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JDT's Car Movements
By Raymond Gallagher
2006
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From The Warren Commission:
"At about 12:44 p.m., on November 22, the radio dispatcher on Channel 1 ordered all downtown patrol squads to report to Elm and Houston, code 3 (emergency)." At 12:45, the dispatcher ordered No. 78 (Tippit) to "move into the Oak Cliff area." At about 12:45, Tippit reported that he was in the central Oak Cliff area at Lancaster and Eighth. The dispatcher then advised Tippit to "be at large for any emergency that comes in." (WE p. 165)
It is not sufficient to say that Tippit alone was ordered into the Oak Cliff section of Dallas at the height of excitement and bedlam. In the actual police transcript, the dispatcher orders two policemen into the Oak Cliff area at 12:45, No. 87 and No. 78. No 87 was patrolman R.C. Nelson. (see CE 1974, p.28)
After a close examination of the available evidence, it will become clear that there is reason to believe that no such order was dispatched that day.
In April 1964, pressure was put on Chief of Police Curry to explain Tippit's presence in District 91 where he was shot to death. This April request came after the WC had received two other transcripts of the Dallas transmissions supposedly made on 11-22-63. The Commission had hoped to find an explanation for Tippit's reason to be in District 91.
From Reasonable Doubt by Henry Hurt:
"The Warren Commission continued to struggle with the problem throughout the spring. It heard testimony from three supervisors from the Dallas Police Dept. who tried to explain why Tippit was in the wrong place. The reasons were purely speculative, vaguely suggesting the demonstrably absurd possibility that Tippit was heading for Dealey Plaza four miles away to be of assistance there. During this testimony, there never was any reference to the possibility that Tippit might have been ordered to central Oak Cliff by the radio dispatcher. And, of course, the three supervisors were quite aware of the intense effort being made to find an answer to the riddle.
The mystery remained unsolved until finally, in the spring, the WC requested and received a verbatim transcript - not one edited to include only transmissions related to Kennedy and Tippit. The Commission hoped that such a transcript might yield the elusive answer.
It must have been a stunning revelation for the commission to discover that the new transcripts contained, at least, the badly needed answer to the puzzle. According to the transcript - and supported by the actual tape-there was an order given to Tippit at 12:45 p.m., an inexplicable instruction believed to be unique in the Dallas Police Dept., it also had not been in the first transcript. Moreover, none of the police supervisors who testified earlier indicated that they knew anything about it. " (Hurt, p.160)
The first transcript submitted to the WC was SAWYER EXHIBIT A. There is no recognizable mention of Tippit or an order to "move into the Oak Cliff area."
The second transcript submitted, the 12:45 order directing him to Oak Cliff was CE 705. It simply says: " 87-78 move into Central Oak Cliff." There is no response by either officer."
The strange thing about the order is that Officer R.C. Nelson, No 87, is also instructed to move into Central Oak Cliff along with Tippit. Why would these two policemen be singled out to patrol a district that was already being patrolled by Officer Wm. D. Mentzel.
Also strange about the dispatch; neither officer responded to the dispatcher that they heard the order. The next time Nelson is heard from is at 12:52 when he signaled the dispatcher and informed him that he is " Out down here." At 1:22 Nelson again reports that he is at Elm and Houston, the site of the assassination.
In 1984, Henry Hurt interviewed R.C. Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana, Texas, where Nelson was then in private business. Nelson told the author that he had waited a long time to tell his story for the public record, but not without payment.
When Hurt asked Nelson: "Did you hear the dispatcher's order telling you to go there?" Nelson replied, "I'm not sure what you mean. I had rather not talk about that." He then told Hurt that he considered that to be part of the story he was willing to negotiate. Hurt never did get an answer. He was not willing to pay Nelson. (HURT, pp. 161-62-63)
Sgt. Calvin Owens, J.D.'s supervisor for ten years was no help in explaining the officer's movements. Owens , who was in his car at 12:45, when the order was allegedly given, did not know that Tippit had been moved. He was surprised to learn that J.D.was in District 91 and went there when the officer was shot. At 1:33 Owens contacted the dispatcher and asked him :" Do you know what kind of a call he was on?" The dispatcher answered "What kind of what?" Owens asked, "Was he on a call or anything?" The dispatcher answered, "NO."
Also see:
The picture presented to the public by the DPD and the WC would appear to be the perfect family living in harmony with the world, but even before the revelations of J.D's adulterous conduct by the HSC in 1977, there was an indication that something was wrong at 238 Glencarin, the home of the Tippits. Heard on the police radio transcripts shortly after Tippit was pronounced dead at Methodist Hospital- the following communication:
CALLER MESSAGE
210 Has anyone made arrangements or picked up Tippit's wife yet?
Dispatcher: I'm not sure 210
210 If you give me his address, I will go go there and pick her up. I do not have anybody to send right now.
210 I'll call 505 for the address.
Dispatcher 10:4, 1:51 pm.
At 1:56 pm
210 ; I'm downtown. J.D.Tippit lives at 7500 So. Beckley. I'm running Code 2 (URGENT) TO HIS WIFE'S HOUSE
Dispatcher: Yes, go ahead. 1: 56 pm.
The 1963 Dallas City Directory listed the name of John E. Boone as
the resident of 7500 So. Beckley. Telephone CA 43847.
Occupation: Press Operator at the Dallas Times Herald.
The above transcript can be found: CE 705, Vol. 17, PP. 471-472-473.
The only reasonable answer to the tape discrepancies is that the tapes were altered to place Tippit in the district where he died without admitting his reason for being there. There is lots more evidence to prove that the tapes were altered, but it would require far too much time and space on this forum to accomplish.
Was Tippit on his own and looking for Oswald to kill him? Probably. When Marina asked Lee, at the police station, why he shot the policeman, Lee told her: "It was kill or be killed."
Where was Tippit? Was he downtown in his own car (A blue and white Oldsmobile that the FBI was interested in when they interviewed his girlfriend, Johnnie Witherspoon?
Was Tippit down there to pick up Oswald to transport him to Ruby's apartment?
Johnnie Maxie Witherspoon was interviewed in her home on 9-24-77 by Jack Moriarity and two other members of the House Select Committee. At the time she was unemployed.
Information collected at that time:
Date of birth: 10-10-34, Height 5'1", Weight 130, Eyes: Blue, Hair,
Blonde.
Wears glasses and is right-handed.
Had been Tippit's girlfriend 1961-1963
Husband in 1963: Stephen Thompson Jr.
Thompson "is remarried. He and wife have a nightclub and love it now. They had been in the antique business."
"Tippit had shown an interest in another female employee at Austin's barbeque by the name of Clara Jo Monk, a car hop and waitress. (Married to a truck driver)."
The investigators were especially interested in the station wagon that J.D. had bought while the two were dating.
Moriarity: " During that time J.D. Tippit bought what may have been a new station wagon, may have been a Pontiac and it might have been the color blue, is that right?"
It might have been an Oldsmobile
Johnnie: "To the best that I can remember, yes."
Moriarity: "Would this have been about a 1963, if you recall, or a 62? I know it was within that three-year period but was this toward the end of your relationship or at the beginning of it?"
Johnnie: " Closer to the end of it I believe."
I think that they were interested in the station wagon because a station wagon fitting that description was seen driving around the TSBD before the motorcade entered Dealey Plaza. However, it was described as an Oldsmobile.
Johnnie's mother, Verda Mae Herell, was interviewed on 3-14-78. Verda worked at the Clifton Towers Coffee Shop located on Ballard (one block from the Dobbs House where LHO stopped for breakfast. Lee had also eaten at her place of employment.)
Verda: "He was a regular dinner customer. He never talked to anyone except to her when he ordered his regular hamburger platter and left a 25-cent tip."
Her boss was Zerrell Owen. Verda said that there were few tears when JFK was killed because they "were all Republicans."
Also working there was a "black boy cook" Amos, about 16, whose parents, brother and sister worked there. On 11-22-63, the police called advising that they were holding Amos as a witness as he saw JFK shot.
Verda knew Tippit well. She used to sit in a booth and talk to J.D. about raising kids. "He was interested in the subject..." She was aware of his three jobs and said "the saddest aspect of the entire tragedy was the development of the older son in the wrong direction. It happened from the moment of J.D's. death."
Austin Cook, owner of Austin's BBQ where JD worked. Cook admitted to FBI, without any hesitation, that he was a member of the John Birch Society. At one time he and Bert Bowman were partners at place on West Illinois they called the Bull Pen. In 1958 Bowman bought out his share of the establishment and took the name Bull Pen with him. Austin renamed the place Austin's BBQ.
Ralph Paul, Ruby's pal, bought the Bull Pen from Bowman. It was Bowmans that allowed Ralph Paul to stay in their home while Paul's house was under construction and where Paul was living at time of the assassination.
Maebert Leolla Cook, former wife of Austin, told investigators that "Ralph Paul was a mutual friend of the Cooks and Jack Ruby.
"When you live your life with an appreciation of coincidences and their meanings, you connect with the underlying field of infinite possibilities."
By Raymond Gallagher
2006
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From The Warren Commission:
"At about 12:44 p.m., on November 22, the radio dispatcher on Channel 1 ordered all downtown patrol squads to report to Elm and Houston, code 3 (emergency)." At 12:45, the dispatcher ordered No. 78 (Tippit) to "move into the Oak Cliff area." At about 12:45, Tippit reported that he was in the central Oak Cliff area at Lancaster and Eighth. The dispatcher then advised Tippit to "be at large for any emergency that comes in." (WE p. 165)
It is not sufficient to say that Tippit alone was ordered into the Oak Cliff section of Dallas at the height of excitement and bedlam. In the actual police transcript, the dispatcher orders two policemen into the Oak Cliff area at 12:45, No. 87 and No. 78. No 87 was patrolman R.C. Nelson. (see CE 1974, p.28)
After a close examination of the available evidence, it will become clear that there is reason to believe that no such order was dispatched that day.
In April 1964, pressure was put on Chief of Police Curry to explain Tippit's presence in District 91 where he was shot to death. This April request came after the WC had received two other transcripts of the Dallas transmissions supposedly made on 11-22-63. The Commission had hoped to find an explanation for Tippit's reason to be in District 91.
From Reasonable Doubt by Henry Hurt:
"The Warren Commission continued to struggle with the problem throughout the spring. It heard testimony from three supervisors from the Dallas Police Dept. who tried to explain why Tippit was in the wrong place. The reasons were purely speculative, vaguely suggesting the demonstrably absurd possibility that Tippit was heading for Dealey Plaza four miles away to be of assistance there. During this testimony, there never was any reference to the possibility that Tippit might have been ordered to central Oak Cliff by the radio dispatcher. And, of course, the three supervisors were quite aware of the intense effort being made to find an answer to the riddle.
The mystery remained unsolved until finally, in the spring, the WC requested and received a verbatim transcript - not one edited to include only transmissions related to Kennedy and Tippit. The Commission hoped that such a transcript might yield the elusive answer.
It must have been a stunning revelation for the commission to discover that the new transcripts contained, at least, the badly needed answer to the puzzle. According to the transcript - and supported by the actual tape-there was an order given to Tippit at 12:45 p.m., an inexplicable instruction believed to be unique in the Dallas Police Dept., it also had not been in the first transcript. Moreover, none of the police supervisors who testified earlier indicated that they knew anything about it. " (Hurt, p.160)
The first transcript submitted to the WC was SAWYER EXHIBIT A. There is no recognizable mention of Tippit or an order to "move into the Oak Cliff area."
The second transcript submitted, the 12:45 order directing him to Oak Cliff was CE 705. It simply says: " 87-78 move into Central Oak Cliff." There is no response by either officer."
The strange thing about the order is that Officer R.C. Nelson, No 87, is also instructed to move into Central Oak Cliff along with Tippit. Why would these two policemen be singled out to patrol a district that was already being patrolled by Officer Wm. D. Mentzel.
Also strange about the dispatch; neither officer responded to the dispatcher that they heard the order. The next time Nelson is heard from is at 12:52 when he signaled the dispatcher and informed him that he is " Out down here." At 1:22 Nelson again reports that he is at Elm and Houston, the site of the assassination.
In 1984, Henry Hurt interviewed R.C. Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana, Texas, where Nelson was then in private business. Nelson told the author that he had waited a long time to tell his story for the public record, but not without payment.
When Hurt asked Nelson: "Did you hear the dispatcher's order telling you to go there?" Nelson replied, "I'm not sure what you mean. I had rather not talk about that." He then told Hurt that he considered that to be part of the story he was willing to negotiate. Hurt never did get an answer. He was not willing to pay Nelson. (HURT, pp. 161-62-63)
Sgt. Calvin Owens, J.D.'s supervisor for ten years was no help in explaining the officer's movements. Owens , who was in his car at 12:45, when the order was allegedly given, did not know that Tippit had been moved. He was surprised to learn that J.D.was in District 91 and went there when the officer was shot. At 1:33 Owens contacted the dispatcher and asked him :" Do you know what kind of a call he was on?" The dispatcher answered "What kind of what?" Owens asked, "Was he on a call or anything?" The dispatcher answered, "NO."
Also see:
The picture presented to the public by the DPD and the WC would appear to be the perfect family living in harmony with the world, but even before the revelations of J.D's adulterous conduct by the HSC in 1977, there was an indication that something was wrong at 238 Glencarin, the home of the Tippits. Heard on the police radio transcripts shortly after Tippit was pronounced dead at Methodist Hospital- the following communication:
CALLER MESSAGE
210 Has anyone made arrangements or picked up Tippit's wife yet?
Dispatcher: I'm not sure 210
210 If you give me his address, I will go go there and pick her up. I do not have anybody to send right now.
210 I'll call 505 for the address.
Dispatcher 10:4, 1:51 pm.
At 1:56 pm
210 ; I'm downtown. J.D.Tippit lives at 7500 So. Beckley. I'm running Code 2 (URGENT) TO HIS WIFE'S HOUSE
Dispatcher: Yes, go ahead. 1: 56 pm.
The 1963 Dallas City Directory listed the name of John E. Boone as
the resident of 7500 So. Beckley. Telephone CA 43847.
Occupation: Press Operator at the Dallas Times Herald.
The above transcript can be found: CE 705, Vol. 17, PP. 471-472-473.
The only reasonable answer to the tape discrepancies is that the tapes were altered to place Tippit in the district where he died without admitting his reason for being there. There is lots more evidence to prove that the tapes were altered, but it would require far too much time and space on this forum to accomplish.
Was Tippit on his own and looking for Oswald to kill him? Probably. When Marina asked Lee, at the police station, why he shot the policeman, Lee told her: "It was kill or be killed."
Where was Tippit? Was he downtown in his own car (A blue and white Oldsmobile that the FBI was interested in when they interviewed his girlfriend, Johnnie Witherspoon?
Was Tippit down there to pick up Oswald to transport him to Ruby's apartment?
Johnnie Maxie Witherspoon was interviewed in her home on 9-24-77 by Jack Moriarity and two other members of the House Select Committee. At the time she was unemployed.
Information collected at that time:
Date of birth: 10-10-34, Height 5'1", Weight 130, Eyes: Blue, Hair,
Blonde.
Wears glasses and is right-handed.
Had been Tippit's girlfriend 1961-1963
Husband in 1963: Stephen Thompson Jr.
Thompson "is remarried. He and wife have a nightclub and love it now. They had been in the antique business."
"Tippit had shown an interest in another female employee at Austin's barbeque by the name of Clara Jo Monk, a car hop and waitress. (Married to a truck driver)."
The investigators were especially interested in the station wagon that J.D. had bought while the two were dating.
Moriarity: " During that time J.D. Tippit bought what may have been a new station wagon, may have been a Pontiac and it might have been the color blue, is that right?"
It might have been an Oldsmobile
Johnnie: "To the best that I can remember, yes."
Moriarity: "Would this have been about a 1963, if you recall, or a 62? I know it was within that three-year period but was this toward the end of your relationship or at the beginning of it?"
Johnnie: " Closer to the end of it I believe."
I think that they were interested in the station wagon because a station wagon fitting that description was seen driving around the TSBD before the motorcade entered Dealey Plaza. However, it was described as an Oldsmobile.
Johnnie's mother, Verda Mae Herell, was interviewed on 3-14-78. Verda worked at the Clifton Towers Coffee Shop located on Ballard (one block from the Dobbs House where LHO stopped for breakfast. Lee had also eaten at her place of employment.)
Verda: "He was a regular dinner customer. He never talked to anyone except to her when he ordered his regular hamburger platter and left a 25-cent tip."
Her boss was Zerrell Owen. Verda said that there were few tears when JFK was killed because they "were all Republicans."
Also working there was a "black boy cook" Amos, about 16, whose parents, brother and sister worked there. On 11-22-63, the police called advising that they were holding Amos as a witness as he saw JFK shot.
Verda knew Tippit well. She used to sit in a booth and talk to J.D. about raising kids. "He was interested in the subject..." She was aware of his three jobs and said "the saddest aspect of the entire tragedy was the development of the older son in the wrong direction. It happened from the moment of J.D's. death."
Austin Cook, owner of Austin's BBQ where JD worked. Cook admitted to FBI, without any hesitation, that he was a member of the John Birch Society. At one time he and Bert Bowman were partners at place on West Illinois they called the Bull Pen. In 1958 Bowman bought out his share of the establishment and took the name Bull Pen with him. Austin renamed the place Austin's BBQ.
Ralph Paul, Ruby's pal, bought the Bull Pen from Bowman. It was Bowmans that allowed Ralph Paul to stay in their home while Paul's house was under construction and where Paul was living at time of the assassination.
Maebert Leolla Cook, former wife of Austin, told investigators that "Ralph Paul was a mutual friend of the Cooks and Jack Ruby.
"When you live your life with an appreciation of coincidences and their meanings, you connect with the underlying field of infinite possibilities."