Post by Rob Caprio on Nov 12, 2019 20:47:26 GMT -5
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Walt has claimed this about the Backyard (BYP) photograph known as CE-133A!
“A prime example is the one and only authentic Back Yard photo CE 133A. Since you view it as incriminating your compelled to denounce it as a fake.” (Walt)
Thus, it was added to the list of UNSUPPORTED CLAIMS due to NO supporting evidence showing this was a factual claim.
Walt never proved Marina did in fact take CE-133A (backyard photo), and it is AUTHENTIC.
He had NOT offered any evidence to support this claim (just like the WC!) since he first uttered it to me several years ago.
Yet he continues to claim Marina did IN FACT take CE133A.
“It's very evident that Marina DID in fact take a photo of Lee holding a Mannlicher Carcano.....you chose to dis belive (sic) that even though there is a mountain of evidence to support that fact.“ (Walt)
ALL LNers use terms like OVERWHELMING, MOUNTAIN OF, OR A TON OF, but NO LNer can ever produce any of it that shows their assumption is the correct one!
Ben claims to call out all kinds of liars, like this!
“Lies will be pointed out, no matter *WHO* asserts 'em.” (Ben Holmes—12/8/09)
And this!
“When people refuse to support their own assertions, I merely point it out.” (Ben Holmes – 7/9/09)
Yet he has NOT called out Walt for this obvious lie so we have to assume he BELIEVES CE 133A is GENUINE TOO! Actually, we don't have to assume anything as he has made his belief known to us!
“There *IS* evidence that it's authentic. That's merely a fact. Why bother to deny it, Rob?" (Ben Holmes)
Of course beyond Marina's say-so there is NONE that he will present to SUPPORT THIS CLAIM of his! He is so sure of Marina's testimony that he kept saying there was EVIDENCE for this claim of his and Walt's!
“Sadly, the fact that there's evidence for the authenticity of CE-133A is simply a fact...much as the fact that a watch was found among Oswald's possessions.“ (Ben Holmes)
Sadly for him, we have ONLY Marina's say-so to the Warren Commission (WC) where NO defense attorney was allowed to cross-examine her, no hearsay or leading questions were barred, and NO perjury was enforced! Add in the FACT there is NO corroborating evidence whatsoever for her claim and you get the picture!
Yet he kept on claiming her word or claim was SUPPORTIVE of his and Walt's claim that it was real!
“Then share it with us! Why are you running from the evidence Ben, I thought you said ONLY LNers did this? I guess Ben is proving he is a LNer for us! (Robert)
“If you try to deny that there's evidence that CE-133A is authentic, then you're just a stupid liar. A liar because clearly there *is* evidence that it's authentic, and stupid because anyone can quickly find it on their own.“ (Ben Holmes)
There is NO evidence showing it is authentic, there is ONLY Marina's claim to the WC that she took it on 3/31/63. There is NOT one piece of corroborating evidence to support this claim.
Furthermore, Ben used to know that Marina's testimony was NOT reliable. He has said this about her testimony before!
33) Marina's account of the blanket, rifle, etc., casts Oswald in an even more incriminating light. (Ed Cage)
“As you are well aware, Marina contradicted herself on almost everything she said. The fact that you're willing to accept her testimony in this case illustrates your bias.” (Ben Holmes)
He has said other comments about her testimony as well over the years like this!
“Oswald went to Mexico City to try to get a visa to go to Cuba. Any CT's care to refute this?” (Brandon Alexander)
“Again, I'd like to see this 'proven' first, before trying to 'demolish' it...no photo's, lack of original eyewitness testimony, voice recording *not* LHO's voice, bus ticket 'discovered' months later...to say nothing of the the admission by a former CIA man...that LHO was *not* in Mexico City. Really, anyone attempting to place LHO in Mexico has severe problems to overcome.
***Again, relying on Marina's testimony is not smart***.” (Ben Holmes – 12/4/97)
And yet, we now see Ben is the one who is BIASED AND NOT SMART as he puts his ENTIRE claim in her hands! As he did for the watch issue!
There is NO evidence showing ANY of the BYPs are genuine, let alone just one! They ALL have major issues with them so they are all either fake or real.
These two lie for the BENEFIT of the WC and yet they call me a troll! Lying about the evidence is what THEY DO, and it is a requirement for trolldom!
“Denial of the evidence is quite common among the trolls, indeed, it's one of the defining requirements of trolldom.” (Ben Holmes – 7/12/09)
Walt has claimed this about the Backyard (BYP) photograph known as CE-133A!
“A prime example is the one and only authentic Back Yard photo CE 133A. Since you view it as incriminating your compelled to denounce it as a fake.” (Walt)
Thus, it was added to the list of UNSUPPORTED CLAIMS due to NO supporting evidence showing this was a factual claim.
Walt never proved Marina did in fact take CE-133A (backyard photo), and it is AUTHENTIC.
He had NOT offered any evidence to support this claim (just like the WC!) since he first uttered it to me several years ago.
Yet he continues to claim Marina did IN FACT take CE133A.
“It's very evident that Marina DID in fact take a photo of Lee holding a Mannlicher Carcano.....you chose to dis belive (sic) that even though there is a mountain of evidence to support that fact.“ (Walt)
ALL LNers use terms like OVERWHELMING, MOUNTAIN OF, OR A TON OF, but NO LNer can ever produce any of it that shows their assumption is the correct one!
Ben claims to call out all kinds of liars, like this!
“Lies will be pointed out, no matter *WHO* asserts 'em.” (Ben Holmes—12/8/09)
And this!
“When people refuse to support their own assertions, I merely point it out.” (Ben Holmes – 7/9/09)
Yet he has NOT called out Walt for this obvious lie so we have to assume he BELIEVES CE 133A is GENUINE TOO! Actually, we don't have to assume anything as he has made his belief known to us!
“There *IS* evidence that it's authentic. That's merely a fact. Why bother to deny it, Rob?" (Ben Holmes)
Of course beyond Marina's say-so there is NONE that he will present to SUPPORT THIS CLAIM of his! He is so sure of Marina's testimony that he kept saying there was EVIDENCE for this claim of his and Walt's!
“Sadly, the fact that there's evidence for the authenticity of CE-133A is simply a fact...much as the fact that a watch was found among Oswald's possessions.“ (Ben Holmes)
Sadly for him, we have ONLY Marina's say-so to the Warren Commission (WC) where NO defense attorney was allowed to cross-examine her, no hearsay or leading questions were barred, and NO perjury was enforced! Add in the FACT there is NO corroborating evidence whatsoever for her claim and you get the picture!
Yet he kept on claiming her word or claim was SUPPORTIVE of his and Walt's claim that it was real!
“Then share it with us! Why are you running from the evidence Ben, I thought you said ONLY LNers did this? I guess Ben is proving he is a LNer for us! (Robert)
“If you try to deny that there's evidence that CE-133A is authentic, then you're just a stupid liar. A liar because clearly there *is* evidence that it's authentic, and stupid because anyone can quickly find it on their own.“ (Ben Holmes)
There is NO evidence showing it is authentic, there is ONLY Marina's claim to the WC that she took it on 3/31/63. There is NOT one piece of corroborating evidence to support this claim.
Furthermore, Ben used to know that Marina's testimony was NOT reliable. He has said this about her testimony before!
33) Marina's account of the blanket, rifle, etc., casts Oswald in an even more incriminating light. (Ed Cage)
“As you are well aware, Marina contradicted herself on almost everything she said. The fact that you're willing to accept her testimony in this case illustrates your bias.” (Ben Holmes)
He has said other comments about her testimony as well over the years like this!
“Oswald went to Mexico City to try to get a visa to go to Cuba. Any CT's care to refute this?” (Brandon Alexander)
“Again, I'd like to see this 'proven' first, before trying to 'demolish' it...no photo's, lack of original eyewitness testimony, voice recording *not* LHO's voice, bus ticket 'discovered' months later...to say nothing of the the admission by a former CIA man...that LHO was *not* in Mexico City. Really, anyone attempting to place LHO in Mexico has severe problems to overcome.
***Again, relying on Marina's testimony is not smart***.” (Ben Holmes – 12/4/97)
And yet, we now see Ben is the one who is BIASED AND NOT SMART as he puts his ENTIRE claim in her hands! As he did for the watch issue!
There is NO evidence showing ANY of the BYPs are genuine, let alone just one! They ALL have major issues with them so they are all either fake or real.
These two lie for the BENEFIT of the WC and yet they call me a troll! Lying about the evidence is what THEY DO, and it is a requirement for trolldom!
“Denial of the evidence is quite common among the trolls, indeed, it's one of the defining requirements of trolldom.” (Ben Holmes – 7/12/09)