Post by John Duncan on Apr 23, 2019 13:48:09 GMT -5
Bowers' Unsigned WC Testimony:
Mr. BOWERS. The first car was a 1959 Oldsmobile, blue and white station wagon with out-of-State license.had a bumper sticker, one of which was a Goldwater sticker, and the other of which had some scenic location, I think.
[Chauncey Holt's station wagon?]
Mr. BALL. And did you see another car?
Mr. BOWERS. Yes some 15 minutes or so after this, at approximately 12 o'clock, 20 to 12---I guess 12:20 would be closer to it, little time differential there---but there was another car which was a 1957 black Ford,
[about 15 minutes later Jack Ruby used a dark colored car to cleanse the north knoll sniper's rifle from Dealey Plaza]
With one male in it that seemed to have a mike or something that gave the appearance of that at least.
Mr. BALL. How could you tell that?
Mr. BOWERS. He was holding something up to his mouth with on hand and he was driving with the other, and gave that appearance. He was very close to the tower. I could see him as he proceeded around the area.
[In Hoods, Spooks And The Power Elite Chauncey Hold identifies a man taling on a microphone as Aldovera Serafin]:
"About 11 o'clock a person I'd never met.
Now while I was there there were several other cars that were in the in and the out of the parking lot that people in them that I knew very well.
Uh, one of the persons who drove in sat at the entrance for a long time and then left was an individual by the name of uh uh uh Aldovera Serafin who was one of the foremost assassins uh in the world (unintelligible) he looked like he was clicking the mike and so forth and talking on it and so forth and after a while he left drove out of the parking area."]
Mr. BALL. What kind of license did that have?
Mr. BOWERS. Had a Texas License.
Mr. BOWERS. Third car, which entered the area, which was some seven or nine minutes before the shooting, I believe was a 1961 or 1962 Chevrolet, four door Impala, white, showed signs of being on the road.
[The 4-door Chevy on the Holland DIagram?]
Mr. BALL. Did he leave?
Mr. BOWERS. The last I saw of him he was pausing just about in---just above the assassination site.
Mr. BALL. Did the car park, or continue on or did you notice?
Mr. BOWERS. Whether it continued on at that very moment or whatever it pulled up only a short distance, I couldn't tell. I was busy.
Mr. BALL. How long was this before the President's car passed?
Mr. BOWERS. This last car? About 8 minutes.
Mr. BALL. Now, were there any people standing on the high side---high ground between your tower and where Elm Street goes down under the underpass toward the mouth of the underpass?
Mr. BOWERS. Directly in line, towards the mouth of the underpass, there were two men. One man, middle aged or slightly older, fairly heavy-set, in a white shirt, fairly dark trousers. Holt mentioned "I thought I saw Orlando Bosch...the FBI said it wasn't Bosch...but I wouldn't believe them...so he was there." [paraphrasing]. That's who I see as the guy next to umbrella man, Orlando Bosch, and I don't see any walkie-talkie or radio device in his back pocket. Why have a walkie-talkie in plain view during the assassination? [Chauncey Holt?]
Another younger man, about midtwenties, in either a plaid shirt or plaid coat or jacket.
[Charles Harrelson in a Raliroad Shirt?]
Mr. BALL. Were they standing together or standing separately?
Mr. BOWERS. They were standing within 10 or 15 feet of each other, and gave no appearance of being together, as far as I knew.
Mr. BALL. In what direction were they facing?
Mr. BOWERS. They were facing and looking up towards Main and Houston, and following the caravan as it came down.
Holt mentioned "I thought I saw Orlando Bosch...the FBI said it wasn't Bosch...but I wouldn't believe them...so he was there." [paraphrasing]. That's who I see as the guy next to umbrella man, Orlando Bosch, and I don't see any walkie-talkie or radio device in his back pocket. Why have a walkie-talkie in plain view during the assassination?
Mr. BOWERS. The first car was a 1959 Oldsmobile, blue and white station wagon with out-of-State license.had a bumper sticker, one of which was a Goldwater sticker, and the other of which had some scenic location, I think.
[Chauncey Holt's station wagon?]
Mr. BALL. And did you see another car?
Mr. BOWERS. Yes some 15 minutes or so after this, at approximately 12 o'clock, 20 to 12---I guess 12:20 would be closer to it, little time differential there---but there was another car which was a 1957 black Ford,
[about 15 minutes later Jack Ruby used a dark colored car to cleanse the north knoll sniper's rifle from Dealey Plaza]
With one male in it that seemed to have a mike or something that gave the appearance of that at least.
Mr. BALL. How could you tell that?
Mr. BOWERS. He was holding something up to his mouth with on hand and he was driving with the other, and gave that appearance. He was very close to the tower. I could see him as he proceeded around the area.
[In Hoods, Spooks And The Power Elite Chauncey Hold identifies a man taling on a microphone as Aldovera Serafin]:
"About 11 o'clock a person I'd never met.
Now while I was there there were several other cars that were in the in and the out of the parking lot that people in them that I knew very well.
Uh, one of the persons who drove in sat at the entrance for a long time and then left was an individual by the name of uh uh uh Aldovera Serafin who was one of the foremost assassins uh in the world (unintelligible) he looked like he was clicking the mike and so forth and talking on it and so forth and after a while he left drove out of the parking area."]
Mr. BALL. What kind of license did that have?
Mr. BOWERS. Had a Texas License.
Mr. BOWERS. Third car, which entered the area, which was some seven or nine minutes before the shooting, I believe was a 1961 or 1962 Chevrolet, four door Impala, white, showed signs of being on the road.
[The 4-door Chevy on the Holland DIagram?]
Mr. BALL. Did he leave?
Mr. BOWERS. The last I saw of him he was pausing just about in---just above the assassination site.
Mr. BALL. Did the car park, or continue on or did you notice?
Mr. BOWERS. Whether it continued on at that very moment or whatever it pulled up only a short distance, I couldn't tell. I was busy.
Mr. BALL. How long was this before the President's car passed?
Mr. BOWERS. This last car? About 8 minutes.
Mr. BALL. Now, were there any people standing on the high side---high ground between your tower and where Elm Street goes down under the underpass toward the mouth of the underpass?
Mr. BOWERS. Directly in line, towards the mouth of the underpass, there were two men. One man, middle aged or slightly older, fairly heavy-set, in a white shirt, fairly dark trousers. Holt mentioned "I thought I saw Orlando Bosch...the FBI said it wasn't Bosch...but I wouldn't believe them...so he was there." [paraphrasing]. That's who I see as the guy next to umbrella man, Orlando Bosch, and I don't see any walkie-talkie or radio device in his back pocket. Why have a walkie-talkie in plain view during the assassination? [Chauncey Holt?]
Another younger man, about midtwenties, in either a plaid shirt or plaid coat or jacket.
[Charles Harrelson in a Raliroad Shirt?]
Mr. BALL. Were they standing together or standing separately?
Mr. BOWERS. They were standing within 10 or 15 feet of each other, and gave no appearance of being together, as far as I knew.
Mr. BALL. In what direction were they facing?
Mr. BOWERS. They were facing and looking up towards Main and Houston, and following the caravan as it came down.
Holt mentioned "I thought I saw Orlando Bosch...the FBI said it wasn't Bosch...but I wouldn't believe them...so he was there." [paraphrasing]. That's who I see as the guy next to umbrella man, Orlando Bosch, and I don't see any walkie-talkie or radio device in his back pocket. Why have a walkie-talkie in plain view during the assassination?