Post by Rob Caprio on Apr 11, 2022 20:53:42 GMT -5
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) assassinated President John F. Kennedy (JFK), shot and killed Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit (JDT), wounded Texas Governor John B. Connally (JBC) and attempted to kill retired General Edwin Walker. The evidence supporting these claims is absent from the WC’s twenty-six volumes of exhibits and testimony however, therefore, this has left many questions for us today. I have asked so many questions in this series already, and now it is time for more.
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Why Was A CIA Memorandum Concerning Comments Reportedly Made By George & Jeanne De Mohrenschildt Withheld From The WC’s Report (WCR)?
If we look at Commission Document (CD) 1222 we find some interesting things. On the first page it says this about George De Mohrenschildt.
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George De Mohrenschildt was described as having a bad temper and as being a heavy drinker. (CD 1222, p. 1)
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Who did the CIA speak with in obtaining this information? It would be nice to know. A bad temper is something of importance here as it can make people do things that they normally wouldn’t do. What could De Mohrenschildt have done that we don’t know about?
The second page has an even more interesting comment on it.
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b. At a social gathering in Haiti in early June 1964, the De Mohrenschildts said that when they knew Lee Harvey OSWALD, he was a very confused and disturbed young man. They described OSWALD’s wife as being a very vicious and evil woman. Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT said that Mrs. OSWALD discussed openly and frankly her marital sex life and often complained about her husband’s sexual inadequacy. The De Mohrenschildts felt that this is what provoked OSWALD into doing what he did. (Ibid., p. 2)
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The comment about LHO being disturbed goes against all the evidence presented, and even his own comments years later. The new things in this quote relate to Marina Oswald and not LHO. Here it is stated that the De Mohrenschildts said that she was “very vicious and evil woman.” I have never read this before. It has an impact on everything that she said against LHO if true. The closest that we get to any comment about this is this exchange in George De Mohrenschildt’s testimony.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall making this statement in the letter: "Since we lived in Dallas permanently last year and before, we had the misfortune to have met Oswald, and especially his wife Marina, sometime last fall."
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. What do you mean by the misfortune to have met Oswald and especially his wife Marina?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, now, since all this happened, it causes--it is not pleasant to have known the possible assassin of the President of the United States. And since he is dead, it doesn't matter. But we still know Marina. We had the misfortune of knowing her--it caused us no end of difficulty, from every point of view.
This is as far as he would go however. He kept avoiding saying what was supposedly said in CD 1222. Perhaps he too was aware, or made aware, of the damage this could do to the WC’s star witness.
The next comment about LHO’s supposed sexual deficiency was discussed in Jeanne De Mohrenschildt’s testimony.
Mr. JENNER. What were the reasons she said why she was dissatisfied with him?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Oh, there was quite a few reasons. And I tell you---it was strange for me to hear from a young girl like that to speak so, how you say it--so boldy, about sex, for instance. I was shocked by it, you know--because in my times, even I was twice as old as she.
Mr. JENNER. Will you please tell me what she said?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, she said her husband doesn't satisfy her. She just--and he is just too busy with his things, he doesn't pay enough attention to her.
Mr. JENNER. That was one reason?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. That is one of the main reasons, yes…Another complaint, sexwise, he wasn't satisfactory for her. In fact, she was almost sick that she wasn't getting enough sex, which I never heard of before. I didn't know such things can happen to people, you know.
Mr. JENNER. You have testified for quite awhile. Now, tell me what kind of a person she was? What is your definite impression now? You have told me she told you about these wild orgies. When you use that expression I assume they were parties of----
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Sexual orgies. I mean the things that would never occur to us…[She was] , not malicious, promiscuous, you know.
This testimony seems to point to Jeanne De Mohrenschildt thinking that Marina Oswald was a sex addict and that LHO did not satisfy her desire. She says that Marina said that she had participated in “wild orgies” in Minsk. If LHO was so inadequate, why did she agree to marry him?
The WC steered her of course to saying that Marina was honest and not malicious as again they couldn’t afford any damage to their star witness. At one point she was going to say something about how her opinion had changed about Marina’s motives after reading an article in the newspaper, but the WC lawyer told her not to let anything that she read in the newspaper affect her opinion. Where was this admonishment for all the witnesses who accused LHO because they read that he was guilty in the newspaper?
We see further confirmation of this sexual desire by Marina Oswald in George De Mohrenschildt’s WC testimony.
Mr. JENNER. What impression, if you have any, do you have with respect to his sexual habits? Did you ever have any thoughts?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. As to whether he was a homosexual?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No.
Mr. JENNER. He was not in your opinion?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't think so, I think he was an asexual person, asexual, and as I told you before, Marina was bitterly complaining about her lack of satisfaction. This is really the time that we decided just to drop them you see. One of the reasons you see we decided not to see them again, because we both found it revolting, such a discussion of marital habits in front of relative strangers as we were, see.
Mr. JENNER. And this occurred more than once?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. You see this occurred probably in the first period when we knew Oswald. You know there was a first period when we knew them, until about October. Then we didn't see them any more, and I think it was caused by many factors you know. We just got tired of them. We didn't like them. We did not like this particular remark about sex life, and other things you know. We just were not interested in them, and then the fact that she returned back to Oswald, see what I mean, after we had taken her away from him, that she went back to him that disgusted us.
We told her, "Now we helped you. We are not going to do anything more about you." And we didn't see them in October, November, December, see.
We again see that Marina Oswald was not satisfied with LHO sexually, and we see that she supposedly left him for a time as De Mohrenschildt says that they were disgusted that she went back to him. They told LHO that they were taking Marina and the baby because he had hit her. De Mohrenschildt then makes an interesting comment when he inquired about Marina’s claim of him hitting her.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. …Possibly we had then in the house and discussed it, and I told him he should not do things like that, and he said, "It is my business"--that is one of the few times that he was a little bit uppity with me.
Uppity? This is a term used when someone of a lower social/professional standard talks back to a person of a higher social/professional level. We are not suppose to have social classes in America, thus, could the usage of this word been a slip by De Mohrenschildt? Was he LHO’s superior in a professional way?
We again see evidence that calls into question the official narrative, therefore, their conclusion is sunk once more.
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) assassinated President John F. Kennedy (JFK), shot and killed Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit (JDT), wounded Texas Governor John B. Connally (JBC) and attempted to kill retired General Edwin Walker. The evidence supporting these claims is absent from the WC’s twenty-six volumes of exhibits and testimony however, therefore, this has left many questions for us today. I have asked so many questions in this series already, and now it is time for more.
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Why Was A CIA Memorandum Concerning Comments Reportedly Made By George & Jeanne De Mohrenschildt Withheld From The WC’s Report (WCR)?
If we look at Commission Document (CD) 1222 we find some interesting things. On the first page it says this about George De Mohrenschildt.
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George De Mohrenschildt was described as having a bad temper and as being a heavy drinker. (CD 1222, p. 1)
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11617#relPageId=2&tab=page
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Who did the CIA speak with in obtaining this information? It would be nice to know. A bad temper is something of importance here as it can make people do things that they normally wouldn’t do. What could De Mohrenschildt have done that we don’t know about?
The second page has an even more interesting comment on it.
Quote on
b. At a social gathering in Haiti in early June 1964, the De Mohrenschildts said that when they knew Lee Harvey OSWALD, he was a very confused and disturbed young man. They described OSWALD’s wife as being a very vicious and evil woman. Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT said that Mrs. OSWALD discussed openly and frankly her marital sex life and often complained about her husband’s sexual inadequacy. The De Mohrenschildts felt that this is what provoked OSWALD into doing what he did. (Ibid., p. 2)
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11617#relPageId=3&tab=page
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The comment about LHO being disturbed goes against all the evidence presented, and even his own comments years later. The new things in this quote relate to Marina Oswald and not LHO. Here it is stated that the De Mohrenschildts said that she was “very vicious and evil woman.” I have never read this before. It has an impact on everything that she said against LHO if true. The closest that we get to any comment about this is this exchange in George De Mohrenschildt’s testimony.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall making this statement in the letter: "Since we lived in Dallas permanently last year and before, we had the misfortune to have met Oswald, and especially his wife Marina, sometime last fall."
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. What do you mean by the misfortune to have met Oswald and especially his wife Marina?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, now, since all this happened, it causes--it is not pleasant to have known the possible assassin of the President of the United States. And since he is dead, it doesn't matter. But we still know Marina. We had the misfortune of knowing her--it caused us no end of difficulty, from every point of view.
This is as far as he would go however. He kept avoiding saying what was supposedly said in CD 1222. Perhaps he too was aware, or made aware, of the damage this could do to the WC’s star witness.
The next comment about LHO’s supposed sexual deficiency was discussed in Jeanne De Mohrenschildt’s testimony.
Mr. JENNER. What were the reasons she said why she was dissatisfied with him?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Oh, there was quite a few reasons. And I tell you---it was strange for me to hear from a young girl like that to speak so, how you say it--so boldy, about sex, for instance. I was shocked by it, you know--because in my times, even I was twice as old as she.
Mr. JENNER. Will you please tell me what she said?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, she said her husband doesn't satisfy her. She just--and he is just too busy with his things, he doesn't pay enough attention to her.
Mr. JENNER. That was one reason?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. That is one of the main reasons, yes…Another complaint, sexwise, he wasn't satisfactory for her. In fact, she was almost sick that she wasn't getting enough sex, which I never heard of before. I didn't know such things can happen to people, you know.
Mr. JENNER. You have testified for quite awhile. Now, tell me what kind of a person she was? What is your definite impression now? You have told me she told you about these wild orgies. When you use that expression I assume they were parties of----
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Sexual orgies. I mean the things that would never occur to us…[She was] , not malicious, promiscuous, you know.
This testimony seems to point to Jeanne De Mohrenschildt thinking that Marina Oswald was a sex addict and that LHO did not satisfy her desire. She says that Marina said that she had participated in “wild orgies” in Minsk. If LHO was so inadequate, why did she agree to marry him?
The WC steered her of course to saying that Marina was honest and not malicious as again they couldn’t afford any damage to their star witness. At one point she was going to say something about how her opinion had changed about Marina’s motives after reading an article in the newspaper, but the WC lawyer told her not to let anything that she read in the newspaper affect her opinion. Where was this admonishment for all the witnesses who accused LHO because they read that he was guilty in the newspaper?
We see further confirmation of this sexual desire by Marina Oswald in George De Mohrenschildt’s WC testimony.
Mr. JENNER. What impression, if you have any, do you have with respect to his sexual habits? Did you ever have any thoughts?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. As to whether he was a homosexual?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No.
Mr. JENNER. He was not in your opinion?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't think so, I think he was an asexual person, asexual, and as I told you before, Marina was bitterly complaining about her lack of satisfaction. This is really the time that we decided just to drop them you see. One of the reasons you see we decided not to see them again, because we both found it revolting, such a discussion of marital habits in front of relative strangers as we were, see.
Mr. JENNER. And this occurred more than once?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. You see this occurred probably in the first period when we knew Oswald. You know there was a first period when we knew them, until about October. Then we didn't see them any more, and I think it was caused by many factors you know. We just got tired of them. We didn't like them. We did not like this particular remark about sex life, and other things you know. We just were not interested in them, and then the fact that she returned back to Oswald, see what I mean, after we had taken her away from him, that she went back to him that disgusted us.
We told her, "Now we helped you. We are not going to do anything more about you." And we didn't see them in October, November, December, see.
We again see that Marina Oswald was not satisfied with LHO sexually, and we see that she supposedly left him for a time as De Mohrenschildt says that they were disgusted that she went back to him. They told LHO that they were taking Marina and the baby because he had hit her. De Mohrenschildt then makes an interesting comment when he inquired about Marina’s claim of him hitting her.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. …Possibly we had then in the house and discussed it, and I told him he should not do things like that, and he said, "It is my business"--that is one of the few times that he was a little bit uppity with me.
Uppity? This is a term used when someone of a lower social/professional standard talks back to a person of a higher social/professional level. We are not suppose to have social classes in America, thus, could the usage of this word been a slip by De Mohrenschildt? Was he LHO’s superior in a professional way?
We again see evidence that calls into question the official narrative, therefore, their conclusion is sunk once more.