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THE BOOK BUILDING
RUTH and ROY'S PLACE
By Raymond Gallagher 1/2009
The building is the secret - if ya wanna know the truth. And how they got Lee [Harvey Oswald] in there-ya needa ask Miss Ruth [Paine].
The place is full of cubby-holes and spots where you could hide. And you didn't need a stairway - there were other ways outside.
An architect could show you how the dirty deed was done; and, where the man was hiding - the man who shot the gun.
When the policeman came and asked the man to help him find his way, the guy in charge of everything had only this to say:
"Would you like to see the basement? Or the stairway would be fun! The shooter should be out by now; there's no need for us to run."
We know these folks weren't strangers - they knew each other well. And soon they'll be together to celebrate in HELL.
So, the building is the secret - take another look. The secret isn't magic - the answer's in the book.
Unfortunately, little attention was paid to the back section of the TSBD in 1963, or even since. It is even difficult to locate clear pictures of the rear of 411 Elm St. as it was in 1963.
To better understand the construction, it would be advantageous to have copies of the WR Commission Exhibits that show the architectural layout of the various floors. CE 1061 shows the first floor; CE 1118 and CE 497, the second floor. Other floors are CE 507 (7TH), CE 487 (5TH) and CE 483 (6TH).
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Notice that there are 5 sets of windows (10) along the back of the building on all floors except the first floor. Also notice that the westernmost of the windows is located next to the stairwell and west of the two freight elevators.
Attached to the rear of the building was the loading dock (no longer there) that had two separate entrances to the building: one to the loading dock itself and another to the Houston St. Dock. (See CE 1061, CE 362)
Over these docks were two roofs: one over the main dock and one over the Houston St. Dock. There was also a dock on the west side of the building with two large overhead doors.
The second floor is especially interesting, since it was here that LHO was seen about 90 seconds (questionable time) after the final shot. It was also here that he was seen heading for the front stairway: and noticed that there are two restrooms on the west side of the building, with windows facing the triple underpass. Even alleged assassins have to pee. While watching the President of the American Empire being murdered by members of the political plutocracy.
Since numerous witnesses testified that they saw a person, or persons, running away from the TSBD after the shooting, I am suggesting that it was possible for a shooter to exit the place before [Dallas Police Officer Marrion] Baker and Ruth Paine's friend, [TSBD Superintendent Roy] Truly, reached the second floor (or even after, since they left the stairwell to encounter LHO).
Additionally, it would have been possible to exit the building via the windows above the second floor. It would not have taken a circus maneuver for someone to drop to the roof outside the window, over the docks, and then with another short drop to the ground, escape without encounter or capture.
You should have been there.
..
For other interest see Exhibits: CE 491, CE 488, Ce 489, and THE CHICAGO ORDER, CE 490.
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First, a bit about the TSBD building and the history of the company. The now famous building at 411 Elm Street, In Dallas, was built in 1903. The original owner was International Harvester. In 1936, D.H. (dry hole) Byrd, a Texas oil tycoon, bought the building with the intention of using it to manufacture air conditioning units. The plan never developed, and the building stood vacant from 1936 to 1940.
Byrd then leased the place to Sexton Grocery who used the building as an office and grocery warehouse. Sexton moved out in late 1961 and the book company took out a lease in late 1962.
The TSBD Company was organized in 1908 and incorporated in 1927. Through the 40's, they were located at 2210 Pacific Ave. In 1950, they acquired a four-story warehouse at 1917 No. Houston St. (They still operated it in 1963).
In 1952, they moved their management and clerical personnel to 501 Elm St. (The first floor of the Dal-Tex Building across the street from the present TSBD building). In 1962, the city directory showed the warehouse as vacant.
In November 1963, Ruth's pal, Roy Truly, the manager, told the FBI:
"We had occupied the building at 411 Elm St. for only a few months; the building was occupied by a wholesale grocery company engaged in supplying restaurants and institutions." FBI File DL 100-10461.
On 11-22-63, the first person to see LHO was Patrolman Marion L. Baker, who was riding a two-wheeled motorcycle in the motorcade. As he approached the corner of Houston and Elm St, he heard shots that he believed came from the building in front of him, or the building to the right of him, which was the Dal-Tex Building. He noticed pigeons flying from the top of the TSBD and decided to investigate.
Suspicious that the shots came from the upper floors, the officer entered the front door of the building, encountered Truly, the manager, and asked to be directed to the elevator, or the stairs that led to the upper floors, where he concluded he would find the shooter.
TRULY: "...As he ran up the stairway--I mean the steps, I was almost to the steps, I ran up with him inside the lobby of the building, or possibly the front steps, I don't remember that close. But I remember it occurred to me that this man wants on top of the building. He doesn't know the plan of the floor-and that is-that just popped into my mind and I ran in with him. As we got in the lobby, almost on the inside of the first floor, this policeman asked me where the stairway i and I said, 'This way,' And I ran diagonally across to the northwest corner of the building." Vol.3, p.221 WR
Roy Sanson Truly showed signs of clairvoyance here. Despite the fact that he believed that someone had shot at the President from west of his building, he knew that the policeman knew otherwise and "wants on top of the building." And why he guided the officer to the northwest corner of the first floor, to the rear stairway and the rear freight elevators, is confusing, since there was a stairway and an elevator several feet from where the two men were standing, in the front lobby of the building.
It was true that the lobby stairway only went to the second floor and the elevator only went to the fourth floor, but doesn't it seem natural to head upward from the nearest point and make the move to the rear stairway after reaching the fourth floor, and especially since Truly knew the building better than Baker.
In the May, 1994 issue, of FOURTH DECADE, Wm. Weston provided researchers with information about the TSBD building and its history. His title: 411 Main Street.
jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1568/spiders-web-history-tsbd
The author tells us that the book people had occupied the address for only a couple of months before doing considerable renovation prior to moving in. In addition to the new heating and air conditioning, a narrow shaft - a dumbwaiter- was installed from the fourth floor to the first to facilitate the paperwork movement. From Weston's work:
"When the construction of the new office suites had been completed, they initially had one significant drawback: the only means of access to them was either the front stairs, which went up to the second floor, and/or the stairs in the northwest corner of the building which ascended all the way up to the seventh floor. They could not use the two big freight elevators in the back of the building, for they were reserved for the warehouse workers. Climbing up and down stairs every day was a minor hardship for some people. Yet, this problem was later rectified when a newly constructed passenger elevator became operational.
"As soon as the passenger elevator became operational, the stairway in the northwest corner was closed off in lieu of 'repairs.' No one was allowed to use it. The nature of these repairs remains unknown, although they were not the kind that prevented heavy use of the stairs on the day of the assassination."
From testimony of Pauline Sanders, employee: FBI interview. "SANDERS advised that the stairwell would probably have been the easiest way for Oswald to leave without being too noticeable since the stairwell is in need of repairs and employees had been instructed not to use the stairwell."
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1317#relPageId=875
Yet, Truly, who probably was responsible for the directive, took Officer Baker to the farthest point in the building to reach the upper floors.
Amen and amen
[The whole Baker-Oswald encounter is fishy and some think it never happened. For more on this topic, you can read this article.
jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1809/statements-sink-wcs-conclusions-501
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THE BOOK BUILDING
RUTH and ROY'S PLACE
By Raymond Gallagher 1/2009
The building is the secret - if ya wanna know the truth. And how they got Lee [Harvey Oswald] in there-ya needa ask Miss Ruth [Paine].
The place is full of cubby-holes and spots where you could hide. And you didn't need a stairway - there were other ways outside.
An architect could show you how the dirty deed was done; and, where the man was hiding - the man who shot the gun.
When the policeman came and asked the man to help him find his way, the guy in charge of everything had only this to say:
"Would you like to see the basement? Or the stairway would be fun! The shooter should be out by now; there's no need for us to run."
We know these folks weren't strangers - they knew each other well. And soon they'll be together to celebrate in HELL.
So, the building is the secret - take another look. The secret isn't magic - the answer's in the book.
Unfortunately, little attention was paid to the back section of the TSBD in 1963, or even since. It is even difficult to locate clear pictures of the rear of 411 Elm St. as it was in 1963.
To better understand the construction, it would be advantageous to have copies of the WR Commission Exhibits that show the architectural layout of the various floors. CE 1061 shows the first floor; CE 1118 and CE 497, the second floor. Other floors are CE 507 (7TH), CE 487 (5TH) and CE 483 (6TH).
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pages/WH_Vol22_0021b.gif
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pages/WH_Vol22_0058a.gif
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Notice that there are 5 sets of windows (10) along the back of the building on all floors except the first floor. Also notice that the westernmost of the windows is located next to the stairwell and west of the two freight elevators.
Attached to the rear of the building was the loading dock (no longer there) that had two separate entrances to the building: one to the loading dock itself and another to the Houston St. Dock. (See CE 1061, CE 362)
Over these docks were two roofs: one over the main dock and one over the Houston St. Dock. There was also a dock on the west side of the building with two large overhead doors.
The second floor is especially interesting, since it was here that LHO was seen about 90 seconds (questionable time) after the final shot. It was also here that he was seen heading for the front stairway: and noticed that there are two restrooms on the west side of the building, with windows facing the triple underpass. Even alleged assassins have to pee. While watching the President of the American Empire being murdered by members of the political plutocracy.
Since numerous witnesses testified that they saw a person, or persons, running away from the TSBD after the shooting, I am suggesting that it was possible for a shooter to exit the place before [Dallas Police Officer Marrion] Baker and Ruth Paine's friend, [TSBD Superintendent Roy] Truly, reached the second floor (or even after, since they left the stairwell to encounter LHO).
Additionally, it would have been possible to exit the building via the windows above the second floor. It would not have taken a circus maneuver for someone to drop to the roof outside the window, over the docks, and then with another short drop to the ground, escape without encounter or capture.
You should have been there.
..
For other interest see Exhibits: CE 491, CE 488, Ce 489, and THE CHICAGO ORDER, CE 490.
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pages/WH_Vol17_0116b.jpg
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First, a bit about the TSBD building and the history of the company. The now famous building at 411 Elm Street, In Dallas, was built in 1903. The original owner was International Harvester. In 1936, D.H. (dry hole) Byrd, a Texas oil tycoon, bought the building with the intention of using it to manufacture air conditioning units. The plan never developed, and the building stood vacant from 1936 to 1940.
Byrd then leased the place to Sexton Grocery who used the building as an office and grocery warehouse. Sexton moved out in late 1961 and the book company took out a lease in late 1962.
The TSBD Company was organized in 1908 and incorporated in 1927. Through the 40's, they were located at 2210 Pacific Ave. In 1950, they acquired a four-story warehouse at 1917 No. Houston St. (They still operated it in 1963).
In 1952, they moved their management and clerical personnel to 501 Elm St. (The first floor of the Dal-Tex Building across the street from the present TSBD building). In 1962, the city directory showed the warehouse as vacant.
In November 1963, Ruth's pal, Roy Truly, the manager, told the FBI:
"We had occupied the building at 411 Elm St. for only a few months; the building was occupied by a wholesale grocery company engaged in supplying restaurants and institutions." FBI File DL 100-10461.
On 11-22-63, the first person to see LHO was Patrolman Marion L. Baker, who was riding a two-wheeled motorcycle in the motorcade. As he approached the corner of Houston and Elm St, he heard shots that he believed came from the building in front of him, or the building to the right of him, which was the Dal-Tex Building. He noticed pigeons flying from the top of the TSBD and decided to investigate.
Suspicious that the shots came from the upper floors, the officer entered the front door of the building, encountered Truly, the manager, and asked to be directed to the elevator, or the stairs that led to the upper floors, where he concluded he would find the shooter.
TRULY: "...As he ran up the stairway--I mean the steps, I was almost to the steps, I ran up with him inside the lobby of the building, or possibly the front steps, I don't remember that close. But I remember it occurred to me that this man wants on top of the building. He doesn't know the plan of the floor-and that is-that just popped into my mind and I ran in with him. As we got in the lobby, almost on the inside of the first floor, this policeman asked me where the stairway i and I said, 'This way,' And I ran diagonally across to the northwest corner of the building." Vol.3, p.221 WR
Roy Sanson Truly showed signs of clairvoyance here. Despite the fact that he believed that someone had shot at the President from west of his building, he knew that the policeman knew otherwise and "wants on top of the building." And why he guided the officer to the northwest corner of the first floor, to the rear stairway and the rear freight elevators, is confusing, since there was a stairway and an elevator several feet from where the two men were standing, in the front lobby of the building.
It was true that the lobby stairway only went to the second floor and the elevator only went to the fourth floor, but doesn't it seem natural to head upward from the nearest point and make the move to the rear stairway after reaching the fourth floor, and especially since Truly knew the building better than Baker.
In the May, 1994 issue, of FOURTH DECADE, Wm. Weston provided researchers with information about the TSBD building and its history. His title: 411 Main Street.
jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1568/spiders-web-history-tsbd
The author tells us that the book people had occupied the address for only a couple of months before doing considerable renovation prior to moving in. In addition to the new heating and air conditioning, a narrow shaft - a dumbwaiter- was installed from the fourth floor to the first to facilitate the paperwork movement. From Weston's work:
"When the construction of the new office suites had been completed, they initially had one significant drawback: the only means of access to them was either the front stairs, which went up to the second floor, and/or the stairs in the northwest corner of the building which ascended all the way up to the seventh floor. They could not use the two big freight elevators in the back of the building, for they were reserved for the warehouse workers. Climbing up and down stairs every day was a minor hardship for some people. Yet, this problem was later rectified when a newly constructed passenger elevator became operational.
"As soon as the passenger elevator became operational, the stairway in the northwest corner was closed off in lieu of 'repairs.' No one was allowed to use it. The nature of these repairs remains unknown, although they were not the kind that prevented heavy use of the stairs on the day of the assassination."
From testimony of Pauline Sanders, employee: FBI interview. "SANDERS advised that the stairwell would probably have been the easiest way for Oswald to leave without being too noticeable since the stairwell is in need of repairs and employees had been instructed not to use the stairwell."
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1317#relPageId=875
Yet, Truly, who probably was responsible for the directive, took Officer Baker to the farthest point in the building to reach the upper floors.
Amen and amen
[The whole Baker-Oswald encounter is fishy and some think it never happened. For more on this topic, you can read this article.
jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1809/statements-sink-wcs-conclusions-501