Post by Rob Caprio on Jul 3, 2023 20:06:31 GMT -5
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) traveled to Mexico City, Mexico, on September 27, 1963. All the evidence that they have provided to us does not support this claim at all, in fact, it shows that LHO was being impersonated in order to set him up later as the patsy in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) on November 22, 1963.
Evidence of this framing can be found in a number of ways, but for the purposes of this post we will look at "evidence" that was clearly planted in LHO's possessions after he was arrested for the murder of JFK (a crime he was never arraigned for by the way). This "evidence" was intended to prove that LHO went to Mexico City by way of Laredo, Texas, as a purchase receipt for $32.00 in clothing was found in LHO's possessions after the assassination.
Did LHO purchase this clothing? We shall see. The story came to the attention of the American public following an article in the "Laredo Times" on November 27, 1963, which stated that LHO had purchased $32.00 worth of clothing from the "Joe Brand Clothing Store" in Laredo. It went on to say that the purchase was verified by Federal investigators through a receipt that was found among his possessions after he was arrested. As is the norm in this case it then gets weird.
On November 26, 1963, a man by the name of Vincent Christie came into the store and said that he was there to investigate a purchase that LHO had made for $40.00.
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An employee of Joe Brand then checked through the old sales receipts and CHRISTIE quickly pointed to one in the amount of $39.89 and said this was the ticket. There was no name on the ticket and CHRISTIE had no additional information such as sales receipt number or name, but merely pointed to the sales receipt in the amount of $39.89, stating it was the purchase made by OSWALD. The receipt contains no name and is for the purchase made on September 21, 1963, by a person who purchased a jacket for $19.98; some shirts; two $2.50 ties, and paid for the purchase with a 500 pesos (Mexican) bill. No employee in the store recalls OSWALD ever making any purchase.
A check at the Laredo Air Force Base for the name of VINCENT W. CHRISTIE or any variation of this name was negative. (Commission Document (CD) 1347, p. 50)
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Who was the person claiming to be Vincent Christie? He clearly was NOT with the Air Force as he claimed and why was he claiming that LHO purchased clothing at the store in September 1963? This would have been great evidence for the WC except for the fact that LHO was not supposed to be in Laredo on September 21, 1963. He had not left New Orleans yet per the WC. Was this man working with those that wanted to frame LHO? The odd thing is he made a purchase himself and paid for it with a check, but IF Christie was his real name then he was passing on a fake check.
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SEYMON DEUTSCH, Joe Brand Clothing Store, advised that an unknown person using the name of VINCENT W. CHRISTIE had come into the Joe Brand Clothing Store on November 26, 1963, and had made a purchase of $6.00 and gave a check for $20.00 drawn on the National Union Bank, Laredo, Texas. (Ibid., p. 51)
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So IF this person was not really named Vincent Christie, then he passed on a bogus check. Why did he claim that the order for $39.89 was made by LHO when there was no way to know this as the receipt had no name on it? Why was he claiming such an odd thing when there was NO way of showing it was correct?
As for the check, here is what the FBI said about it.
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DEUTSCH furnished check drawn on the Union National Bank, Laredo, Texas, dated November 26, 1963, in the amount of $20.00, payable to the order of Joe Brand, signed VINCENT W. CHRISTIE with the number 243-168-1 written under the name. On the back of the check is written Laredo Air Force Base Intelligence Department, extension 903 or 774.
DEUTSCH advised that he had been notified by the Union National Bank that the bank is unable to locate any account for VINCENT W. CHRISTIE. (Ibid.)
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What gall this person had to pass a fake check AND claim that he was with the Air Force Base intelligence department. Who would do all of this just to associate a purchase with LHO? These questions would be dangerous for the WC, so despite the December 3, 1963, FBI report stating that NO Vincent Christie could be found on the Air Force base we had a different answer in January 1964.
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Major JOHN W. NELSON...presented a check dated November 29, 1963, in the amount of $20 and drawn on Union National Bank of Laredo, Texas. The check was signed by VINCENT W. CHRISTIE.
The endorsement on the back of the check revealed the name of VINCENT W. CHRISTIE, Airman Third Class, Serial Number AF 17658663. This endorsement further revealed that CHRISTIE was assigned to the 2851st Air Base Wing, Kelly Air Force Wing, Kelly Air Force Base, Texas. The telephone number registered on the back of the check was 6884. (Ibid., p. 54)
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Why was this IMPOSSIBLE to do in December 1963? The FBI stated that NO one by the name of Vincent Christie could be located on the Air Force base, but suddenly they located one in January 1964? How? Where did this person come from all of a sudden? The FBI never explained this for us so we are left wondering. Another issue is the above information about the check mentions the date of November 29, 1963, but the man claiming to be the supposed non-existing Vincent Christie was at the store on November 26, 1963. Was it standard practice to allow customers to post-date their checks for purchases? I realize things may have been different in 1963 but stores I have shopped in over the years would not take post-dated checks as they wanted to cash them right away to make sure they were good.
They then report that Christie had a habit of writing checks he did not have money for. Supposedly he ran up a $66.00 tab doing this in Texas and Wyoming. (Ibid., p. 53) This is preposterous as the military would never have allowed this as he would have faced charges the first time he did it and it was reported. The military is tough on things like this and also on debt as a person cannot end their term of service if they are in debt as the military frowns on it.
The issue I still have is, how did they say he didn't exist and then all of a sudden, he did? Doesn't this sound suspicious to you? Was he even part of the military? Later on page 57 we see that Christie was living in Powell, Wyoming, but trying to get a license to sell insurance in Montana. It gets even weirder as on page 58 we see a written statement from him in which he says he was discharged from the U.S. Army in June 1963! I thought he was in the Air Force? Well, it seems that he would enlist in the Air Force after he got out of the Army and this isn't uncommon as many service members have culture shock when they get out. Because he failed to mention his previous service, he was told he could get out if he wanted and he chose to leave the Air Force in mid-October 1963. He said that he went to Houston, Texas, and took a job as a shoe salesman. So why was he in Laredo then?
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Well, it seems he quit his job on either November 19 or 20, 1963, then he stayed in Laredo for a week and then went home to Wyoming. We finally get into the topic as he claims that he went to the store for some clothes and the salesman mentioned that LHO had "been through Laredo" on his way to and from Mexico. Of course we know that this is false. Why did the salesman bring this up? Christie then told the salesman that LHO had been in this store and had made a purchase because he saw the receipt at Laredo AFB after it had been "taken from LHO's personal effects." (Ibid., p. 59) He was then asked to look and see if he could recognize the receipt as I guess this would be something the store could brag about. Christie said the situation began to get out of hand so he said he had to go and asked that they not mention this to anyone. He claims he never said that he was with Air Force intelligence. (Ibid.)
Of course, he was just playing the role of a "big shot" according to the statement, but this doesn't explain how he saw the receipt at the base when he was NOT even in the Air Force anymore. Furthermore, why would the Air Force have LHO's personal effects? IF LHO really shopped there, and that is highly doubtful, why would the Air Force be involved and why would they detain him and take his personal effects? This sounds like a cover-up to me.
It is apparent that LHO was going to be framed with this as it would prove he was in Laredo as the WC would claim later, but the problem was the date as it had him there on September 21 when he was still in New Orleans. This foiled an elaborate setup in my opinion as they possibly had military intelligence involved with this scam. Had the dates worked they could have said, "Yes, LHO was in Laredo, and he was even detained by members of the Air Force base (insert reason why) and we looked at his personal effects and noticed a receipt for the Joe Brand Clothing Store." You can figure out the rest for yourself.
Once it was apparent that this wasn't going to work, we saw the mass retreat in play. They found a man who they earlier said didn't exist and gave us a lot of information on him which shows he was a common check bouncer. None of this makes a bit of sense. This happened a lot in this case as the conspirators went too far on a number of occasions as their plans to frame LHO went awry due to some timing issue in terms of where the real (or at least the one killed in Dallas) was located. The month of November alone must have made the WC's combined head explode as LHO was seen everywhere when he was at work.
Further proof that Christie was much more than claimed was that for all the bad checks and his lying about being with Air Force Intelligence all he received was an "admonishment" from the FBI and he promised not to do it again in the future. (Ibid., p. 64) Please. If any regular person did all of this, he/she would be facing charges, I am sure. (See page 65 for the charges he could have faced.)
The full-court press to frame LHO caused more problems for the WC than it did help them as it had LHO in too many places that he could not have been in. The entire invention of the Mexico City story is yet another example of this. It was a frame too far.
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) traveled to Mexico City, Mexico, on September 27, 1963. All the evidence that they have provided to us does not support this claim at all, in fact, it shows that LHO was being impersonated in order to set him up later as the patsy in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) on November 22, 1963.
Evidence of this framing can be found in a number of ways, but for the purposes of this post we will look at "evidence" that was clearly planted in LHO's possessions after he was arrested for the murder of JFK (a crime he was never arraigned for by the way). This "evidence" was intended to prove that LHO went to Mexico City by way of Laredo, Texas, as a purchase receipt for $32.00 in clothing was found in LHO's possessions after the assassination.
Did LHO purchase this clothing? We shall see. The story came to the attention of the American public following an article in the "Laredo Times" on November 27, 1963, which stated that LHO had purchased $32.00 worth of clothing from the "Joe Brand Clothing Store" in Laredo. It went on to say that the purchase was verified by Federal investigators through a receipt that was found among his possessions after he was arrested. As is the norm in this case it then gets weird.
On November 26, 1963, a man by the name of Vincent Christie came into the store and said that he was there to investigate a purchase that LHO had made for $40.00.
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An employee of Joe Brand then checked through the old sales receipts and CHRISTIE quickly pointed to one in the amount of $39.89 and said this was the ticket. There was no name on the ticket and CHRISTIE had no additional information such as sales receipt number or name, but merely pointed to the sales receipt in the amount of $39.89, stating it was the purchase made by OSWALD. The receipt contains no name and is for the purchase made on September 21, 1963, by a person who purchased a jacket for $19.98; some shirts; two $2.50 ties, and paid for the purchase with a 500 pesos (Mexican) bill. No employee in the store recalls OSWALD ever making any purchase.
A check at the Laredo Air Force Base for the name of VINCENT W. CHRISTIE or any variation of this name was negative. (Commission Document (CD) 1347, p. 50)
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Who was the person claiming to be Vincent Christie? He clearly was NOT with the Air Force as he claimed and why was he claiming that LHO purchased clothing at the store in September 1963? This would have been great evidence for the WC except for the fact that LHO was not supposed to be in Laredo on September 21, 1963. He had not left New Orleans yet per the WC. Was this man working with those that wanted to frame LHO? The odd thing is he made a purchase himself and paid for it with a check, but IF Christie was his real name then he was passing on a fake check.
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SEYMON DEUTSCH, Joe Brand Clothing Store, advised that an unknown person using the name of VINCENT W. CHRISTIE had come into the Joe Brand Clothing Store on November 26, 1963, and had made a purchase of $6.00 and gave a check for $20.00 drawn on the National Union Bank, Laredo, Texas. (Ibid., p. 51)
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So IF this person was not really named Vincent Christie, then he passed on a bogus check. Why did he claim that the order for $39.89 was made by LHO when there was no way to know this as the receipt had no name on it? Why was he claiming such an odd thing when there was NO way of showing it was correct?
As for the check, here is what the FBI said about it.
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DEUTSCH furnished check drawn on the Union National Bank, Laredo, Texas, dated November 26, 1963, in the amount of $20.00, payable to the order of Joe Brand, signed VINCENT W. CHRISTIE with the number 243-168-1 written under the name. On the back of the check is written Laredo Air Force Base Intelligence Department, extension 903 or 774.
DEUTSCH advised that he had been notified by the Union National Bank that the bank is unable to locate any account for VINCENT W. CHRISTIE. (Ibid.)
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What gall this person had to pass a fake check AND claim that he was with the Air Force Base intelligence department. Who would do all of this just to associate a purchase with LHO? These questions would be dangerous for the WC, so despite the December 3, 1963, FBI report stating that NO Vincent Christie could be found on the Air Force base we had a different answer in January 1964.
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Major JOHN W. NELSON...presented a check dated November 29, 1963, in the amount of $20 and drawn on Union National Bank of Laredo, Texas. The check was signed by VINCENT W. CHRISTIE.
The endorsement on the back of the check revealed the name of VINCENT W. CHRISTIE, Airman Third Class, Serial Number AF 17658663. This endorsement further revealed that CHRISTIE was assigned to the 2851st Air Base Wing, Kelly Air Force Wing, Kelly Air Force Base, Texas. The telephone number registered on the back of the check was 6884. (Ibid., p. 54)
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Why was this IMPOSSIBLE to do in December 1963? The FBI stated that NO one by the name of Vincent Christie could be located on the Air Force base, but suddenly they located one in January 1964? How? Where did this person come from all of a sudden? The FBI never explained this for us so we are left wondering. Another issue is the above information about the check mentions the date of November 29, 1963, but the man claiming to be the supposed non-existing Vincent Christie was at the store on November 26, 1963. Was it standard practice to allow customers to post-date their checks for purchases? I realize things may have been different in 1963 but stores I have shopped in over the years would not take post-dated checks as they wanted to cash them right away to make sure they were good.
They then report that Christie had a habit of writing checks he did not have money for. Supposedly he ran up a $66.00 tab doing this in Texas and Wyoming. (Ibid., p. 53) This is preposterous as the military would never have allowed this as he would have faced charges the first time he did it and it was reported. The military is tough on things like this and also on debt as a person cannot end their term of service if they are in debt as the military frowns on it.
The issue I still have is, how did they say he didn't exist and then all of a sudden, he did? Doesn't this sound suspicious to you? Was he even part of the military? Later on page 57 we see that Christie was living in Powell, Wyoming, but trying to get a license to sell insurance in Montana. It gets even weirder as on page 58 we see a written statement from him in which he says he was discharged from the U.S. Army in June 1963! I thought he was in the Air Force? Well, it seems that he would enlist in the Air Force after he got out of the Army and this isn't uncommon as many service members have culture shock when they get out. Because he failed to mention his previous service, he was told he could get out if he wanted and he chose to leave the Air Force in mid-October 1963. He said that he went to Houston, Texas, and took a job as a shoe salesman. So why was he in Laredo then?
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11742#relPageId=65
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11742#relPageId=66
Well, it seems he quit his job on either November 19 or 20, 1963, then he stayed in Laredo for a week and then went home to Wyoming. We finally get into the topic as he claims that he went to the store for some clothes and the salesman mentioned that LHO had "been through Laredo" on his way to and from Mexico. Of course we know that this is false. Why did the salesman bring this up? Christie then told the salesman that LHO had been in this store and had made a purchase because he saw the receipt at Laredo AFB after it had been "taken from LHO's personal effects." (Ibid., p. 59) He was then asked to look and see if he could recognize the receipt as I guess this would be something the store could brag about. Christie said the situation began to get out of hand so he said he had to go and asked that they not mention this to anyone. He claims he never said that he was with Air Force intelligence. (Ibid.)
Of course, he was just playing the role of a "big shot" according to the statement, but this doesn't explain how he saw the receipt at the base when he was NOT even in the Air Force anymore. Furthermore, why would the Air Force have LHO's personal effects? IF LHO really shopped there, and that is highly doubtful, why would the Air Force be involved and why would they detain him and take his personal effects? This sounds like a cover-up to me.
It is apparent that LHO was going to be framed with this as it would prove he was in Laredo as the WC would claim later, but the problem was the date as it had him there on September 21 when he was still in New Orleans. This foiled an elaborate setup in my opinion as they possibly had military intelligence involved with this scam. Had the dates worked they could have said, "Yes, LHO was in Laredo, and he was even detained by members of the Air Force base (insert reason why) and we looked at his personal effects and noticed a receipt for the Joe Brand Clothing Store." You can figure out the rest for yourself.
Once it was apparent that this wasn't going to work, we saw the mass retreat in play. They found a man who they earlier said didn't exist and gave us a lot of information on him which shows he was a common check bouncer. None of this makes a bit of sense. This happened a lot in this case as the conspirators went too far on a number of occasions as their plans to frame LHO went awry due to some timing issue in terms of where the real (or at least the one killed in Dallas) was located. The month of November alone must have made the WC's combined head explode as LHO was seen everywhere when he was at work.
Further proof that Christie was much more than claimed was that for all the bad checks and his lying about being with Air Force Intelligence all he received was an "admonishment" from the FBI and he promised not to do it again in the future. (Ibid., p. 64) Please. If any regular person did all of this, he/she would be facing charges, I am sure. (See page 65 for the charges he could have faced.)
The full-court press to frame LHO caused more problems for the WC than it did help them as it had LHO in too many places that he could not have been in. The entire invention of the Mexico City story is yet another example of this. It was a frame too far.