Post by Rob Caprio on Jan 20, 2019 23:04:42 GMT -5
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Edward Whalen was a career criminal as he spent a large part of his adult life in prison. A friend of his arranged for him to talk with David Ferrie in early 1967 when he was in Columbus, Ohio. Ferrie asked Whalen to come to New Orleans to make some “big money". Whalen learned that the money would be made by hitting the Jung Hotel and a small jewelry store nearby it, but this wasn't the truth.
Since he was free and not in jail, and had recently stolen a new car, he drove down to New Orleans to find out more. He ditched the hot car on a side street and met Ferrie at the Absinthe House on Bourbon Street.
Ferrie was the chatty type and began their discussion with his flying ability, but Whalen cut him off and asked him to get to the point. Whalen said that he needed money since he was on his run from the police. Ferrie assured him that he could earn good money and that Ferrie would fly him out of the country after the job. Ferrie provided no details of the job at this first meeting.
Ferrie provided Whalen with an apartment to stay in and older model Ford to use. They agreed to meet the next evening back at the Absinthe House. The second meeting included a new person who was introduced as Clay Bertrand (a.k.a. Clay Shaw). Based on Whalen's description of this man to New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison after the fact it was determined that it was most definitely Clay Shaw.
Whalen remained silent for the most part at this second meeting and let Ferrie do most of the talking. They left after awhile and went to Ferrie's apartment which Whalen again described in great detail to Garrison. Finally, at the apartment Ferrie got to the point and explained why they had contacted him. They wanted him to kill someone.
Garrison explains the details in his book “On The Trail of The Assassins” for us.
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…Shaw was going to advance $10,000 to Whalen before the job. After it was completed, Whalen would receive another $15,000, Shaw would provide him with a phony passport, and Ferrie would fly him to Mexico. Shaw said the intended victim was going to be a witness against him for something that had been done in the past and if this was not stopped, Shaw would end up in the penitentiary for a long time. The victim's name was not mentioned at this time. Whalen was wary of the deal, but he pretended to string along. Before he left, Shaw gave him $300 spending money… (Jim Garrison, On The Trail of The Assassins, p. 123 [hardcover edition])
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Whalen spent that night at a motel on Tulane Avenue under an assumed name. He told Garrison that he couldn't remember what name that he used. Whalen met Ferrie at Moran's restaurant in the morning and after breakfast Ferrie suggested that they take a ride. During the ride Ferrie asked Whalen if he had ever heard of Jim Garrison, and Whalen said that he had not. Ferrie told him that he was the district attorney and he was the person they wanted killed.
Whalen informed Ferrie that he wanted nothing to do with the deal. Ferrie tried it talk him into going through with the deal, but Whalen refused. They agreed to discuss it further the following night at the Absinthe House. Whalen stayed at a motel near the airport under an assumed name. He told Garrison that he couldn't remember the name of the motel or the name that he used.
Whalen met Ferrie at the Absinthe House the next evening and they departed for Shaw's apartment on Dauphine Street. Garrison explains what Whalen told him happened.
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At first only Shaw, Ferrie, and Whalen were in the apartment, and Shaw and Ferrie were trying to persuade Whalen to go through with the plan. After about a half hour, a short fat man wearing dark glasses wandered in. Shaw introduced him as Dean Andrews. Andrews and Shaw conversed for awhile away from Ferrie and Whalen, and shortly thereafter Andrews left the apartment.
Shaw then turned to Whalen and continued to try to persuade him. Shaw said he had done some checking on Whalen and he knew that Whalen's daughter suffered from polio. Shaw said that if Whalen would go through with the plan, he would get Whalen's daughter the finest medical treatment money could buy and also see to it that she was sent to college. However, Whalen insisted that he would not kill a district attorney, and he and Ferrie left. (Ibid., pp. 123-124)
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Upon departing the apartment, Ferrie tried to get Whalen to realize that he was making a mistake by not going through with the deal. He told him that Bertrand could do a lot for him. Whalen recounted to Garrison what Ferrie told him.
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He said that Bertrand had done a lot for Oswald and that it was only because Oswald had fouled up that he was killed. Oswald was an agent of the Central Intelligence Agency, Ferrie claimed, and he had received money from him and Shaw at one time. Ferrie had also said that they had been given “inside" information from Dean Andrews that Jim Garrison was about to start an investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy.
Ferrie had boasted that he had set up the assassination of Kennedy and mentioned the names of other important people he claimed to know. Whalen said he did not believe these statements, which he regarded as name-dropping in an attempt to get him to change his mind. Whalen insisted he wanted nothing to do with the plan, and he left. (Ibid., p. 124)
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Garrison felt that Whalen was accurate and telling the truth. He said the part about Andrews tipping Shaw off proved it as Andrews was the only person outside of his office who knew about his investigation at that point in time.
Whalen's information, if true and there seems to be no reason he would tell Garrison this if it wasn't, shows that Shaw had something very serious to hide as trying to contract a hit is a major thing. Why would Shaw do this if he had nothing to hide as claimed by the Garrison detractors?
Remember that it would be admitted in later years that Shaw was affiliated with the CIA and this was denied vehemently at the time of Garrison's investigation and subsequent trial of Shaw. What about Ferrie's comment about Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) being a CIA agent? This has been suspected for years by researchers since the CIA had a 201 file on LHO. It has been said by insiders that only CIA personnel have 201 files.
I would love to know the names of the important people that Ferrie mentioned to Whalen. I wonder why Garrison didn't tell us, but perhaps Whalen couldn't recall them or Garrison didn't want to be sued for libel or slander. We will never know for sure at this point.
Was Ferrie bragging or was he the man that put the nuts and bolts of the assassination together as he said? That is the million-dollar question.
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Edward Whalen was a career criminal as he spent a large part of his adult life in prison. A friend of his arranged for him to talk with David Ferrie in early 1967 when he was in Columbus, Ohio. Ferrie asked Whalen to come to New Orleans to make some “big money". Whalen learned that the money would be made by hitting the Jung Hotel and a small jewelry store nearby it, but this wasn't the truth.
Since he was free and not in jail, and had recently stolen a new car, he drove down to New Orleans to find out more. He ditched the hot car on a side street and met Ferrie at the Absinthe House on Bourbon Street.
Ferrie was the chatty type and began their discussion with his flying ability, but Whalen cut him off and asked him to get to the point. Whalen said that he needed money since he was on his run from the police. Ferrie assured him that he could earn good money and that Ferrie would fly him out of the country after the job. Ferrie provided no details of the job at this first meeting.
Ferrie provided Whalen with an apartment to stay in and older model Ford to use. They agreed to meet the next evening back at the Absinthe House. The second meeting included a new person who was introduced as Clay Bertrand (a.k.a. Clay Shaw). Based on Whalen's description of this man to New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison after the fact it was determined that it was most definitely Clay Shaw.
Whalen remained silent for the most part at this second meeting and let Ferrie do most of the talking. They left after awhile and went to Ferrie's apartment which Whalen again described in great detail to Garrison. Finally, at the apartment Ferrie got to the point and explained why they had contacted him. They wanted him to kill someone.
Garrison explains the details in his book “On The Trail of The Assassins” for us.
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…Shaw was going to advance $10,000 to Whalen before the job. After it was completed, Whalen would receive another $15,000, Shaw would provide him with a phony passport, and Ferrie would fly him to Mexico. Shaw said the intended victim was going to be a witness against him for something that had been done in the past and if this was not stopped, Shaw would end up in the penitentiary for a long time. The victim's name was not mentioned at this time. Whalen was wary of the deal, but he pretended to string along. Before he left, Shaw gave him $300 spending money… (Jim Garrison, On The Trail of The Assassins, p. 123 [hardcover edition])
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Whalen spent that night at a motel on Tulane Avenue under an assumed name. He told Garrison that he couldn't remember what name that he used. Whalen met Ferrie at Moran's restaurant in the morning and after breakfast Ferrie suggested that they take a ride. During the ride Ferrie asked Whalen if he had ever heard of Jim Garrison, and Whalen said that he had not. Ferrie told him that he was the district attorney and he was the person they wanted killed.
Whalen informed Ferrie that he wanted nothing to do with the deal. Ferrie tried it talk him into going through with the deal, but Whalen refused. They agreed to discuss it further the following night at the Absinthe House. Whalen stayed at a motel near the airport under an assumed name. He told Garrison that he couldn't remember the name of the motel or the name that he used.
Whalen met Ferrie at the Absinthe House the next evening and they departed for Shaw's apartment on Dauphine Street. Garrison explains what Whalen told him happened.
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At first only Shaw, Ferrie, and Whalen were in the apartment, and Shaw and Ferrie were trying to persuade Whalen to go through with the plan. After about a half hour, a short fat man wearing dark glasses wandered in. Shaw introduced him as Dean Andrews. Andrews and Shaw conversed for awhile away from Ferrie and Whalen, and shortly thereafter Andrews left the apartment.
Shaw then turned to Whalen and continued to try to persuade him. Shaw said he had done some checking on Whalen and he knew that Whalen's daughter suffered from polio. Shaw said that if Whalen would go through with the plan, he would get Whalen's daughter the finest medical treatment money could buy and also see to it that she was sent to college. However, Whalen insisted that he would not kill a district attorney, and he and Ferrie left. (Ibid., pp. 123-124)
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Upon departing the apartment, Ferrie tried to get Whalen to realize that he was making a mistake by not going through with the deal. He told him that Bertrand could do a lot for him. Whalen recounted to Garrison what Ferrie told him.
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He said that Bertrand had done a lot for Oswald and that it was only because Oswald had fouled up that he was killed. Oswald was an agent of the Central Intelligence Agency, Ferrie claimed, and he had received money from him and Shaw at one time. Ferrie had also said that they had been given “inside" information from Dean Andrews that Jim Garrison was about to start an investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy.
Ferrie had boasted that he had set up the assassination of Kennedy and mentioned the names of other important people he claimed to know. Whalen said he did not believe these statements, which he regarded as name-dropping in an attempt to get him to change his mind. Whalen insisted he wanted nothing to do with the plan, and he left. (Ibid., p. 124)
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Garrison felt that Whalen was accurate and telling the truth. He said the part about Andrews tipping Shaw off proved it as Andrews was the only person outside of his office who knew about his investigation at that point in time.
Whalen's information, if true and there seems to be no reason he would tell Garrison this if it wasn't, shows that Shaw had something very serious to hide as trying to contract a hit is a major thing. Why would Shaw do this if he had nothing to hide as claimed by the Garrison detractors?
Remember that it would be admitted in later years that Shaw was affiliated with the CIA and this was denied vehemently at the time of Garrison's investigation and subsequent trial of Shaw. What about Ferrie's comment about Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) being a CIA agent? This has been suspected for years by researchers since the CIA had a 201 file on LHO. It has been said by insiders that only CIA personnel have 201 files.
I would love to know the names of the important people that Ferrie mentioned to Whalen. I wonder why Garrison didn't tell us, but perhaps Whalen couldn't recall them or Garrison didn't want to be sued for libel or slander. We will never know for sure at this point.
Was Ferrie bragging or was he the man that put the nuts and bolts of the assassination together as he said? That is the million-dollar question.