Post by Rob Caprio on May 14, 2022 15:18:55 GMT -5
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) had shot and killed President John F. Kennedy (JFK) and Dallas Police officer J.D. Tippit (JDT) all by himself on November 22, 1963. They also made a ton of other claims that were equally UNSUPPORTED by the evidence in the twenty-six volumes of Hearings and Exhibits.
This post will look at some more odd things that the WC failed to deal with and mislead us about.
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With an investigation as large as this one it should be a no-brainer that they got some basic things right, but the WC continually showed this was NOT the case. Things as simple as what hand LHO favored seem to be full of conjecture when we examine the evidence. The same goes for where Jack Ruby lived.
According to Jack Ruby’s roommate George Senator the address Ruby lived at on November 22, 1963, was 223 South Ewing Street [Senator lived at 225 South Ewing Street].
Mr. HUBERT. And how long did you stay with Corbat?
Mr. SENATOR. When I went in with Corbat, of course, he only had a one-bedroom apartment and I had to sleep on the couch again….that just as soon as I get a little extra money I want to get a two-bedroom apartment and that is where I moved into this last apartment, 225 South Ewing.
Mr. HUBERT. That was about when?
Mr. SENATOR. I moved in there, I believe it was the latter part of November of 1962, we found a nice two-bedroom apartment that was very reasonable. I told Jack about it and Jack moved next door.
Mr. HUBERT. But he moved later than you, didn't he?
Mr. SENATOR. Well, see, I moved in first.
Mr. HUBERT. And that was in November of 1962?
Mr. SENATOR. I believe it was the latter part of November of 1962.
Mr. HUBERT. When did Ruby move in?
Mr. SENATOR. He moved in around that same time.
So this seems pretty clear cut, Senator stayed at 225 South Ewing and Ruby’s place was listed as 223 South Ewing Street. Not so fast as we see another address listed for Ruby on various documents. For example, Commission Exhibit (CE) 2003, p. 331 shows the address of 3929 Rawlins Street.
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We also see this address on the receipt for Jack Ruby’s things. Look at the form on the right of the page.
CE 2003, p. 346:
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What was this address? It was the address where his sister, Eva Grant, resided.
Mr. HUBERT. And where do you reside?
Mrs. GRANT. 3929 Rawlins, Dallas, Tex.
Why would formal Dallas Police Department (DPD) documents reflect Eva Grant’s address for Jack Ruby? Could it be that the WC wanted to hide the fact that Ruby’s apartment was located in Oak Cliff and very near the scene of the murder of JDT? Could it be because they wanted to hide the fact Ruby’s apartment was NOT that far from LHO’s roominghouse?
It would be said, and left for us to think, that Ruby had moved from his apartment earlier when an entertainer at the Carousel gave testimony (William Crowe, a.k.a. Bill DeMar).
Mr. HUBERT. Do you know a man by the name of Hugh Reed who ran the place? All right, sir, you drove into the garage?
Mr. CROWE. And a newspaperman drove up front, and television drove up across the street, and the newspaperman, I think, and somebody else, and they started to ask the garage attendant if he knew where Jack Ruby lived, and I came forward and I said I knew where he lived, at least I thought I did, but I didn't know he had moved, so I didn't know actually.
Mr. HUBERT. But in any case you gave them an address?
Mr. CROWE. Well, I didn't know the address but I knew how to get there.
Mr. HUBERT. I see.
Mr. CROWE. And I went out with some newspaper reporter in his Volkswagen and drove out to the apartment out by the zoo where he used to stay.
Mr. HUBERT. Then you found he was not there?
Mr. CROWE. Not there, he had moved.
Jack Ruby had NOT moved as he is saying as he was still living at 223 South Ewing Street on the day of the assassination. It seems the WC was happy to let this stay in the mind of the reader as they did NOT want the reader thinking how close Ruby’s apartment was to the murder scene of JDT and the roominghouse of LHO. That may cause some to ask questions best left unasked.
Another odd thing is why do we see a Patrolman being ordered to take mail to JDT’s widow at one point, but then being called back from doing so? In CE 2030 we read the following.
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Patrolman Gerald Springer...advised that on Sunday, November 24, 1963, he was in a patrol car…he stated that a call came on the radio for any cars who were unassigned to check in the radio…he was instructed to come to Central Headquarters and to report to the Chief’s office for assignment.
He stated this was at approximately 10:30 a.m. as nearly as he can recall...When he arrived on the third floor, Patrolman Art Hammett advised him to pick up some telegrams and other mail and deliver it to Mrs. Tippit, the wife of the slain policeman.
...He left the third floor...got in his car, pulled out of the police station, and was in the vicinity of Ervay and Jackson Streets when he received a call on the radio to report back to the Central Police Station...He went back to the third floor and Patrolman Hammett told him to disregard his assignment, that they would take the mail and so forth out to Mrs. Tippit later on. He went back to the basement, contacted Sergeant Putnam and asked if there was anything he wanted him to do. Sergeant Putnam told him there was nothing for him to do...(CE 2030, p. 442)
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Since Springer had nothing else to do, why was he told to come back and forget delivering this mail to Mrs. Tippit? Also, why was Springer called in to do something someone else had been tasked with earlier in the morning, but apparently had not done? We see this in Sergeant Don Steele’s testimony.
Mr. HUBERT. And the---
Sergeant STEELE. And the 24th, of course, the regular assignment is in the Oak Cliff area, and I reported to that assignment.
Mr. HUBERT. Were you moved from that assignment?
Sergeant STEELE. I came to the city hall, came to the police station downtown early that morning to pick up some correspondence, telegrams, and things like that, to take to Officer Tippit's widow.
Mr. HUBERT. And what time was that?
Sergeant STEELE. That was approximately 9:15.
Mr. HUBERT. What happened after that?
Sergeant STEELE. Well, the captain was bringing in some of the patrolmen from in the field, from all the stations, and I asked Lieutenant Pierce if there was anything he needed me to do before I left, and he said, "Well--" told me I'd better stick around for a while. He might need me.
Why was Steele not allowed to do this assignment? Why was Springer then called in twice in the timeframe shortly before the shooting of LHO? IF you read the full document (CE 2030) I linked to you will see that both times Springer drove his car down the MAIN STREET RAMP past Officer Roy Vaughn! Was his calling in twice a method of creating a distraction to allow something to happen? Since the WC lawyer, Hubert, was NOT aware of Springer’s report to the FBI (based on no mention of it) he did not pursue it. Neither Springer or Hammett (the man Springer spoke with and one of Chief Curry’s assistant) were called to explore this further.
Who was the unknown man with the limp mentioned in an earlier post? He came by soon after LHO was shot (about 15 minutes) according to Police Reserve Officer Logan Mayo. Mayo said he was a large man who was slightly bald and who walked with a slight limp. He came into the building looking to visit Ruby and he said he was Ruby’s roommate. He explained that Ruby had a large sum of money on his person and he wanted to see if Ruby wanted him to take the money and hold it for him. As we know Ruby did have a large sum of money on him when he shot LHO, but Ruby’s roommate did not match this description and he had gone to the home of lawyer James Martin. George Senator would not visit Ruby until later in the afternoon on November 24, 1963. So, who was this man that was directed to Lieutenant J.R. Gilmore?
Mayo would describe him as follows in his WC testimony.
Mr. MAYO. I went to the other side, and a large gentleman, well, he was slightly bald, weighed over 200 pounds, and walked with a limp. He came up to me and then said that he was a roommate of Jack Ruby, and that he wanted to go down and talk to him. And I told him he could not enter. I asked him what was the nature of his business and he said that Mr. Ruby had quite a sum of money on his person and he wanted to go down there and see if he wanted him to handle it for him. I told him he couldn't go down and he stayed up around there about 20 or 30 minutes, and finally went on down Main Street.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he give you his name?
Mr. MAYO. I didn't ask him his name. He didn't give me his name. I told him he couldn't enter--and he walked with a limp. I remember that. He was a large fellow. Had no tie on and slightly bald. No hat on.
Mr. HUBERT. And he claimed to be a roommate of Jack Ruby?
Mr. MAYO. Jack Ruby; yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Could you describe him otherwise, his hair, his height----
Mr. MAYO. I'd say he was over 6 feet tall, and much heavier than I am.
Due to an oversight by Lieutenant Jack Revill this encounter did not get into the report Mayo did.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you recall his statement to you, Mayo to you, that after the shooting when Mayo was stationed in the Main Street ramp that there was a man who came to Mayo, I think, identified himself as Ruby's roommate, and was trying to get in to see Ruby, that being after the shooting. Do you recall that Mayo reported that during the course of the interview?
Lieutenant REVILL. It seems like I do recall Mayo saying something like that, and I believe he referred this man to Lieutenant Gilmore of the Special Service Bureau. I believe he told me that, but I don't see it here and I don't know why we omitted that, but I think we--I do recall him making such a statement. George Senator, I believe he would have been the individual.
Mr. HUBERT. But, you do not recall right now why it was not made a part of the interview?
Lieutenant REVILL. Just an oversight on my part. It should have been listed here.
We have no way of knowing if he ever was taken to Lt. Gilmore since was not questioned, so it would seem highly doubtful he was ever taken to see Jack Ruby. Still, who was this man? He came just 15 minutes after Ruby shot LHO, so this is an awful fast reaction for anyone to have IF they heard of the news through the media or word of mouth. This type of quick reaction seems more fitting for someone who had knowledge of what Ruby was going to do IMO.
A second “great big fellow” would try and visit Ruby on that day not too long after he shot LHO. He was encountered by Officer Roy Vaughn who had been stationed on the Main Street ramp.
Mr. HUBERT. I think you said that there was one person who came a little later after the shooting who wanted to see Ruby?
Mr. VAUGHN. Yes--this was after--oh, I would say it was approximately an hour or almost an hour after the shooting.
Mr. HUBERT. What did he look like?
Mr. VAUGHN. He was a great big fellow. Now, I would say he was in the middle twenties or late twenties.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he say to you he wanted to see Ruby?
Mr. VAUGHN. No, sir--who he actually walked up and asked for--he walked up and I overheard the conversation, if I recall, with one of the reserve officers--they had sent some reserve officers up before that time to help with the traffic and the crowd and I overheard the conversation--he said he was an employee of Jack Ruby's….He said, "Well, I am an employee of Jack Ruby's," and he said, "I would like to talk to lieutenant--" I believe he said Cunningham--I'm not real sure I'm not positive now. Anyway, I asked him then what the deal was and he said, "He just needed to talk to him," and I felt possibly--by that time I had found out actually that Jack Ruby had shot him, and I felt possibly maybe someone wanted to talk to him, and a reserve relieved me on the entrance of the ramp and I went and took this man to the information desk in the basement and I called the homicide bureau and told Detective Boyd--I don't recall if he is the one that answered the phone, but I told whoever it was what the circumstances was, and Detective Boyd come down to the basement and he started searching this man and I helped him search him for any kind of a concealed weapon he might have and I turned him over to him and I left. I don't know the man's name, but he said he was an employee of Jack's.
Mr. HUBERT. Was he a heavy man, you say?
Mr. VAUGHN. He was quite a big man.
Mr. HUBERT. How old would he be?
Mr. VAUGHN. I would say he was in the middle twenties or late twenties.
Mr. HUBERT. How tall was he?
Mr. VAUGHN. Oh, he was about 6 foot 3 or 4---he was a tall man, but I believe he was heavier.
Mr. HUBERT. What would you say he weighed?
Mr. VAUGHN. Oh, I would say he weighed around 250.
One can’t help but think of the “very large man” both Philip Hathaway and John Lawrence saw on the day of the assassination walking with a rifle when they read this description by Vaughn. Could this have been the same man?
It had been alleged that Ruby had been friends with a Kenneth Spivey, but Spivey denied this, and if we look at a description of Spivey in CE 1458 we will see the following.
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Name: Kenneth Wayne Spivey
Sex: Male
Race: White
Date of Birth: March 29, 1939, Dallas, Texas
Height: 6’3”
Weight: 220 pounds
Hair: Blond
Eyes: Hazel
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This certainly matches the description given by Vaughn, but as I said Spivey told the FBI in an interview on December 18, 1963, that he had no acquaintanceship with Ruby. The point is though the WC decided NOT to try and find out for us. Why NOT?
We go from “very big men” to very thin men. The first mention of a thin man who seemed to be living in the police station during the assassination weekend and who provided “very good bits of information” come via the testimony of television director Jimmy Turner.
Mr. HUBERT. All right; now, during our interview, immediately preceding the commencement of this deposition you mentioned another person that you had seen around the court building on several occasions, and I should like now--in other words, tell what you know about this person when you first saw him, now, at the numerous occasions on which you saw him until the last time that you saw him?
Mr. TURNER. …We arrived from Fort Bliss at approximately 1 a.m. Saturday, the 23d of November, from Fort Worth…and when we arrived there we--there was this man that resembled John Carradine of the movies quite a lot. He was very thin faced, around 40 to 50, carrying a portfolio, and another little bag with him. Looked like a shaving kit bag, or something of that effect. He…was standing inside, and he immediately started talking to us about various things which we passed off as just an average person talking to you, finding out what you were doing and everything, and he talked to us about 15 or 20 minutes. He did mention in his conversation that he had been a school teacher prior to that, about 16 months before.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, did he have a press badge on?
Mr. TURNER. No, he had no badge on. He was wearing a light trenchcoat or topcoat.
Mr. HUBERT. What would you guess his weight to be?
Mr. TURNER. Oh, only around 130 to 140 pounds. Very light in weight; very skinny.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever see the clothing he had under the trenchcoat?
Mr. TURNER. No; as far as I know, I never saw him without the trenchcoat on, the whole time….We went to the cafe down the block to grab a bite to eat at this time…and when we got back there he was still standing there talking…
Mr. HUBERT. Did he ever mention his name?
Mr. TURNER. He never mentioned his name….After they got set up, he kept coming up in the hallway...On the third floor, sir. This is while we were still up on the third floor, and waiting to get shots of Oswald being transferred from the elevator door to the questioning room, and he would continually come up and give—say, "They are going to bring him down in about five minutes." And he usually was right, on each one of the tips he gave us. He mingled around in the press room up on the third floor a lot. He—I told Tom Pettit, which was the announcer up on the floor, that Oswald was coming down, and he said, "Where are you learning the information?”
Mr. HUBERT. You asked this of this man?
Mr. TURNER. Well, no; I didn't ever ask him where he was learning his information, but I told--Tom Pettit asked me where I was getting this information, and I said, "Well, that man back over there," and I pointed him out and he said, "Who is he?" And I said, "I don't know who he is, but he is giving us some pretty good tips." And he said, "Okay, keep using him, then." From that point on, we saw him various times the whole, completely on the third.
Mr. HUBERT. How many times do you think you saw him?
Mr. TURNER. Oh, any number of times, 15 or 20. Just pass him in the hall…. He had free movement on that floor. He had free movement in the basement. That was the only two floors we actually ever did see him, but he was on those floors, back to the press room, talking to the other reporters…and then Sunday morning we came over. I ran into him in the restroom, and he seemed to just live there in the jail.
Mr. HUBERT. Still had that trenchcoat?
Mr. TURNER. And still carrying the little bag, same little bag….And we came again Sunday morning, and then we went through the shooting of Oswald, he wasn't in the basement, to my knowledge at this point.
Mr. HUBERT. When did you see him next?
Mr. TURNER. The next time I saw him was approximately 15 minutes after the shooting when I started to our remote truck to pick up a mike line and a camera cable. The doors was being guarded by policemen, who stopped me, and I told them my business; why I wanted to leave the jail, and give them my name and he let me leave…and when I came back in, which was approximately 3 or 4 minutes after, after we got the stuff ready to bring the camera in to take the lineup room, which is in the basement of the jail, well, this officer had him at the door, and he was trying to show him identification from his billfold.
Mr. HUBERT. You don't know who that officer was?
Mr. TURNER. No, sir; I don't. And this man turned to me and said, "That man there can identify me," and I said, "Like hell I can. I don't know who you are or what you are." Or similar to this effect, that I had seen the man, but I didn't know who he was, so, I kept on about my business, because we were pretty rushed at that time, and approximately 15 minutes later I ran onto him in the hallway coming back out the same door, and he said, "Thanks a million," and I said, "Well, I don't know you from anyone." I said, "That's why I didn't identify you." Or something to that effect and from that point on, I have never seen the gentleman again.
Mr. HUBERT. Have you made any effort to ascertain who he was?
Mr. TURNER. I have reported this to the Secret Service, Mr. Carter with the Secret Service, and I figured it wasn't any of my business, from that point on.
Mr. HUBERT. You have never seen him since?
Mr. TURNER. No, sir.
Who was this man? Where did he get all his valuable bits of information from? Did the Secret Service (SS) attempt to identify him? If so, did they succeed? These are all questions that have been left unanswered for us by the WC. Why is that?
To quote a famous movie title there was “another thin man” seen by Reserve Officer Mayo who also saw the first large man with a limp. He said this about the thin man in his testimony.
Mr. HUBERT. Let the record show that Mr. Mayo wanted to acquaint me with the general nature of another matter, but that after he had spoken a few sentences, it became apparent to me that it should be a matter of record, so, I will ask you now, Mr. Mayo, just simply to repeat what you have said to me in the last few sentences off the record.
Mr. MAYO. The first individual that tried to gain entrance into the basement said that he was a minister and he had a small book in his hand and I asked him what his business was. He said he wanted to go see Lee Harvey Oswald, that he was a friend of his, a minister that was supposed to help him, and he needed him, and he needed to go down there, and I told him "No, he could not enter without"--now, that is when I was on the Commerce Street side, and he hung around the entrance for some 20 minutes, I think, and he kept looking in the basement and acted very peculiar, but finally he left within about 20 minutes. He was tall, skinny, looked like over 6 feet tall, and looked like he was a man between 55 and 60.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, you say you reported the fact to the----
Mr. MAYO. I mentioned that to Jack Revill, and they said, well, it was probably just like lots of people trying to gain entrance. They didn't think it had much value.
Mr. HUBERT. And he suggested that it be left out of your report?
Mr. MAYO. Yes.
Was this just another “oversight” by Revill when he suggested that Mayo leave this too out of his report? What was Revill afraid of by having these men left out of Mayo’s report on what he saw and heard that day? For once we will get an answer as Revill was asked about this when he testified.
Mr. HUBERT. I understand that Sergeant Mayo, when he was interviewed by you, stated that he had been approached by some individual who was either a minister or posing to be a minister in any case, who was trying to get into the jail through the Commerce Street entrance on November 24, prior to the shooting, stating that he wanted to see Oswald, and that you had told him, well, that wasn't pertinent to your inquiry, and all I want to do is ask you what—if it is true, and just what comment do you have to make on it?
Lieutenant REVILL. I don't recall making that, because it would have been pertinent to my inquiry. .. .
Mr. HUBERT. ...In other words, your statement is that you do not recollect that Mayo made such a statement to you?
Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; he might have made such a statement. …
Mr. HUBERT. ...Regarding the minister, your thought is that he may have stated to you, but you do not remember?
Lieutenant REVILL. I don't recall.
Mr. HUBERT. Nor do you recall why he omitted it from your report?
Lieutenant REVILL. This might have happened. It was subsequent to this I found a preacher who wanted to talk to Oswald, and he went to Chief Batchelor's office, and. . . . No, prior to the shooting . . . let's see, he arrived at City Hall at 9:30. This preacher's name is Ray Rushing. He is an evangelist, Radio Evangelist.
Mr. HUBERT. And that was reported and the man was interviewed?
Lieutenant REVILL. It was not reported because I myself found this man…There is no report on it, because it is in—it had nothing to do with the shooting. He had gone to Sheriff Decker's office, and Decker referred him to the city . . . so, he came to the city hall and went to the third floor, and—by the way, he rode up on the elevator with Jack Ruby, now—
Mr. HUBERT. This Rushing?
Lieutenant REVILL. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Rode to the third floor-
Lieutenant REVILL. Now, he says this.
Mr. HUBERT. Oh, he says this.
Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, for the past 7 weeks I have been assigned to the district attorney's office, the prosecution of Ruby, running down leads and interviewing witnesses and this preacher was one of the people that we located, and he related this story to me, that he rode up on the elevator with Jack Ruby on the morning of November 24. Mr. Wade did not use this man. He didn't need the testimony, because he had placed Ruby there the morning of the shooting.
Mr. HUBERT. In other words, Rushing says that he rode up with Ruby on the morning of the 24th, prior to the shooting?
Lieutenant. REVILL. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. What was his name?...You don't know how we could reach him?
Lieutenant REVILL. : ...he lives in Richardson, Tex—correction, please,—Plano, Texas.
Mr. HUBERT. : ...Did you make a report on the interview with him?
Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; I did not. This was an interview conducted by the—at the district attorney's office in the presence of Assistant District Attorney Alexander.
Mr. HUBERT. Did Rushing say what time that was?
Lieutenant REVILL. Nine-thirty. He was sure of the time, because he had let his wife and family out at the First Baptist Church. . . .
Mr. HUBERT. How did he recognize Ruby? Did he say?
Lieutenant REVILL. He said he recognized him from the newspaper article that appeared that day, and later days.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he say whether he had any conversation with him?
Lieutenant REVILL. He talked about the weather. I asked him. . . . What I did is, I interviewed Mr. Rushing one night and asked him if he could come to the district attorney's office and relate this to Mr. Wade. Possibility that the district attorney might use him as a witness, and Alexander was of the opinion that the man might be mistaken. That he saw this as a means of getting publicity. Of course, I disagree with that thinking. I think that the man is truthful in that he is reporting what he thinks he saw.
Ray Rushing approached Reserve Officer Mayo and told him he was a “friend of LHO’s”. He then tells Lieutenant Revill that he met and rode to the THIRD FLOOR in an elevator with Jack Ruby at about 9:30 a.m. on Sunday morning, November 24, 1963! Ruby was NOT supposed to be at the police station then according to official information. It is not surprising then when you look at the list of witnesses to see that Ray Rushing was NOT called to testify before the WC. This was information they simply did not want to get into more fully. He would not be interviewed by either the FBI or SS either about his claim of seeing Ruby at the police station when he was supposed to have been home. He was also ignored by DA Henry Wade. Why? What were they afraid of finding out?
Why he was not called or interviewed about this incident is even more odd when the reader looks at what the WC wrote itself in their Report.
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Sunday morning.—Ruby’s activities on Sunday morning are the subject of conflicting testimony. George Senator believed Ruby did not rise until 9 or 9:30 a.m.; both Ruby and Senator maintain that Ruby did not leave their apartment until shortly before 11:00 a.m.; and two other witnesses have provided testimony which supports that account of Ruby’s whereabouts. On the other hand, three WBAP-TV television technicians---Warren Richey, John Smith and Ira Walker—believed they saw Ruby near the Police and Courts Building at various times between 8 and 11:00 a.m. But there are substantial reasons to doubt the accuracy of their identifications. (WCR, p. 352)
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So basically the WC went with Ruby and Senator’s word over three other witnesses word all because none of the three had “seen Ruby on a previous occasion”. Please. They were all pretty sure in their testimonies that they saw Ruby and Rushing’s claim would have tied right into that timeframe, thus, the WC ignored Ray Rushing. It is that simple.
Let’s not forget Jack Ruby’s cleaning lady, Elnora Pitts, either as she called into doubt exactly where Ruby was and what he was doing.
Mr. HUBERT. And that is the Sunday we are talking about?
Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Work, and you say you don't know what time it was?
Mrs. PITTS. No, I don't, but it was--it was after 8. I know way after 8, and when I called him he said to me, "What do you want?" And I said----
Mr. HUBERT. Did you recognize his voice?
Mrs. PITTS. Well, I'll tell you how he talked to me, ,then I said, "What do I want?" I says, "This is Elnora." He says, "Yes, well, what--you need some money?" And I says, "No; I was coming to clean today." "Coming to clean?" Like you know, like he just- ---
Mr. HUBERT. In other words, when you told him that you were coming to clean he seemed to express some surprise, is that it?
Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir; like he didn't know that I was going to come and clean.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he recognize you?
Mrs. PITTS. I don't know if he did or not. And I says to him again, I says, "This is Elnora." And he says, "Well, what do you want?" And I said, "Well, I was coming to clean today." "You coming now?" And I says, "No." . . . I says, "You seem funny to me." And I says, "Do you want me to come today?" And he says, "Well, yes; you can come, but you call me." And I says, "That's what I'm doing now, calling you so I won't have to call you again." ... He sounded so strange to me . . . and I said, "Who' am I talking to? Is this Mr. Jack Ruby?" And he said, "Yes. Why?" And I said, "Oh, nothing." But he just sounded terrible strange to me. . . .
Mr. HUBERT. So, there was some doubt in your mind as to whether it was Jack Ruby?
Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. It was a doubt in something wrong with him the way he was talking to me…It was him. I'm sure of that, but then he just was indifferent. He sure did talk indifferent; yes, sir. He sure did. . . . Said he was going out, he would try to be back by two. That is what he told me. . . .
This is a very interesting piece of testimony. Was she speaking with Jack Ruby or someone else? Given that the person she was speaking with seemed totally clueless about who she was and what she wanted we have to wonder who it was. Mrs. Pitts also said he did “not sound like Ruby” so that again leads one to think it was not Ruby. The man also thought she was calling for money when she was not. Ironically, or not so much, that is the excuse Ruby used to go to the Western Union office near the police station—to send money to a dancer of his. Officially, this call for money would not come for another hour or so. Finally, the man told Mrs. Pitts that he already planned on going out, so why would the request for money be the reason he went out as claimed? She finished by saying she felt it was Mr. Ruby, but given all that she said one has to wonder if it was or not.
These questions leads one to believe that Ruby was in collusion with others to fabricate circumstantial evidence to show that he acted in an unpremeditated way in regards to the murder of LHO. Despite it being the WC’s duty to test this premise—to investigate if the man speaking with Mrs. Pitts was impersonating Ruby, that the supposed call that sent Ruby to Western Union was a fake or rigged call, and that Ruby was at the police station between the hours of 8 to 11:00 a.m. as four witnesses said—the WC did NONE of this. They just accepted Ruby’s word for what he was doing and where he was doing it. Why?
We again see an abundance of evidence in the twenty-six volumes of Hearings and Exhibits that call into question every conclusion the WC arrived at in this post.
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) had shot and killed President John F. Kennedy (JFK) and Dallas Police officer J.D. Tippit (JDT) all by himself on November 22, 1963. They also made a ton of other claims that were equally UNSUPPORTED by the evidence in the twenty-six volumes of Hearings and Exhibits.
This post will look at some more odd things that the WC failed to deal with and mislead us about.
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With an investigation as large as this one it should be a no-brainer that they got some basic things right, but the WC continually showed this was NOT the case. Things as simple as what hand LHO favored seem to be full of conjecture when we examine the evidence. The same goes for where Jack Ruby lived.
According to Jack Ruby’s roommate George Senator the address Ruby lived at on November 22, 1963, was 223 South Ewing Street [Senator lived at 225 South Ewing Street].
Mr. HUBERT. And how long did you stay with Corbat?
Mr. SENATOR. When I went in with Corbat, of course, he only had a one-bedroom apartment and I had to sleep on the couch again….that just as soon as I get a little extra money I want to get a two-bedroom apartment and that is where I moved into this last apartment, 225 South Ewing.
Mr. HUBERT. That was about when?
Mr. SENATOR. I moved in there, I believe it was the latter part of November of 1962, we found a nice two-bedroom apartment that was very reasonable. I told Jack about it and Jack moved next door.
Mr. HUBERT. But he moved later than you, didn't he?
Mr. SENATOR. Well, see, I moved in first.
Mr. HUBERT. And that was in November of 1962?
Mr. SENATOR. I believe it was the latter part of November of 1962.
Mr. HUBERT. When did Ruby move in?
Mr. SENATOR. He moved in around that same time.
So this seems pretty clear cut, Senator stayed at 225 South Ewing and Ruby’s place was listed as 223 South Ewing Street. Not so fast as we see another address listed for Ruby on various documents. For example, Commission Exhibit (CE) 2003, p. 331 shows the address of 3929 Rawlins Street.
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We also see this address on the receipt for Jack Ruby’s things. Look at the form on the right of the page.
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What was this address? It was the address where his sister, Eva Grant, resided.
Mr. HUBERT. And where do you reside?
Mrs. GRANT. 3929 Rawlins, Dallas, Tex.
Why would formal Dallas Police Department (DPD) documents reflect Eva Grant’s address for Jack Ruby? Could it be that the WC wanted to hide the fact that Ruby’s apartment was located in Oak Cliff and very near the scene of the murder of JDT? Could it be because they wanted to hide the fact Ruby’s apartment was NOT that far from LHO’s roominghouse?
It would be said, and left for us to think, that Ruby had moved from his apartment earlier when an entertainer at the Carousel gave testimony (William Crowe, a.k.a. Bill DeMar).
Mr. HUBERT. Do you know a man by the name of Hugh Reed who ran the place? All right, sir, you drove into the garage?
Mr. CROWE. And a newspaperman drove up front, and television drove up across the street, and the newspaperman, I think, and somebody else, and they started to ask the garage attendant if he knew where Jack Ruby lived, and I came forward and I said I knew where he lived, at least I thought I did, but I didn't know he had moved, so I didn't know actually.
Mr. HUBERT. But in any case you gave them an address?
Mr. CROWE. Well, I didn't know the address but I knew how to get there.
Mr. HUBERT. I see.
Mr. CROWE. And I went out with some newspaper reporter in his Volkswagen and drove out to the apartment out by the zoo where he used to stay.
Mr. HUBERT. Then you found he was not there?
Mr. CROWE. Not there, he had moved.
Jack Ruby had NOT moved as he is saying as he was still living at 223 South Ewing Street on the day of the assassination. It seems the WC was happy to let this stay in the mind of the reader as they did NOT want the reader thinking how close Ruby’s apartment was to the murder scene of JDT and the roominghouse of LHO. That may cause some to ask questions best left unasked.
Another odd thing is why do we see a Patrolman being ordered to take mail to JDT’s widow at one point, but then being called back from doing so? In CE 2030 we read the following.
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Patrolman Gerald Springer...advised that on Sunday, November 24, 1963, he was in a patrol car…he stated that a call came on the radio for any cars who were unassigned to check in the radio…he was instructed to come to Central Headquarters and to report to the Chief’s office for assignment.
He stated this was at approximately 10:30 a.m. as nearly as he can recall...When he arrived on the third floor, Patrolman Art Hammett advised him to pick up some telegrams and other mail and deliver it to Mrs. Tippit, the wife of the slain policeman.
...He left the third floor...got in his car, pulled out of the police station, and was in the vicinity of Ervay and Jackson Streets when he received a call on the radio to report back to the Central Police Station...He went back to the third floor and Patrolman Hammett told him to disregard his assignment, that they would take the mail and so forth out to Mrs. Tippit later on. He went back to the basement, contacted Sergeant Putnam and asked if there was anything he wanted him to do. Sergeant Putnam told him there was nothing for him to do...(CE 2030, p. 442)
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Since Springer had nothing else to do, why was he told to come back and forget delivering this mail to Mrs. Tippit? Also, why was Springer called in to do something someone else had been tasked with earlier in the morning, but apparently had not done? We see this in Sergeant Don Steele’s testimony.
Mr. HUBERT. And the---
Sergeant STEELE. And the 24th, of course, the regular assignment is in the Oak Cliff area, and I reported to that assignment.
Mr. HUBERT. Were you moved from that assignment?
Sergeant STEELE. I came to the city hall, came to the police station downtown early that morning to pick up some correspondence, telegrams, and things like that, to take to Officer Tippit's widow.
Mr. HUBERT. And what time was that?
Sergeant STEELE. That was approximately 9:15.
Mr. HUBERT. What happened after that?
Sergeant STEELE. Well, the captain was bringing in some of the patrolmen from in the field, from all the stations, and I asked Lieutenant Pierce if there was anything he needed me to do before I left, and he said, "Well--" told me I'd better stick around for a while. He might need me.
Why was Steele not allowed to do this assignment? Why was Springer then called in twice in the timeframe shortly before the shooting of LHO? IF you read the full document (CE 2030) I linked to you will see that both times Springer drove his car down the MAIN STREET RAMP past Officer Roy Vaughn! Was his calling in twice a method of creating a distraction to allow something to happen? Since the WC lawyer, Hubert, was NOT aware of Springer’s report to the FBI (based on no mention of it) he did not pursue it. Neither Springer or Hammett (the man Springer spoke with and one of Chief Curry’s assistant) were called to explore this further.
Who was the unknown man with the limp mentioned in an earlier post? He came by soon after LHO was shot (about 15 minutes) according to Police Reserve Officer Logan Mayo. Mayo said he was a large man who was slightly bald and who walked with a slight limp. He came into the building looking to visit Ruby and he said he was Ruby’s roommate. He explained that Ruby had a large sum of money on his person and he wanted to see if Ruby wanted him to take the money and hold it for him. As we know Ruby did have a large sum of money on him when he shot LHO, but Ruby’s roommate did not match this description and he had gone to the home of lawyer James Martin. George Senator would not visit Ruby until later in the afternoon on November 24, 1963. So, who was this man that was directed to Lieutenant J.R. Gilmore?
Mayo would describe him as follows in his WC testimony.
Mr. MAYO. I went to the other side, and a large gentleman, well, he was slightly bald, weighed over 200 pounds, and walked with a limp. He came up to me and then said that he was a roommate of Jack Ruby, and that he wanted to go down and talk to him. And I told him he could not enter. I asked him what was the nature of his business and he said that Mr. Ruby had quite a sum of money on his person and he wanted to go down there and see if he wanted him to handle it for him. I told him he couldn't go down and he stayed up around there about 20 or 30 minutes, and finally went on down Main Street.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he give you his name?
Mr. MAYO. I didn't ask him his name. He didn't give me his name. I told him he couldn't enter--and he walked with a limp. I remember that. He was a large fellow. Had no tie on and slightly bald. No hat on.
Mr. HUBERT. And he claimed to be a roommate of Jack Ruby?
Mr. MAYO. Jack Ruby; yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Could you describe him otherwise, his hair, his height----
Mr. MAYO. I'd say he was over 6 feet tall, and much heavier than I am.
Due to an oversight by Lieutenant Jack Revill this encounter did not get into the report Mayo did.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you recall his statement to you, Mayo to you, that after the shooting when Mayo was stationed in the Main Street ramp that there was a man who came to Mayo, I think, identified himself as Ruby's roommate, and was trying to get in to see Ruby, that being after the shooting. Do you recall that Mayo reported that during the course of the interview?
Lieutenant REVILL. It seems like I do recall Mayo saying something like that, and I believe he referred this man to Lieutenant Gilmore of the Special Service Bureau. I believe he told me that, but I don't see it here and I don't know why we omitted that, but I think we--I do recall him making such a statement. George Senator, I believe he would have been the individual.
Mr. HUBERT. But, you do not recall right now why it was not made a part of the interview?
Lieutenant REVILL. Just an oversight on my part. It should have been listed here.
We have no way of knowing if he ever was taken to Lt. Gilmore since was not questioned, so it would seem highly doubtful he was ever taken to see Jack Ruby. Still, who was this man? He came just 15 minutes after Ruby shot LHO, so this is an awful fast reaction for anyone to have IF they heard of the news through the media or word of mouth. This type of quick reaction seems more fitting for someone who had knowledge of what Ruby was going to do IMO.
A second “great big fellow” would try and visit Ruby on that day not too long after he shot LHO. He was encountered by Officer Roy Vaughn who had been stationed on the Main Street ramp.
Mr. HUBERT. I think you said that there was one person who came a little later after the shooting who wanted to see Ruby?
Mr. VAUGHN. Yes--this was after--oh, I would say it was approximately an hour or almost an hour after the shooting.
Mr. HUBERT. What did he look like?
Mr. VAUGHN. He was a great big fellow. Now, I would say he was in the middle twenties or late twenties.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he say to you he wanted to see Ruby?
Mr. VAUGHN. No, sir--who he actually walked up and asked for--he walked up and I overheard the conversation, if I recall, with one of the reserve officers--they had sent some reserve officers up before that time to help with the traffic and the crowd and I overheard the conversation--he said he was an employee of Jack Ruby's….He said, "Well, I am an employee of Jack Ruby's," and he said, "I would like to talk to lieutenant--" I believe he said Cunningham--I'm not real sure I'm not positive now. Anyway, I asked him then what the deal was and he said, "He just needed to talk to him," and I felt possibly--by that time I had found out actually that Jack Ruby had shot him, and I felt possibly maybe someone wanted to talk to him, and a reserve relieved me on the entrance of the ramp and I went and took this man to the information desk in the basement and I called the homicide bureau and told Detective Boyd--I don't recall if he is the one that answered the phone, but I told whoever it was what the circumstances was, and Detective Boyd come down to the basement and he started searching this man and I helped him search him for any kind of a concealed weapon he might have and I turned him over to him and I left. I don't know the man's name, but he said he was an employee of Jack's.
Mr. HUBERT. Was he a heavy man, you say?
Mr. VAUGHN. He was quite a big man.
Mr. HUBERT. How old would he be?
Mr. VAUGHN. I would say he was in the middle twenties or late twenties.
Mr. HUBERT. How tall was he?
Mr. VAUGHN. Oh, he was about 6 foot 3 or 4---he was a tall man, but I believe he was heavier.
Mr. HUBERT. What would you say he weighed?
Mr. VAUGHN. Oh, I would say he weighed around 250.
One can’t help but think of the “very large man” both Philip Hathaway and John Lawrence saw on the day of the assassination walking with a rifle when they read this description by Vaughn. Could this have been the same man?
It had been alleged that Ruby had been friends with a Kenneth Spivey, but Spivey denied this, and if we look at a description of Spivey in CE 1458 we will see the following.
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Sex: Male
Race: White
Date of Birth: March 29, 1939, Dallas, Texas
Height: 6’3”
Weight: 220 pounds
Hair: Blond
Eyes: Hazel
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This certainly matches the description given by Vaughn, but as I said Spivey told the FBI in an interview on December 18, 1963, that he had no acquaintanceship with Ruby. The point is though the WC decided NOT to try and find out for us. Why NOT?
We go from “very big men” to very thin men. The first mention of a thin man who seemed to be living in the police station during the assassination weekend and who provided “very good bits of information” come via the testimony of television director Jimmy Turner.
Mr. HUBERT. All right; now, during our interview, immediately preceding the commencement of this deposition you mentioned another person that you had seen around the court building on several occasions, and I should like now--in other words, tell what you know about this person when you first saw him, now, at the numerous occasions on which you saw him until the last time that you saw him?
Mr. TURNER. …We arrived from Fort Bliss at approximately 1 a.m. Saturday, the 23d of November, from Fort Worth…and when we arrived there we--there was this man that resembled John Carradine of the movies quite a lot. He was very thin faced, around 40 to 50, carrying a portfolio, and another little bag with him. Looked like a shaving kit bag, or something of that effect. He…was standing inside, and he immediately started talking to us about various things which we passed off as just an average person talking to you, finding out what you were doing and everything, and he talked to us about 15 or 20 minutes. He did mention in his conversation that he had been a school teacher prior to that, about 16 months before.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, did he have a press badge on?
Mr. TURNER. No, he had no badge on. He was wearing a light trenchcoat or topcoat.
Mr. HUBERT. What would you guess his weight to be?
Mr. TURNER. Oh, only around 130 to 140 pounds. Very light in weight; very skinny.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever see the clothing he had under the trenchcoat?
Mr. TURNER. No; as far as I know, I never saw him without the trenchcoat on, the whole time….We went to the cafe down the block to grab a bite to eat at this time…and when we got back there he was still standing there talking…
Mr. HUBERT. Did he ever mention his name?
Mr. TURNER. He never mentioned his name….After they got set up, he kept coming up in the hallway...On the third floor, sir. This is while we were still up on the third floor, and waiting to get shots of Oswald being transferred from the elevator door to the questioning room, and he would continually come up and give—say, "They are going to bring him down in about five minutes." And he usually was right, on each one of the tips he gave us. He mingled around in the press room up on the third floor a lot. He—I told Tom Pettit, which was the announcer up on the floor, that Oswald was coming down, and he said, "Where are you learning the information?”
Mr. HUBERT. You asked this of this man?
Mr. TURNER. Well, no; I didn't ever ask him where he was learning his information, but I told--Tom Pettit asked me where I was getting this information, and I said, "Well, that man back over there," and I pointed him out and he said, "Who is he?" And I said, "I don't know who he is, but he is giving us some pretty good tips." And he said, "Okay, keep using him, then." From that point on, we saw him various times the whole, completely on the third.
Mr. HUBERT. How many times do you think you saw him?
Mr. TURNER. Oh, any number of times, 15 or 20. Just pass him in the hall…. He had free movement on that floor. He had free movement in the basement. That was the only two floors we actually ever did see him, but he was on those floors, back to the press room, talking to the other reporters…and then Sunday morning we came over. I ran into him in the restroom, and he seemed to just live there in the jail.
Mr. HUBERT. Still had that trenchcoat?
Mr. TURNER. And still carrying the little bag, same little bag….And we came again Sunday morning, and then we went through the shooting of Oswald, he wasn't in the basement, to my knowledge at this point.
Mr. HUBERT. When did you see him next?
Mr. TURNER. The next time I saw him was approximately 15 minutes after the shooting when I started to our remote truck to pick up a mike line and a camera cable. The doors was being guarded by policemen, who stopped me, and I told them my business; why I wanted to leave the jail, and give them my name and he let me leave…and when I came back in, which was approximately 3 or 4 minutes after, after we got the stuff ready to bring the camera in to take the lineup room, which is in the basement of the jail, well, this officer had him at the door, and he was trying to show him identification from his billfold.
Mr. HUBERT. You don't know who that officer was?
Mr. TURNER. No, sir; I don't. And this man turned to me and said, "That man there can identify me," and I said, "Like hell I can. I don't know who you are or what you are." Or similar to this effect, that I had seen the man, but I didn't know who he was, so, I kept on about my business, because we were pretty rushed at that time, and approximately 15 minutes later I ran onto him in the hallway coming back out the same door, and he said, "Thanks a million," and I said, "Well, I don't know you from anyone." I said, "That's why I didn't identify you." Or something to that effect and from that point on, I have never seen the gentleman again.
Mr. HUBERT. Have you made any effort to ascertain who he was?
Mr. TURNER. I have reported this to the Secret Service, Mr. Carter with the Secret Service, and I figured it wasn't any of my business, from that point on.
Mr. HUBERT. You have never seen him since?
Mr. TURNER. No, sir.
Who was this man? Where did he get all his valuable bits of information from? Did the Secret Service (SS) attempt to identify him? If so, did they succeed? These are all questions that have been left unanswered for us by the WC. Why is that?
To quote a famous movie title there was “another thin man” seen by Reserve Officer Mayo who also saw the first large man with a limp. He said this about the thin man in his testimony.
Mr. HUBERT. Let the record show that Mr. Mayo wanted to acquaint me with the general nature of another matter, but that after he had spoken a few sentences, it became apparent to me that it should be a matter of record, so, I will ask you now, Mr. Mayo, just simply to repeat what you have said to me in the last few sentences off the record.
Mr. MAYO. The first individual that tried to gain entrance into the basement said that he was a minister and he had a small book in his hand and I asked him what his business was. He said he wanted to go see Lee Harvey Oswald, that he was a friend of his, a minister that was supposed to help him, and he needed him, and he needed to go down there, and I told him "No, he could not enter without"--now, that is when I was on the Commerce Street side, and he hung around the entrance for some 20 minutes, I think, and he kept looking in the basement and acted very peculiar, but finally he left within about 20 minutes. He was tall, skinny, looked like over 6 feet tall, and looked like he was a man between 55 and 60.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, you say you reported the fact to the----
Mr. MAYO. I mentioned that to Jack Revill, and they said, well, it was probably just like lots of people trying to gain entrance. They didn't think it had much value.
Mr. HUBERT. And he suggested that it be left out of your report?
Mr. MAYO. Yes.
Was this just another “oversight” by Revill when he suggested that Mayo leave this too out of his report? What was Revill afraid of by having these men left out of Mayo’s report on what he saw and heard that day? For once we will get an answer as Revill was asked about this when he testified.
Mr. HUBERT. I understand that Sergeant Mayo, when he was interviewed by you, stated that he had been approached by some individual who was either a minister or posing to be a minister in any case, who was trying to get into the jail through the Commerce Street entrance on November 24, prior to the shooting, stating that he wanted to see Oswald, and that you had told him, well, that wasn't pertinent to your inquiry, and all I want to do is ask you what—if it is true, and just what comment do you have to make on it?
Lieutenant REVILL. I don't recall making that, because it would have been pertinent to my inquiry. .. .
Mr. HUBERT. ...In other words, your statement is that you do not recollect that Mayo made such a statement to you?
Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; he might have made such a statement. …
Mr. HUBERT. ...Regarding the minister, your thought is that he may have stated to you, but you do not remember?
Lieutenant REVILL. I don't recall.
Mr. HUBERT. Nor do you recall why he omitted it from your report?
Lieutenant REVILL. This might have happened. It was subsequent to this I found a preacher who wanted to talk to Oswald, and he went to Chief Batchelor's office, and. . . . No, prior to the shooting . . . let's see, he arrived at City Hall at 9:30. This preacher's name is Ray Rushing. He is an evangelist, Radio Evangelist.
Mr. HUBERT. And that was reported and the man was interviewed?
Lieutenant REVILL. It was not reported because I myself found this man…There is no report on it, because it is in—it had nothing to do with the shooting. He had gone to Sheriff Decker's office, and Decker referred him to the city . . . so, he came to the city hall and went to the third floor, and—by the way, he rode up on the elevator with Jack Ruby, now—
Mr. HUBERT. This Rushing?
Lieutenant REVILL. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Rode to the third floor-
Lieutenant REVILL. Now, he says this.
Mr. HUBERT. Oh, he says this.
Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, for the past 7 weeks I have been assigned to the district attorney's office, the prosecution of Ruby, running down leads and interviewing witnesses and this preacher was one of the people that we located, and he related this story to me, that he rode up on the elevator with Jack Ruby on the morning of November 24. Mr. Wade did not use this man. He didn't need the testimony, because he had placed Ruby there the morning of the shooting.
Mr. HUBERT. In other words, Rushing says that he rode up with Ruby on the morning of the 24th, prior to the shooting?
Lieutenant. REVILL. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. What was his name?...You don't know how we could reach him?
Lieutenant REVILL. : ...he lives in Richardson, Tex—correction, please,—Plano, Texas.
Mr. HUBERT. : ...Did you make a report on the interview with him?
Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; I did not. This was an interview conducted by the—at the district attorney's office in the presence of Assistant District Attorney Alexander.
Mr. HUBERT. Did Rushing say what time that was?
Lieutenant REVILL. Nine-thirty. He was sure of the time, because he had let his wife and family out at the First Baptist Church. . . .
Mr. HUBERT. How did he recognize Ruby? Did he say?
Lieutenant REVILL. He said he recognized him from the newspaper article that appeared that day, and later days.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he say whether he had any conversation with him?
Lieutenant REVILL. He talked about the weather. I asked him. . . . What I did is, I interviewed Mr. Rushing one night and asked him if he could come to the district attorney's office and relate this to Mr. Wade. Possibility that the district attorney might use him as a witness, and Alexander was of the opinion that the man might be mistaken. That he saw this as a means of getting publicity. Of course, I disagree with that thinking. I think that the man is truthful in that he is reporting what he thinks he saw.
Ray Rushing approached Reserve Officer Mayo and told him he was a “friend of LHO’s”. He then tells Lieutenant Revill that he met and rode to the THIRD FLOOR in an elevator with Jack Ruby at about 9:30 a.m. on Sunday morning, November 24, 1963! Ruby was NOT supposed to be at the police station then according to official information. It is not surprising then when you look at the list of witnesses to see that Ray Rushing was NOT called to testify before the WC. This was information they simply did not want to get into more fully. He would not be interviewed by either the FBI or SS either about his claim of seeing Ruby at the police station when he was supposed to have been home. He was also ignored by DA Henry Wade. Why? What were they afraid of finding out?
Why he was not called or interviewed about this incident is even more odd when the reader looks at what the WC wrote itself in their Report.
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Sunday morning.—Ruby’s activities on Sunday morning are the subject of conflicting testimony. George Senator believed Ruby did not rise until 9 or 9:30 a.m.; both Ruby and Senator maintain that Ruby did not leave their apartment until shortly before 11:00 a.m.; and two other witnesses have provided testimony which supports that account of Ruby’s whereabouts. On the other hand, three WBAP-TV television technicians---Warren Richey, John Smith and Ira Walker—believed they saw Ruby near the Police and Courts Building at various times between 8 and 11:00 a.m. But there are substantial reasons to doubt the accuracy of their identifications. (WCR, p. 352)
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So basically the WC went with Ruby and Senator’s word over three other witnesses word all because none of the three had “seen Ruby on a previous occasion”. Please. They were all pretty sure in their testimonies that they saw Ruby and Rushing’s claim would have tied right into that timeframe, thus, the WC ignored Ray Rushing. It is that simple.
Let’s not forget Jack Ruby’s cleaning lady, Elnora Pitts, either as she called into doubt exactly where Ruby was and what he was doing.
Mr. HUBERT. And that is the Sunday we are talking about?
Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Work, and you say you don't know what time it was?
Mrs. PITTS. No, I don't, but it was--it was after 8. I know way after 8, and when I called him he said to me, "What do you want?" And I said----
Mr. HUBERT. Did you recognize his voice?
Mrs. PITTS. Well, I'll tell you how he talked to me, ,then I said, "What do I want?" I says, "This is Elnora." He says, "Yes, well, what--you need some money?" And I says, "No; I was coming to clean today." "Coming to clean?" Like you know, like he just- ---
Mr. HUBERT. In other words, when you told him that you were coming to clean he seemed to express some surprise, is that it?
Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir; like he didn't know that I was going to come and clean.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he recognize you?
Mrs. PITTS. I don't know if he did or not. And I says to him again, I says, "This is Elnora." And he says, "Well, what do you want?" And I said, "Well, I was coming to clean today." "You coming now?" And I says, "No." . . . I says, "You seem funny to me." And I says, "Do you want me to come today?" And he says, "Well, yes; you can come, but you call me." And I says, "That's what I'm doing now, calling you so I won't have to call you again." ... He sounded so strange to me . . . and I said, "Who' am I talking to? Is this Mr. Jack Ruby?" And he said, "Yes. Why?" And I said, "Oh, nothing." But he just sounded terrible strange to me. . . .
Mr. HUBERT. So, there was some doubt in your mind as to whether it was Jack Ruby?
Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. It was a doubt in something wrong with him the way he was talking to me…It was him. I'm sure of that, but then he just was indifferent. He sure did talk indifferent; yes, sir. He sure did. . . . Said he was going out, he would try to be back by two. That is what he told me. . . .
This is a very interesting piece of testimony. Was she speaking with Jack Ruby or someone else? Given that the person she was speaking with seemed totally clueless about who she was and what she wanted we have to wonder who it was. Mrs. Pitts also said he did “not sound like Ruby” so that again leads one to think it was not Ruby. The man also thought she was calling for money when she was not. Ironically, or not so much, that is the excuse Ruby used to go to the Western Union office near the police station—to send money to a dancer of his. Officially, this call for money would not come for another hour or so. Finally, the man told Mrs. Pitts that he already planned on going out, so why would the request for money be the reason he went out as claimed? She finished by saying she felt it was Mr. Ruby, but given all that she said one has to wonder if it was or not.
These questions leads one to believe that Ruby was in collusion with others to fabricate circumstantial evidence to show that he acted in an unpremeditated way in regards to the murder of LHO. Despite it being the WC’s duty to test this premise—to investigate if the man speaking with Mrs. Pitts was impersonating Ruby, that the supposed call that sent Ruby to Western Union was a fake or rigged call, and that Ruby was at the police station between the hours of 8 to 11:00 a.m. as four witnesses said—the WC did NONE of this. They just accepted Ruby’s word for what he was doing and where he was doing it. Why?
We again see an abundance of evidence in the twenty-six volumes of Hearings and Exhibits that call into question every conclusion the WC arrived at in this post.