Post by Rob Caprio on Nov 6, 2018 10:49:04 GMT -5
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Commander James Humes, a prosector at the John F. Kennedy (JFK) autopsy, would state in his Warren Commission (WC) testimony that the Parkland Hospital (PH) doctors did NOT pursue work in the chest area. Let’s see if that is true or not.
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Here is the relevant portion of his WC testimony.
Commander HUMES - …Doctor Perry…therefore, asked one of his associates, and the record is to me somewhat confused as to which of his associates, he asked one of his associates to put in a chest tube. This is a maneuver which is, was quite logical under the circumstances, and which would, if a tube that were placed through all layers of the wall of the chest, and the chest cavity had been violated one could remove air that had gotten in there and greatly assist respiration.
So when we examined the President in addition to the large wound which we found in conversation with Doctor Perry was the tracheotomy wound, there were two smaller wounds on the upper anterior chest.
Mr. DULLES - These are apparently exit wounds?
Commander HUMES - Sir, these were knife wounds, these were incised wounds on either side of the chest, and I will give them in somewhat greater detail. These wounds were bilateral, they were situated on the anterior chest wall in the nipple line, and each were 2 cm. long in the transverse axis. The one on the right was situated 11 cm. above the nipple the one on the left was situated 11 cm. on the nipple, and the one on the right was 8 cm. above the nipple. Their intention was to incise through the President's chest to place tubes into his chest.
We examined those wounds very carefully, and found that they, however, did not enter the chest cavity. They only went through the skin. I presume that as they were performing that procedure it was obvious that the President had died, and they didn't pursue this.
It is clear he is saying they prepared to go into the chest cavity, but did NOT pursue this because the President had died, thus, they did NO work in the chest area per Humes. Is this correct? Again, according to the evidence in the WC’s own twenty-six volumes it is NOT.
IF we go to Price Exhibits 2-35 we will see this on page 216:
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As soon as we reached the room, a doctor placed an endotracheal tube, and prepared for a tracheostomy. Within a few minutes, there were numerous doctors in the room starting I.V.’s, PLACING CHEST TUBES and anesthesia with O2. A doctor asked me to place a pressure dressing on the head wound. This was of no use, however, because of the MASSIVE OPENING ON THE BACK OF THE HEAD. (Price Exhibit No. 21, p. 216) (Emphasis mine)
Nurse Pat Hutton
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On page 239 of the same source we see this.
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I immediately went into Room 1 and started setting up I.V. fluids. Then I assisted the doctor while he inserted an endotrachael tube and started the I.P.P.B. machine. As soon as this was done, I opened a trachoestomy tray and gloves for the doctors.
While one group was doing the tracheostomy, I opened up a CHEST tray and assisted doctors in putting in CHEST TUBES. By this time there were three I.V.’s going, and one of the doctors said to get some O-negative blood; I immediately left the room to get the blood. (Emphasis mine)
Nurse Margaret Hinchliffe (Price Exhibit No. 30, p. 239)
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Further corroboration of chest tubes would come from Dr. Paul Peters of PH who said this to the WC in his tetimony.
Mr. SPECTER - Now, tell us what aid was rendered to President Kennedy.
Dr. PETERS - Dr. Perry and Dr. Baxter were doing the tracheotomy and a set of tracheotomy tubes was obtained and the appropriate size was determined and I gave it to Baxter, who helped Perry put it into the wound, and Perry noted also that there appeared to be a bubbling sensation in the chest and recommended that chest tubes be put in. Dr. Ron Jones put a chest tube in on the left side and Dr. Baxter and I put it in on the right side I made the incision in the President's chest, and I noted that there was no bleeding from the wound.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you put that chest tube all the way in on the right side?
Dr. PETERS - That's our presumption--yes.
This testimony obviously leads us to Dr. Baxter for further corroboration.
Dr. Baxter - Well, I believe this was Carrico who said that his heart was still beating. There was present at the time two intravenous catheters in place with fluids running. We were informed at that time well, having looked over the rest of the body, the only other wound was in his neck, that we saw.
Dr. Carrico said that he had observed a tracheal laceration. At that moment Dr. Jones, I believe, was placing in a left anterior chest tube because of this information. We proceeded at that time with a tracheotomy.
Mr. Specter - What else, if anything, did you do for President Kennedy at that time?
Dr. Baxter - During the tracheotomy, I helped with the insertion of a right anterior chest tube, and then helped Dr. Perry complete the tracheotomy. At that point none of us could hear a heartbeat present. Apparently this had ceased during the tracheotomy and the chest tube placement.
This of course leads us to Dr. Ronald Jones for even further corroboration.
Mr. SPECTER - What further action was taken by the medical team in addition to that which you have described on the tracheotomy?
Dr. JONES - Well, as Dr. Perry started the tracheotomy, I started the cut down in the left arm to insert a large polyethylene catheter, to give an I.V. so that we could give I.V. solutions as well as blood, and at the same time another doctor or two were doing some cutdowns in the lower extremities around the ankle. We made the cutdown in the left arm in the cephalic vein very rapidly and I.V. fluids were started immediately and as I was doing this, Dr. Perry was performing the tracheotomy, and it was about this time that Dr. Baxter came in and went ahead to assist Dr. Perry with the tracheotomy, and as they made a deeper incision in the neck to isolate the trachea, they thought they saw some gush of air and the possibility of a pneumothorax on one side or the other was entertained, and since I was to the left of the President, I went ahead and put in the anterior chest tube in the second intercostal space.
Mr. SPECTER - Was that tube fully inserted, Doctor?
Dr. JONES - I felt that the tube was fully inserted, and this was immediately connected to underwater drainage.
If this wasn’t enough to show that Dr. Humes was wrong, there is even more. In his WC testimony Dr. Gene Akin said this.
Mr. SPECTER - You have already described some of the treatment which was performed on the President; could you supplement that by describing what else was done for the President?
Dr. AKIN - Other than the placement of chest tubes, artificial respiration, brief external cardiac massage---I don't know. Anything else I said would be hearsay, and I understand that he did receive some cortisone. He received so much Ringer's lactate, but this is not of my own personal knowledge.
Here is what Dr. Robert McClelland testified to.
Mr. SPECTER - What other treatment was given to President Kennedy at the time you were performing the procedures you have just described?
Dr. McCLELLAND - To the best of my knowledge, the other treatment had consisted of the placement of cutdown sites in his extremities, namely, the making of incisions over large veins in the arms and, I believe, in the leg; however, I'm not sure about that, since I was not paying too much attention to that part of the activity, and large plastic tubes were placed into these veins for the giving of blood and fluids, and as I recall, he received a certain amount of blood, but I don't know exactly how much, since I was not actually giving the blood.
In addition to that, of course, while we were working on the tracheotomy incision, the other physicians that I have mentioned were attaching the President rapidly to a cardiac monitor, that is to say, an electrocardiogram, for checking the presence of cardiac activity, and in addition, chest tubes were being placed in the right and left chest---both, as I recall.
Mr. SPECTER - Do you recall who was placing those tubes?
Dr. McCLELLAND - One of the tubes, I believe, was placed by Dr. Peters. The other one, I'm not right certain, I don't really recall---I perhaps better not say.
Mr. SPECTER - Do you know about how long that took in placing those chest tubes?
Dr. McCLELLAND - As well as I am aware, the tubes were both placed in. What this involves is simply putting a trocar, a large hollow tube, and that is put into the small incision, into the anterior chest wall and slipping the tube into the chest between a group of ribs for purposes of relieving any collection of air or fluid which is present in the lungs. The reason this was done was because it was felt that there was probably quite possibly a mediastinal injury with perhaps suffusion of blood and sir into one or both pleural cavities.
This is ample proof showing what Dr. Humes testified to was FALSE, and yet the WC decided to ignore all of this evidence and go with it. How come?
Once again, we see the WC’s OWN evidence sinks their claims and their conclusion.
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Commander James Humes, a prosector at the John F. Kennedy (JFK) autopsy, would state in his Warren Commission (WC) testimony that the Parkland Hospital (PH) doctors did NOT pursue work in the chest area. Let’s see if that is true or not.
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Here is the relevant portion of his WC testimony.
Commander HUMES - …Doctor Perry…therefore, asked one of his associates, and the record is to me somewhat confused as to which of his associates, he asked one of his associates to put in a chest tube. This is a maneuver which is, was quite logical under the circumstances, and which would, if a tube that were placed through all layers of the wall of the chest, and the chest cavity had been violated one could remove air that had gotten in there and greatly assist respiration.
So when we examined the President in addition to the large wound which we found in conversation with Doctor Perry was the tracheotomy wound, there were two smaller wounds on the upper anterior chest.
Mr. DULLES - These are apparently exit wounds?
Commander HUMES - Sir, these were knife wounds, these were incised wounds on either side of the chest, and I will give them in somewhat greater detail. These wounds were bilateral, they were situated on the anterior chest wall in the nipple line, and each were 2 cm. long in the transverse axis. The one on the right was situated 11 cm. above the nipple the one on the left was situated 11 cm. on the nipple, and the one on the right was 8 cm. above the nipple. Their intention was to incise through the President's chest to place tubes into his chest.
We examined those wounds very carefully, and found that they, however, did not enter the chest cavity. They only went through the skin. I presume that as they were performing that procedure it was obvious that the President had died, and they didn't pursue this.
It is clear he is saying they prepared to go into the chest cavity, but did NOT pursue this because the President had died, thus, they did NO work in the chest area per Humes. Is this correct? Again, according to the evidence in the WC’s own twenty-six volumes it is NOT.
IF we go to Price Exhibits 2-35 we will see this on page 216:
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As soon as we reached the room, a doctor placed an endotracheal tube, and prepared for a tracheostomy. Within a few minutes, there were numerous doctors in the room starting I.V.’s, PLACING CHEST TUBES and anesthesia with O2. A doctor asked me to place a pressure dressing on the head wound. This was of no use, however, because of the MASSIVE OPENING ON THE BACK OF THE HEAD. (Price Exhibit No. 21, p. 216) (Emphasis mine)
Nurse Pat Hutton
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On page 239 of the same source we see this.
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I immediately went into Room 1 and started setting up I.V. fluids. Then I assisted the doctor while he inserted an endotrachael tube and started the I.P.P.B. machine. As soon as this was done, I opened a trachoestomy tray and gloves for the doctors.
While one group was doing the tracheostomy, I opened up a CHEST tray and assisted doctors in putting in CHEST TUBES. By this time there were three I.V.’s going, and one of the doctors said to get some O-negative blood; I immediately left the room to get the blood. (Emphasis mine)
Nurse Margaret Hinchliffe (Price Exhibit No. 30, p. 239)
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Further corroboration of chest tubes would come from Dr. Paul Peters of PH who said this to the WC in his tetimony.
Mr. SPECTER - Now, tell us what aid was rendered to President Kennedy.
Dr. PETERS - Dr. Perry and Dr. Baxter were doing the tracheotomy and a set of tracheotomy tubes was obtained and the appropriate size was determined and I gave it to Baxter, who helped Perry put it into the wound, and Perry noted also that there appeared to be a bubbling sensation in the chest and recommended that chest tubes be put in. Dr. Ron Jones put a chest tube in on the left side and Dr. Baxter and I put it in on the right side I made the incision in the President's chest, and I noted that there was no bleeding from the wound.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you put that chest tube all the way in on the right side?
Dr. PETERS - That's our presumption--yes.
This testimony obviously leads us to Dr. Baxter for further corroboration.
Dr. Baxter - Well, I believe this was Carrico who said that his heart was still beating. There was present at the time two intravenous catheters in place with fluids running. We were informed at that time well, having looked over the rest of the body, the only other wound was in his neck, that we saw.
Dr. Carrico said that he had observed a tracheal laceration. At that moment Dr. Jones, I believe, was placing in a left anterior chest tube because of this information. We proceeded at that time with a tracheotomy.
Mr. Specter - What else, if anything, did you do for President Kennedy at that time?
Dr. Baxter - During the tracheotomy, I helped with the insertion of a right anterior chest tube, and then helped Dr. Perry complete the tracheotomy. At that point none of us could hear a heartbeat present. Apparently this had ceased during the tracheotomy and the chest tube placement.
This of course leads us to Dr. Ronald Jones for even further corroboration.
Mr. SPECTER - What further action was taken by the medical team in addition to that which you have described on the tracheotomy?
Dr. JONES - Well, as Dr. Perry started the tracheotomy, I started the cut down in the left arm to insert a large polyethylene catheter, to give an I.V. so that we could give I.V. solutions as well as blood, and at the same time another doctor or two were doing some cutdowns in the lower extremities around the ankle. We made the cutdown in the left arm in the cephalic vein very rapidly and I.V. fluids were started immediately and as I was doing this, Dr. Perry was performing the tracheotomy, and it was about this time that Dr. Baxter came in and went ahead to assist Dr. Perry with the tracheotomy, and as they made a deeper incision in the neck to isolate the trachea, they thought they saw some gush of air and the possibility of a pneumothorax on one side or the other was entertained, and since I was to the left of the President, I went ahead and put in the anterior chest tube in the second intercostal space.
Mr. SPECTER - Was that tube fully inserted, Doctor?
Dr. JONES - I felt that the tube was fully inserted, and this was immediately connected to underwater drainage.
If this wasn’t enough to show that Dr. Humes was wrong, there is even more. In his WC testimony Dr. Gene Akin said this.
Mr. SPECTER - You have already described some of the treatment which was performed on the President; could you supplement that by describing what else was done for the President?
Dr. AKIN - Other than the placement of chest tubes, artificial respiration, brief external cardiac massage---I don't know. Anything else I said would be hearsay, and I understand that he did receive some cortisone. He received so much Ringer's lactate, but this is not of my own personal knowledge.
Here is what Dr. Robert McClelland testified to.
Mr. SPECTER - What other treatment was given to President Kennedy at the time you were performing the procedures you have just described?
Dr. McCLELLAND - To the best of my knowledge, the other treatment had consisted of the placement of cutdown sites in his extremities, namely, the making of incisions over large veins in the arms and, I believe, in the leg; however, I'm not sure about that, since I was not paying too much attention to that part of the activity, and large plastic tubes were placed into these veins for the giving of blood and fluids, and as I recall, he received a certain amount of blood, but I don't know exactly how much, since I was not actually giving the blood.
In addition to that, of course, while we were working on the tracheotomy incision, the other physicians that I have mentioned were attaching the President rapidly to a cardiac monitor, that is to say, an electrocardiogram, for checking the presence of cardiac activity, and in addition, chest tubes were being placed in the right and left chest---both, as I recall.
Mr. SPECTER - Do you recall who was placing those tubes?
Dr. McCLELLAND - One of the tubes, I believe, was placed by Dr. Peters. The other one, I'm not right certain, I don't really recall---I perhaps better not say.
Mr. SPECTER - Do you know about how long that took in placing those chest tubes?
Dr. McCLELLAND - As well as I am aware, the tubes were both placed in. What this involves is simply putting a trocar, a large hollow tube, and that is put into the small incision, into the anterior chest wall and slipping the tube into the chest between a group of ribs for purposes of relieving any collection of air or fluid which is present in the lungs. The reason this was done was because it was felt that there was probably quite possibly a mediastinal injury with perhaps suffusion of blood and sir into one or both pleural cavities.
This is ample proof showing what Dr. Humes testified to was FALSE, and yet the WC decided to ignore all of this evidence and go with it. How come?
Once again, we see the WC’s OWN evidence sinks their claims and their conclusion.