Post by Rob Caprio on Mar 18, 2024 19:41:42 GMT -5
All portions are ©️ Robert Caprio 2006-2025
Notice that Elm Street is the same width as Main Street, so, why wasn't it used to avoid those illegal turns on Houston and then Elm Street?
www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~mnat/~ball0888/oswald/plaza.jpg
Both of these turns broke Secret Service rules which prohibited turns greater than 90 degrees.
i.pinimg.com/736x/13/4d/ae/134dae40abf23c776c03c9d3175624ec--famous-landmarks-charla.jpg
Elm Street:
live.staticflickr.com/4010/4664462973_c59498971d.jpg
[Note: This was written at least ten years ago, and I posted it in the JFK Assassination Forum before it was purged with my entire series (461 installments) for no reason other than lathering the WC defenders up.
This is such a basic question that I have never seen asked by any other researcher in my long time studying and researching this case. I may have missed someone asking this, but I can't recall it even being discussed on the various forums I was a member of for many years.
It is vital to understand that this was a viable option, but it was discarded because the TWO TURNS were necessary for the shooting to be a success. No wonder the WC defenders went nuts over this one.]
The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) assassinated President John F. Kennedy (JFK), wounded Governor John B. Connolly (JBC), killed Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit (JDT), attempted to assassinate retired General Edwin A. Walker (EAW), and that he went to Mexico City, Mexico.
Of course, they provided absolutely no supporting evidence for any of these claims in the twenty-six volumes.
This post doesn't deal with any these topics, but rather drills down to a very specific topic that sheds light on how the WC dealt with issues that didn't fit their theory.
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If the motorcade’s destination was Stemmons Freeway, why didn't it use Elm Street instead of Main Street?
Here is what the WC wrote about the motorcade route in their report.
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historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/pages/WCReport_0028a.gif
Even before the Trade Mart had been definitely selected, Lawson and Sorrels began to consider the best motorcade route from Love Field to the Trade Mart. On November 14, Lawson and Sorrels attended a meeting at Love Field and on their return to Dallas drove over the route which Sorrels believed best suited for the proposed motorcade.
From Love Field the route passed through a portion of suburban Dallas, through the downtown area along Main Street then to the Trade Mart via Stemmons Freeway. (WCR, p. 31)
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0028a.htm
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This passage reflects the thought that using Main Street was the best way to travel from Love Field to Dealey Plaza (DP) because “it offered wide streets”. (WCR, p. 32) The WC provided us with a map to illustrate what they had written.
Here is CE 2113:
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/pages/WH_Vol24_0281a.gif
Several things jump out when we look at this map. Firstly, the claim that Main Street was the best option because it had a wider street for the buses in the motorcade is suspect. Perhaps it did have a wide street but so did Elm Street based on the map. The street width depicted is identical, thus, the excuse given for Main Street's selection is not supported by the map provided to us.
Secondly, the destination of the motorcade was the Trade Mart via Stemmons Freeway. If you look at the map you will see that Stemmons Freeway was designated as Route 77 and could have been reached directly from Elm Street. This means that the motorcade should simply have turned onto Elm Street and headed toward the Stemmons Freeway entrance instead of turning onto Main Street, and then making the turns onto Houston and Elm Streets which required speed slowing turns.
Elm Street was as wide as Main Street according to the map so that shouldn't have been an issue. If Main Street had to be the choice then the motorcade should have proceeded onto Industrial Boulevard which would have taken them to the Trade Mart. The excuse that the WC gave us doesn't cut it in justifying why two turns were chosen over two DIRECT routes.
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historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/pages/WCReport_0028b.gif
Elm Street, parallel to Main Street and one block north, was not used for the main portion of the downtown part of the motorcade because Main Street offered better vantage points for spectators. (WCR, p. 32)
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0028b.htm
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Again, if we look at the map, we see that Elm and Main Streets have the same configuration so what better vantage points did Main offer that Elm did not?
The WC even admitted that “the only practical way for westbound traffic on Main Street to reach the northbound lanes of the Stemmons Freeway is via Elm Street…” (Ibid.) and then describes the two turns needed to make this happen.
What the WC doesn't do is act as a true investigative body and ask the simple question of “Why were the two turns needed when the motorcade could have simply used Elm Street instead of Main Street?” No, they weren't interested in asking this question and instead preferred to make ridiculous claims of why those two turns were part of the motorcade. What they had NO desire to find out is why these two turns were part of the motorcade when there was NO need for them.
Clearly, they were added to slow the motorcade down considerably, so the real assassins had a better chance of success. This one issue shows that a conspiracy was involved in the assassination as LHO could NOT have gotten the Secret Service (SS) to choose this route even if he was the lone assassin as claimed.
The motorcade topic is discussed often by JFK assassination researchers, but none that I have read made this point – Elm Street should have been the route chosen through the downtown area since it led directly to the Stemmons Freeway entrance.
The WC failed to explore and explain why the SS didn't simply choose to use Elm Street instead of Main Street which would have eliminated the excessive turns which slowed down the motorcade considerably, and this was a major reason why JFK was successfully assassinated too. Therefore, their conclusion cannot possibly be correct and is sunk again.
Notice that Elm Street is the same width as Main Street, so, why wasn't it used to avoid those illegal turns on Houston and then Elm Street?
www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~mnat/~ball0888/oswald/plaza.jpg
Both of these turns broke Secret Service rules which prohibited turns greater than 90 degrees.
i.pinimg.com/736x/13/4d/ae/134dae40abf23c776c03c9d3175624ec--famous-landmarks-charla.jpg
Elm Street:
live.staticflickr.com/4010/4664462973_c59498971d.jpg
[Note: This was written at least ten years ago, and I posted it in the JFK Assassination Forum before it was purged with my entire series (461 installments) for no reason other than lathering the WC defenders up.
This is such a basic question that I have never seen asked by any other researcher in my long time studying and researching this case. I may have missed someone asking this, but I can't recall it even being discussed on the various forums I was a member of for many years.
It is vital to understand that this was a viable option, but it was discarded because the TWO TURNS were necessary for the shooting to be a success. No wonder the WC defenders went nuts over this one.]
The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) assassinated President John F. Kennedy (JFK), wounded Governor John B. Connolly (JBC), killed Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit (JDT), attempted to assassinate retired General Edwin A. Walker (EAW), and that he went to Mexico City, Mexico.
Of course, they provided absolutely no supporting evidence for any of these claims in the twenty-six volumes.
This post doesn't deal with any these topics, but rather drills down to a very specific topic that sheds light on how the WC dealt with issues that didn't fit their theory.
*********************************************************
If the motorcade’s destination was Stemmons Freeway, why didn't it use Elm Street instead of Main Street?
Here is what the WC wrote about the motorcade route in their report.
Quote on
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/pages/WCReport_0028a.gif
Even before the Trade Mart had been definitely selected, Lawson and Sorrels began to consider the best motorcade route from Love Field to the Trade Mart. On November 14, Lawson and Sorrels attended a meeting at Love Field and on their return to Dallas drove over the route which Sorrels believed best suited for the proposed motorcade.
From Love Field the route passed through a portion of suburban Dallas, through the downtown area along Main Street then to the Trade Mart via Stemmons Freeway. (WCR, p. 31)
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0028a.htm
Quote off
This passage reflects the thought that using Main Street was the best way to travel from Love Field to Dealey Plaza (DP) because “it offered wide streets”. (WCR, p. 32) The WC provided us with a map to illustrate what they had written.
Here is CE 2113:
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/pages/WH_Vol24_0281a.gif
Several things jump out when we look at this map. Firstly, the claim that Main Street was the best option because it had a wider street for the buses in the motorcade is suspect. Perhaps it did have a wide street but so did Elm Street based on the map. The street width depicted is identical, thus, the excuse given for Main Street's selection is not supported by the map provided to us.
Secondly, the destination of the motorcade was the Trade Mart via Stemmons Freeway. If you look at the map you will see that Stemmons Freeway was designated as Route 77 and could have been reached directly from Elm Street. This means that the motorcade should simply have turned onto Elm Street and headed toward the Stemmons Freeway entrance instead of turning onto Main Street, and then making the turns onto Houston and Elm Streets which required speed slowing turns.
Elm Street was as wide as Main Street according to the map so that shouldn't have been an issue. If Main Street had to be the choice then the motorcade should have proceeded onto Industrial Boulevard which would have taken them to the Trade Mart. The excuse that the WC gave us doesn't cut it in justifying why two turns were chosen over two DIRECT routes.
Quote on
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/pages/WCReport_0028b.gif
Elm Street, parallel to Main Street and one block north, was not used for the main portion of the downtown part of the motorcade because Main Street offered better vantage points for spectators. (WCR, p. 32)
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0028b.htm
Quote off
Again, if we look at the map, we see that Elm and Main Streets have the same configuration so what better vantage points did Main offer that Elm did not?
The WC even admitted that “the only practical way for westbound traffic on Main Street to reach the northbound lanes of the Stemmons Freeway is via Elm Street…” (Ibid.) and then describes the two turns needed to make this happen.
What the WC doesn't do is act as a true investigative body and ask the simple question of “Why were the two turns needed when the motorcade could have simply used Elm Street instead of Main Street?” No, they weren't interested in asking this question and instead preferred to make ridiculous claims of why those two turns were part of the motorcade. What they had NO desire to find out is why these two turns were part of the motorcade when there was NO need for them.
Clearly, they were added to slow the motorcade down considerably, so the real assassins had a better chance of success. This one issue shows that a conspiracy was involved in the assassination as LHO could NOT have gotten the Secret Service (SS) to choose this route even if he was the lone assassin as claimed.
The motorcade topic is discussed often by JFK assassination researchers, but none that I have read made this point – Elm Street should have been the route chosen through the downtown area since it led directly to the Stemmons Freeway entrance.
The WC failed to explore and explain why the SS didn't simply choose to use Elm Street instead of Main Street which would have eliminated the excessive turns which slowed down the motorcade considerably, and this was a major reason why JFK was successfully assassinated too. Therefore, their conclusion cannot possibly be correct and is sunk again.