge of such an investigation….Flower was also asked if it were possible that such an investigation could have been conducted out of El Toro using civilian investigation personnel who would not have necessarily been under the command of his CID unit. Flower said that if the local FBI office had conducted an inquiry at El Toro, he would have known about it, because he personally knew all of the Special Agents stationed at the local FBI field office in nearby Santa Ana, California….Flower stated additionally that the Air Facility at Santa Ana had its OWN CID UNIT, which would be the appropriate repository of information about Oswald. (HSCA, XI, pp. 548-549)
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Again, we do NOT see anything that could show Huff’s claim is incorrect as Flower said he did not know of any such investigation, but then said that Howard Bearden was in OVERALL charge of the CID unit and he was dead. Perhaps Flower was simply NOT included in the “need-to-know” about this investigation. Also, he mentioned knowing all the FBI Special Agents, but who said the civilians he was asked about had to be FBI beyond him? No one did so we can’t rule this out, especially when we hear that the Santa Ana Air Facility had their OWN CID unit! Perhaps to avoid detection they were selected instead of the CID personnel at El Toro which could be more easily traced if anyone ever looked into this (which no one did until 1977 when Huff’s wife sent the letter to the HSCA).
On December 8, 1978, the HSCA received a letter from Roger Morgan which said the following.
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My personal log books DO REFLECT the fact that I was a commander of a flight from Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii to Tachikawa AFB in Japan and return on the dates in question.
The aircraft type was a C-54, assigned to Marine Aircraft Group 13, Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. The aircraft bureau number was 50855. (HSCA, XI, p. 549) (Emphasis added)
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So after all the uncertainty by Morgan (and his lawyer prodding him to mention Huff’s alleged “mental problem”) we see he did command a flight of a C-54 with serial number 50855 from Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, to Tachikawa AFB in Japan just like Huff said! So why should we doubt the rest of what he said about an investigation into both LHO and the assassination of JFK? To me the only reason the investigation would be hidden is because it showed LHO was NOT capable of doing what was claimed of him. I’m sure if it showed he could , and did what was claimed of him, they would have made this report available to the WC and FBI as quick as possible. It makes sense too that the USMC and Navy (through the Office of Naval Intelligence) would investigate this as LHO had been a Marine and his alleged act could reflect poorly on the USMC.
At this point there is not much more on Larry Huff that I can find, so we need to remember what he said about the CID report he was allowed to read said.
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Huff remembered the CONCLUSION BEING THAT OSWALD WAS INCAPABLE OF COMMITTING THE ASSASSINATION ALONE.
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This is the same conclusion the Soviet KGB came to as I quoted in my “Statements That Sink The WC’s Conclusions” series.
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My group, the special section for analysis, concluded that President Kennedy was NOT killed by Oswald. There were a lot of differences in opinion in the KGB but one thing we ALL AGREED was that Oswald was too incompetent to have pulled this off. (Interview with KBG Colonel Ilya Semyonovitch Pavlotsky, on video The Secret KGB/JFK Assassination Files, Associated Television, 1998)
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We see an agreement of LHO’s capability between the CID and the KGB, but what did the full Dallas report show? If we could only see that one it might shed a lot of light on what really happened on November 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas. For now, we will have to consider what Larry Huff said the report he saw said and it shows if LHO was part of the assassination he did NOT act alone as we were told by the WC in 1964.