Post by Rob Caprio on Apr 16, 2019 20:47:12 GMT -5
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Why did the Military Intelligence and the CIA have files on Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) if he was just a “loner” as claimed by the Warren Commission (WC)?
The House Select Assassinations Committee (HSCA) looked into these issues and gave us more information about them. On page 221 of their Report we will read the following.
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Oswald’s Military Intelligence file.—On November 22, 1963, soon after the assassination, Lieutenant. Colonel Robert E. Jones, operations officer of the U.S. Army’s 112th Military Intelligence Group (MIG), Fort Sam Houston, San Antonio, Tex., contacted the FBI offices in San Antonio and Dallas and gave those offices detailed information concerning Oswald and A.J. Hidell, Oswald’s ALLEGED alias. This information suggest the existence of a military intelligence file on Oswald and raised the possibility that he had intelligence associations of some kind.
The committee’s investigation revealed that military intelligence officials had opened a file on Oswald because he was perceived as a possible counterintelligence threat. (HSCA Report, p. 221)
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Why was he perceived as a “counterintelligence” threat? Was it because he had gone to Russia to denounce his U.S. citizenship and threatened to give away TOP SECRET information? NO! It was because he was arrested for handing out Fair Play For Cuba Committee (FPCC) leaflets in New Orleans according to Lt. Col. Jones! You can read this for yourself on page 222.
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So we are to believe handing out leaflets is more dangerous to America than defecting to our main enemy at the height of the Cold War and threatening to give them TOP SECRET information! What about the FBI’s quick reaction to LHO’s request to see a FBI agent when he was arrested in New Orleans? They covered this too on page 191 of the Report.
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FBI contacts with Oswald (New Orleans, 1963)—The committee interviewed the special agent in charge of the FBI office in New Orleans in 1963 and THREE special agents who handled the Oswald case in that city, and it found their statements that Oswald had NOT been a FBI informant to be credible. (HSCA Report, p. 191)
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They basically offer up denial by Harry Maynor (SAIC) and Milton Kaack (Special Agent) as the ONLY reason why they believe LHO was NOT an informant for the FBI in New Orleans. They then got to Special Agent Quigley later on the same page.
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FBI Special Agent John L. Quigley interviewed Oswald the following day [August 10, the day after he was arrested] in a New Orleans jail. Quigley’s WILLINGNESS to meet with Oswald in jail has been cited as evidence that Oswald was an FBI informant. Moreover, in connection with this incident, William S. Walter, who was an FBI security clerk in New Orleans in 1963, told the committee that he had been on duty the day this interview occurred. In response to Quigley’s request for a file check on Oswald, he had determined that the New Orleans FBI office maintained both a security file and an INFORMANT file on Oswald. (Ibid.)
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Quigley would testify that he had NOT asked LHO to be an informant (and signed an affidavit saying so) before the WC.
Mr. STERN. What was the occasion for your making this affidavit, Mr. Quigley?
Mr. QUIGLEY. I was instructed to proceed to our Dallas office to prepare such a document. This document relates to informant material. This is the general context of it. Did you care for me to read the document?
Mr. STERN. No; we have it. Does informant mean to you only a person who gives information in return for money or some other valuable consideration, or does it have a broader meaning as far as you are concerned?
Mr. QUIGLEY. It would have a broader meaning as far as I was concerned.
Mr. STERN. What would that mean when you used the word in this affidavit? What did you mean by "informant"?
Mr. QUIGLEY. One who furnishes information.
Mr. STERN. For whatever reason?
Mr. QUIGLEY. Whatever may be the reason; yes.
Mr. STERN. And you did not, according to your affidavit, ask Mr. Oswald----
Mr. QUIGLEY. I did not ask or suggest that Mr. Oswald become an informant of the FBI nor did I offer him any money or any other inducements to become an informant.
Mr. STERN. Did you say anything to him at all about geting in touch with you or the FBI again about any matter?
Mr. QUIGLEY. I did not.
It is stated on page 191 of the HSCA Report that Quigley did NOT ask LHO to be an informant (of course this is NOT dealing with the issue of LHO ALREADY being an informant for someone else) and that when he checked the file indicis he saw there was already a SECURITY INVESTIGATION being done on LHO by SA Kaack! Does any of this make any sense to you? We have THREE special agents assigned to him in New Orleans, John Quigley pretty much drops everything and runs to LHO when he is requested (on a Saturday too!) and SA Kaack has a SECURITY investigation underway on him! In addition we have Walter saying LHO had an INFORMANT FILE on him. Something doesn’t add up here, but the main point for this post is this—would a LONER warrant all this attention?
But wait, there is more! On page 200 we find information about the CIA having a 201 file on LHO.
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Oswald’s CIA file.—The CIA has long acknowledged that prior to the President’s assassination, it had a personality file on Oswald, that is, a file that contained data about Oswald as an individual. This file, which in Agency terminology is referred to as a 201 file, was opened on December 9, 1960. The Agency explained that a 201 files are opened when a person is considered to be of potential intelligence or counterintelligence SIGNIFICANCE. The opening of such a file is designed to serve the purpose of placing certain CIA information pertaining to that individual in one centralized records system.
…The existence of a 201 does not necessarily connote any actual relationship or contact with the CIA. For example, the Oswald file was opened, according to the Agency, because as an American defector, he was considered to be of continuing intelligence interest. (HSCA Report, p. 200)
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The main problem with the CIA’s version of events is that LHO DEFECTED on October 31, 1959, as a confidential State Department telegram explained the events going in Moscow, so why did the CIA NOT open this 201 file UNTIL December 9, 1960? Was the defector of NO interest to the CIA for over thirteen months then? Also, what was LHO’s “significance” to the CIA anyway?
How can it be explained why Military Intelligence, the FBI and the CIA all had files (and in the case of the FBI multiple agents) on a “LONER”?
The defection angle only goes so far since LHO was aided in his return and he was NEVER interrogated by the CIA about his defection in the first place.
www.texemarrs.com/images/lee_harvey_oswald_07202017.jpg
Why did the Military Intelligence and the CIA have files on Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) if he was just a “loner” as claimed by the Warren Commission (WC)?
The House Select Assassinations Committee (HSCA) looked into these issues and gave us more information about them. On page 221 of their Report we will read the following.
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Oswald’s Military Intelligence file.—On November 22, 1963, soon after the assassination, Lieutenant. Colonel Robert E. Jones, operations officer of the U.S. Army’s 112th Military Intelligence Group (MIG), Fort Sam Houston, San Antonio, Tex., contacted the FBI offices in San Antonio and Dallas and gave those offices detailed information concerning Oswald and A.J. Hidell, Oswald’s ALLEGED alias. This information suggest the existence of a military intelligence file on Oswald and raised the possibility that he had intelligence associations of some kind.
The committee’s investigation revealed that military intelligence officials had opened a file on Oswald because he was perceived as a possible counterintelligence threat. (HSCA Report, p. 221)
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/report/html/HSCA_Report_0126a.htm
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Why was he perceived as a “counterintelligence” threat? Was it because he had gone to Russia to denounce his U.S. citizenship and threatened to give away TOP SECRET information? NO! It was because he was arrested for handing out Fair Play For Cuba Committee (FPCC) leaflets in New Orleans according to Lt. Col. Jones! You can read this for yourself on page 222.
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/report/pages/HSCA_Report_0126b.gif
So we are to believe handing out leaflets is more dangerous to America than defecting to our main enemy at the height of the Cold War and threatening to give them TOP SECRET information! What about the FBI’s quick reaction to LHO’s request to see a FBI agent when he was arrested in New Orleans? They covered this too on page 191 of the Report.
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FBI contacts with Oswald (New Orleans, 1963)—The committee interviewed the special agent in charge of the FBI office in New Orleans in 1963 and THREE special agents who handled the Oswald case in that city, and it found their statements that Oswald had NOT been a FBI informant to be credible. (HSCA Report, p. 191)
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/report/html/HSCA_Report_0111a.htm
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They basically offer up denial by Harry Maynor (SAIC) and Milton Kaack (Special Agent) as the ONLY reason why they believe LHO was NOT an informant for the FBI in New Orleans. They then got to Special Agent Quigley later on the same page.
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FBI Special Agent John L. Quigley interviewed Oswald the following day [August 10, the day after he was arrested] in a New Orleans jail. Quigley’s WILLINGNESS to meet with Oswald in jail has been cited as evidence that Oswald was an FBI informant. Moreover, in connection with this incident, William S. Walter, who was an FBI security clerk in New Orleans in 1963, told the committee that he had been on duty the day this interview occurred. In response to Quigley’s request for a file check on Oswald, he had determined that the New Orleans FBI office maintained both a security file and an INFORMANT file on Oswald. (Ibid.)
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Quigley would testify that he had NOT asked LHO to be an informant (and signed an affidavit saying so) before the WC.
Mr. STERN. What was the occasion for your making this affidavit, Mr. Quigley?
Mr. QUIGLEY. I was instructed to proceed to our Dallas office to prepare such a document. This document relates to informant material. This is the general context of it. Did you care for me to read the document?
Mr. STERN. No; we have it. Does informant mean to you only a person who gives information in return for money or some other valuable consideration, or does it have a broader meaning as far as you are concerned?
Mr. QUIGLEY. It would have a broader meaning as far as I was concerned.
Mr. STERN. What would that mean when you used the word in this affidavit? What did you mean by "informant"?
Mr. QUIGLEY. One who furnishes information.
Mr. STERN. For whatever reason?
Mr. QUIGLEY. Whatever may be the reason; yes.
Mr. STERN. And you did not, according to your affidavit, ask Mr. Oswald----
Mr. QUIGLEY. I did not ask or suggest that Mr. Oswald become an informant of the FBI nor did I offer him any money or any other inducements to become an informant.
Mr. STERN. Did you say anything to him at all about geting in touch with you or the FBI again about any matter?
Mr. QUIGLEY. I did not.
It is stated on page 191 of the HSCA Report that Quigley did NOT ask LHO to be an informant (of course this is NOT dealing with the issue of LHO ALREADY being an informant for someone else) and that when he checked the file indicis he saw there was already a SECURITY INVESTIGATION being done on LHO by SA Kaack! Does any of this make any sense to you? We have THREE special agents assigned to him in New Orleans, John Quigley pretty much drops everything and runs to LHO when he is requested (on a Saturday too!) and SA Kaack has a SECURITY investigation underway on him! In addition we have Walter saying LHO had an INFORMANT FILE on him. Something doesn’t add up here, but the main point for this post is this—would a LONER warrant all this attention?
But wait, there is more! On page 200 we find information about the CIA having a 201 file on LHO.
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historymatters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/report/pages/HSCA_Report_0115b.gif
Oswald’s CIA file.—The CIA has long acknowledged that prior to the President’s assassination, it had a personality file on Oswald, that is, a file that contained data about Oswald as an individual. This file, which in Agency terminology is referred to as a 201 file, was opened on December 9, 1960. The Agency explained that a 201 files are opened when a person is considered to be of potential intelligence or counterintelligence SIGNIFICANCE. The opening of such a file is designed to serve the purpose of placing certain CIA information pertaining to that individual in one centralized records system.
…The existence of a 201 does not necessarily connote any actual relationship or contact with the CIA. For example, the Oswald file was opened, according to the Agency, because as an American defector, he was considered to be of continuing intelligence interest. (HSCA Report, p. 200)
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/report/html/HSCA_Report_0115b.htm
The main problem with the CIA’s version of events is that LHO DEFECTED on October 31, 1959, as a confidential State Department telegram explained the events going in Moscow, so why did the CIA NOT open this 201 file UNTIL December 9, 1960? Was the defector of NO interest to the CIA for over thirteen months then? Also, what was LHO’s “significance” to the CIA anyway?
How can it be explained why Military Intelligence, the FBI and the CIA all had files (and in the case of the FBI multiple agents) on a “LONER”?
The defection angle only goes so far since LHO was aided in his return and he was NEVER interrogated by the CIA about his defection in the first place.