Post by Rob Caprio on Mar 28, 2019 9:03:16 GMT -5
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IF Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) fired the shot at General Edwin A. Walker (EAW) with his alleged rifle as claimed, why could the authorities NOT match up the bullet allegedly used with other ballistic evidence in this case?
The right-hand document on page 46 kicks this topic off. It is a report done by the FBI for the Warren Commission (WC) and the Dallas Police Department (DPD) regarding the ballistic qualities of Commission Exhibit (CE) 573.
(I say alleged because EAW himself says CE-573 is NOT the bullet he held and saw on the night of 4/10/63 and the WC never called the officer who found the bullet to verify that CE 573 was the bullet he found at Walker’s residence. Furthermore, the media reports of the time said a .30.06 caliber bullet was used and ALL the DPD reports mention a STEEL-JACKETED bullet whereas CE 573 is COPPER-JACKETED)
CE-573 [designated Q-188 by the FBI] was found to have the same characteristics as the other bullet [CE 399) and the two fragments found in the limousine, but due to the “mutilation of Q-188” it is NOT possible to say it is of Western manufacture to the exclusion of all other sources. It goes on to say on the next page that the “mutilated bullet” showed four lands and grooves with a right twist which is similar to the same pattern the alleged murder weapon produces (CE 139). Shocker! What is NOT stated is how they could get this detail when they just said the bullet was very “mutilated.”
The very next paragraph again states this!
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Because of the ‘extreme mutilation and distortion of Q188 and because the individual microscopic left on bullets by the barrel of K1 rifle [CE 139] could have CHANGED subsequent to the time Q188 was fired, it is NOT possible to determine whether or not Q188 was fired from K1. (CE 2001, p. 2 in original; p. 14) (Emphasis mine)
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Again, IF the bullet had EXTREME MUTILATION how could they tell it had four lands and grooves with a right twist to even slightly suggest it could have come from CE-139? It finally says two paragraphs below the above quote the coup de grace.
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The copper jacket and lead core of the Q188 bullet were determined to be SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT in COMPOSITION from the copper jackets and lead cores of the Q1 and Q2 bullets. (Emphasis mine) (Ibid.)
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This is of course devastating to the claims of the WC, so the FBI did what they and the WC did well—they tap danced all around the issue. In Neutron Activation Analysis (NAA) science ANY DIFFERING means it is NOT a match, but of course the FBI would break their own standards in this case when they wrote this below the above. It has to be an EXACT MATCH or it does NOT help the prosecution at all.
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Although the differences in composition between the Q188 and the Q1 and Q2 bullets were SMALL and do not indicate that these bullets represent two different types of bullets, it was NOT possible to determine if these bullets came from the SAME BOX. [Insert another excuse here] It is to be noted that there is no assurance in the fabrication of ammunition that all the ammunition ending up in one box possesses bullets from the same batch of metal, that is, with the same composition. (Emphasis mine) (Ibid.)
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Isn’t this a bunch of baloney? The very reason NAA was used was because it was supposed to be able to detect the composition of each bullet and see if it MATCHED! This was supposed to be groundbreaking stuff (we have since see it was a bunch of baloney), and yet, when their OWN new science shows the alleged bullet used in the Walker shooting does NOT match the composition of the other two (I don’t even know what Q1 and Q2 were as the report does not say) bullets they have to invent excuses for it! The bottom line is this—the alleged bullet used in the Walker shooting could NOT be traced to LHO at all!
The truth is the two investigators hired by Walker himself set William Duff up as they told him they wanted Walker killed and they had the money to pay him for doing it. They even taped it and gave a copy to DPD. On page 44 of CE-2001 we see the following.
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Killing was set up for the night of June 10, 1963. On this date, June 6, 1963,Bill Duff called FBI Agent Hostie (sic) and told him of the arrangement with the two men to kill Gen. Walker. (CE 2001, p. 44)
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It goes on to state that Duff had NO intention of killing Walker, but that he would have taken any money offered in advance. The key to this quote is that Hosty was made aware of this and yet he never brought it up, from what we can tell, during the interrogation of LHO. Of course it was contrived by the Walker investigators, but how did Hosty know this? This is key to showing they were out to bury LHO no matter what the truth was. What else did Hosty know about and NOT mention to the DPD and WC? IF LHO was so apparently guilty of this crime as the WC would claim, why was he never considered for it?
Mr. LIEBELER. Did the name Lee Harvey Oswald come up in connection with this investigation in any way at that time?
General WALKER. No; it didn't.
In fact, Walker would sound quite angry at the fact the FBI and the WC had named LHO as the guilty person and kept all the evidence away from him and the local police as he wanted to pursue the matter more himself.
Mr. LIEBELER. So aside from Duff and aside from what has been made public as regards Oswald's involvement, you have no other leads or conclusions or ideas as to who might have taken the shot at you on April 10, 1963?
General WALKER. No; I am pretty well blocked by you all and the fact that--not particularly you, as the FBI having taken the information on the case from the city police, and it is difficult to find who is now responsible for an open case, and also the lack of contact with my counsel at any time regarding Oswald's position in this from the time the shot was fired or even after the events of November 22, 1963.
Mr. LIEBELER. I want the record to indicate that the Commission, to my knowledge at least, and I think I would know about it, has never told anybody not to talk to you about the attack on you in any way, shape or form whatsoever, and has no intention of doing so. That is point 1. Point 2 is that the Commission is conducting its own investigation into this matter, and has requested the Federal Bureau of Investigation to conduct an investigation into the matter. which it has done at the request of the Commission, and the report will include a finding one way or the other as to whether Oswald was the man who was involved in this attack on you.
General WALKER. It will have such a finding?
Mr. LIEBELER. It certainly will, and will be a complete disclosure.
General WALKER. Then it must be handling the case, because we have information that the city police turned all the information over to the FBI and there was nothing for us to deal with them about.
My counsel went to the city police on this. Then the FBI definitely said that they had turned it over to the Commission, and then they were under whatever wraps there were, but wraps that kept them from carrying on any development of the cases.
Mr. LIEBELER. No activity of this Commission has ever foreclosed any other law enforcement agency from doing anything that they saw fit to do. The FBI conducts its investigation in any way it sees fit, and the Dallas Police Department does the same thing.
General WALKER. I think we should have a round robin discussion with the city police, FBI, and yourself, if you all have what you have stated, so that we will understand this too, and place this case and the Warren Reynolds case back where they should be. I would think that we should get together to establish who is responsible for the open cases in the city of Dallas.
And then Liebeler said this funny statement.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, the President's Commission on the investigation of the assassination of President Kennedy is certainly not responsible for open cases in the city of Dallas. That your counsel will tell you. That is perfectly obvious.
It is? Then why did they blame LHO for a crime they couldn’t hope to show he was involved in [Walker shooting] then? I love the way Gen. Walker did NOT give up either.
General WALKER. Then I want to go on the record that the city police has misused the Commission and also the FBI.
Mr. LIEBELER. I have no knowledge of that.
General WALKER. I think it is--I can't straighten it out and neither can my counsel. I think it is perfectly obvious that somebody is misusing somebody, the fact that we have no starting point and this is an open case, and this is true with Warren Reynolds as well as myself.
This testimony makes it perfectly clear, they had ALREADY DECIDED LHO WAS GUILTY OF SHOOTING AT WALKER, and thus, they were keeping the evidence from Walker and the local police to make sure they did NOT show he was NOT the one who fired at him. They had their patsy in place and did NOT want anyone ruining it.
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IF Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) fired the shot at General Edwin A. Walker (EAW) with his alleged rifle as claimed, why could the authorities NOT match up the bullet allegedly used with other ballistic evidence in this case?
The right-hand document on page 46 kicks this topic off. It is a report done by the FBI for the Warren Commission (WC) and the Dallas Police Department (DPD) regarding the ballistic qualities of Commission Exhibit (CE) 573.
(I say alleged because EAW himself says CE-573 is NOT the bullet he held and saw on the night of 4/10/63 and the WC never called the officer who found the bullet to verify that CE 573 was the bullet he found at Walker’s residence. Furthermore, the media reports of the time said a .30.06 caliber bullet was used and ALL the DPD reports mention a STEEL-JACKETED bullet whereas CE 573 is COPPER-JACKETED)
CE-573 [designated Q-188 by the FBI] was found to have the same characteristics as the other bullet [CE 399) and the two fragments found in the limousine, but due to the “mutilation of Q-188” it is NOT possible to say it is of Western manufacture to the exclusion of all other sources. It goes on to say on the next page that the “mutilated bullet” showed four lands and grooves with a right twist which is similar to the same pattern the alleged murder weapon produces (CE 139). Shocker! What is NOT stated is how they could get this detail when they just said the bullet was very “mutilated.”
The very next paragraph again states this!
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Because of the ‘extreme mutilation and distortion of Q188 and because the individual microscopic left on bullets by the barrel of K1 rifle [CE 139] could have CHANGED subsequent to the time Q188 was fired, it is NOT possible to determine whether or not Q188 was fired from K1. (CE 2001, p. 2 in original; p. 14) (Emphasis mine)
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Again, IF the bullet had EXTREME MUTILATION how could they tell it had four lands and grooves with a right twist to even slightly suggest it could have come from CE-139? It finally says two paragraphs below the above quote the coup de grace.
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The copper jacket and lead core of the Q188 bullet were determined to be SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT in COMPOSITION from the copper jackets and lead cores of the Q1 and Q2 bullets. (Emphasis mine) (Ibid.)
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This is of course devastating to the claims of the WC, so the FBI did what they and the WC did well—they tap danced all around the issue. In Neutron Activation Analysis (NAA) science ANY DIFFERING means it is NOT a match, but of course the FBI would break their own standards in this case when they wrote this below the above. It has to be an EXACT MATCH or it does NOT help the prosecution at all.
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Although the differences in composition between the Q188 and the Q1 and Q2 bullets were SMALL and do not indicate that these bullets represent two different types of bullets, it was NOT possible to determine if these bullets came from the SAME BOX. [Insert another excuse here] It is to be noted that there is no assurance in the fabrication of ammunition that all the ammunition ending up in one box possesses bullets from the same batch of metal, that is, with the same composition. (Emphasis mine) (Ibid.)
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Isn’t this a bunch of baloney? The very reason NAA was used was because it was supposed to be able to detect the composition of each bullet and see if it MATCHED! This was supposed to be groundbreaking stuff (we have since see it was a bunch of baloney), and yet, when their OWN new science shows the alleged bullet used in the Walker shooting does NOT match the composition of the other two (I don’t even know what Q1 and Q2 were as the report does not say) bullets they have to invent excuses for it! The bottom line is this—the alleged bullet used in the Walker shooting could NOT be traced to LHO at all!
The truth is the two investigators hired by Walker himself set William Duff up as they told him they wanted Walker killed and they had the money to pay him for doing it. They even taped it and gave a copy to DPD. On page 44 of CE-2001 we see the following.
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Killing was set up for the night of June 10, 1963. On this date, June 6, 1963,Bill Duff called FBI Agent Hostie (sic) and told him of the arrangement with the two men to kill Gen. Walker. (CE 2001, p. 44)
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It goes on to state that Duff had NO intention of killing Walker, but that he would have taken any money offered in advance. The key to this quote is that Hosty was made aware of this and yet he never brought it up, from what we can tell, during the interrogation of LHO. Of course it was contrived by the Walker investigators, but how did Hosty know this? This is key to showing they were out to bury LHO no matter what the truth was. What else did Hosty know about and NOT mention to the DPD and WC? IF LHO was so apparently guilty of this crime as the WC would claim, why was he never considered for it?
Mr. LIEBELER. Did the name Lee Harvey Oswald come up in connection with this investigation in any way at that time?
General WALKER. No; it didn't.
In fact, Walker would sound quite angry at the fact the FBI and the WC had named LHO as the guilty person and kept all the evidence away from him and the local police as he wanted to pursue the matter more himself.
Mr. LIEBELER. So aside from Duff and aside from what has been made public as regards Oswald's involvement, you have no other leads or conclusions or ideas as to who might have taken the shot at you on April 10, 1963?
General WALKER. No; I am pretty well blocked by you all and the fact that--not particularly you, as the FBI having taken the information on the case from the city police, and it is difficult to find who is now responsible for an open case, and also the lack of contact with my counsel at any time regarding Oswald's position in this from the time the shot was fired or even after the events of November 22, 1963.
Mr. LIEBELER. I want the record to indicate that the Commission, to my knowledge at least, and I think I would know about it, has never told anybody not to talk to you about the attack on you in any way, shape or form whatsoever, and has no intention of doing so. That is point 1. Point 2 is that the Commission is conducting its own investigation into this matter, and has requested the Federal Bureau of Investigation to conduct an investigation into the matter. which it has done at the request of the Commission, and the report will include a finding one way or the other as to whether Oswald was the man who was involved in this attack on you.
General WALKER. It will have such a finding?
Mr. LIEBELER. It certainly will, and will be a complete disclosure.
General WALKER. Then it must be handling the case, because we have information that the city police turned all the information over to the FBI and there was nothing for us to deal with them about.
My counsel went to the city police on this. Then the FBI definitely said that they had turned it over to the Commission, and then they were under whatever wraps there were, but wraps that kept them from carrying on any development of the cases.
Mr. LIEBELER. No activity of this Commission has ever foreclosed any other law enforcement agency from doing anything that they saw fit to do. The FBI conducts its investigation in any way it sees fit, and the Dallas Police Department does the same thing.
General WALKER. I think we should have a round robin discussion with the city police, FBI, and yourself, if you all have what you have stated, so that we will understand this too, and place this case and the Warren Reynolds case back where they should be. I would think that we should get together to establish who is responsible for the open cases in the city of Dallas.
And then Liebeler said this funny statement.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, the President's Commission on the investigation of the assassination of President Kennedy is certainly not responsible for open cases in the city of Dallas. That your counsel will tell you. That is perfectly obvious.
It is? Then why did they blame LHO for a crime they couldn’t hope to show he was involved in [Walker shooting] then? I love the way Gen. Walker did NOT give up either.
General WALKER. Then I want to go on the record that the city police has misused the Commission and also the FBI.
Mr. LIEBELER. I have no knowledge of that.
General WALKER. I think it is--I can't straighten it out and neither can my counsel. I think it is perfectly obvious that somebody is misusing somebody, the fact that we have no starting point and this is an open case, and this is true with Warren Reynolds as well as myself.
This testimony makes it perfectly clear, they had ALREADY DECIDED LHO WAS GUILTY OF SHOOTING AT WALKER, and thus, they were keeping the evidence from Walker and the local police to make sure they did NOT show he was NOT the one who fired at him. They had their patsy in place and did NOT want anyone ruining it.