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The Warren Commission (WC) said Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) shot at General Edwin A. Walker (EAW) on the night of April 10, 1963 with the 40” Mannlicher-Carcano (M-C) that he allegedly ordered from Klein’s Sporting Goods (KSG) in Chicago, Illinois in March 1963.
As we have seen in this series there is NO evidence supporting this claim and this is reflected in the fact that the Dallas Police Department (DPD) never once considered LHO to be a suspect in the shooting PRIOR to November 22, 1963. In fact, ONLY two people ever claimed to see LHO with his alleged rifle and we will look at their claims in this post.
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The Warren Commission wrote the following about this event in their Report (WCR).
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On April 6, 1963, Oswald lost his job with photography firm. A few days later, on April 10, he attempted to kill Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker (Resigned, U.S. Army), using a rifle which he had ordered by mail 1 month previously under an assumed name. (WCR, pp. 13-14)
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We know Marina Oswald claimed to see the rifle on Neeley Street as she said this before the WC.
Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall the first time that you observed the rifle?
Mrs. OSWALD. That was on Neely Street. I think that was in February.
Mr. RANKIN. How did you learn about it? Did you see it some place in the apartment?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, Lee had a small room where he spent a great deal of time, where he read---where he kept his things, and that is where the rifle was.
The only other person to ever claim to see a rifle that supposedly belonged to LHO was Jeanne DeMohrenschildt. She said they visited the Oswalds on the Saturday night before Easter around 10:00 p.m. to deliver a stuffed rabbit for June Oswald as an Easter present.
Mr. JENNER. Now, something occurred in Easter, 1963 when you went to visit them?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Was this Easter Sunday or the day after?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No, to my best recollection it was Saturday before Easter…
Mr. JENNER. Did you arrive there during the day?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No; it was in the evening. I think we were playing tennis, and then we were somewhere, and then I decided we will be busy tomorrow, and I wanted to take the rabbit to the baby. And we came over late at night. It was 10 o'clock, or maybe later. And I remember they gave us something to drink.
She would say after being let in and offered a drink her husband, George DeMohrenschildt, would take a seat on the sofa and talk with LHO while Marina showed her around the house.
Mr. JENNER. …You came to the door and either Marina or Oswald came to the door, and you and your husband went in the home?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. And I believe from what I remember George sat down on the sofa and started talking to Lee, and Marina was showing me the house that is why I said it looks like it was the first time, because why would she show me the house if I had been there before? Then we went to another room, and she opens the closet, and I see the gun standing there. I said, what is the gun doing over there?… A rifle.
Mr. JENNER. A rifle, in the closet?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. In the closet, right in the beginning. It wasn't hidden or anything.
Mr. JENNER. Standing up on its butt?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
She would be then shown Commission Exhibit (CE) 139 and asked if that was the rifle she saw in the closet.
Mr. JENNER. I show you Commission Exhibit 139. Is that the rifle that you saw?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. It looks very much like it.
But when pressed she had to admit she was NOT sure if it was the same rifle or not that she saw.
Mr. JENNER. It was this rifle?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't know. It looks very much like it, because something was dangling over it, and I didn't know what it was. This telescopic sight. Like we had a rifle with us on the road, we just had a smooth thing, nothing attached to it. And I saw something here.
Mr. JENNER. I say your attention was arrested, not only, because when the closet door was opened by Marina you saw the rifle in the closet--you saw a rifle?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
All of this in direct opposition to the other person who said they saw LHO with a rifle, his wife Marina, as she said this about the supposed closet incident.
Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever show that rifle to the De Mohrenschildts?
Mrs. OSWALD. I know that De Mohrenschildts had said that the rifle had been shown to him, but I don't remember that.
She would also deny that the rifle was ever kept in a closet while they lived on Neeley Street.
Mr. RANKIN. Was it out in the room at that time, as distinguished from in a closet in the room?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, it was open, out in the open. At first I think---I saw some package up on the top shelf, and I think that that was the rifle. But I didn't know. And apparently later he assembled it and had it in the room.
Mr. RANKIN. Was the rifle later placed in a closet in the apartment at Neely Street?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, it was always either in a corner, standing up in a corner or on a shelf.
Jeanne DeMohrenschildt said she saw something “dangling over” and this was linked to a telescopic sight, but Marina Oswald said the rifle LHO owned had NO scope on it. [Note: It should be remembered that the scope did need shims to be fixed into place in order to be sighted. Was this a slip up by Jeanne DeMohrenschildt?]
Mr. RANKIN. When you saw the rifle assembled in the room, did it have the scope on it?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, it did not have a scope on it.
Also, why did Jeanne DeMohrenschildt not say the rifle she saw was dirty as Marina Oswald said LHO did this with the rifle after he told her that he shot at EAW.
Mr. RANKIN. Did he say any more than that about the shooting?
Mrs. OSWALD. Of course in the morning I told him that I was worried, and that we can have a lot of trouble, and I asked him, "Where is the rifle? What did you do with it?"
He said, that he had left it somewhere, that he had buried it, it seems to me, somewhere far from that place, because he said dogs could find it by smell. I don't know---I am not a criminologist.
Marina Oswald claimed LHO told her that he had “buried the rifle” in the ground, but it was never explained to us how and when he retrieved it. As I showed earlier in this series Marina Oswald said LHO “…buried the rifle far from the actual spot of the shooting” so how did he get it there to bury it and then get there to retrieve it all with NO one noticing? Furthermore, the day of the shooting, April 10, was a Wednesday and the DeMohrenschildts visited on Saturday evening so he had to retrieve it in those few days. Marina Oswald would claim to see LHO cleaning his rifle on Neeley Street, but NO cleaning supplies were ever found among his possessions after the assassination. She kept changing the amount of times she saw him cleaning the rifle too.
Marina Oswald would also tell the FBI that Mrs. DeMohrenschildt may have visited their house on Neeley Street two times instead of the one that Jeanne DeMohrenschildt said. Keep in mind Jeanne DeMohrenschildt said she saw the rifle on SATURDAY evening, April 13, but Marina Oswald told the FBI that LHO did NOT bring it home until Easter Sunday which was the NEXT day.
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She recalls Oswald returned to the Neeley Street home with the rifle wrapped in a raincoat on the SUNDAY following the night of the assassination attempt. (CE 1403, p. 777) (Emphasis added)
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This explanation means one of two things. First, either Jeanne DeMohrenschildt was incorrect when she said she saw the rifle on Saturday, April 13, 1963, or she made two visits or more to the Neeley Street which is possible based on what she testified to.
Mr. JENNER. That is the first time you had ever been there?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't remember. Maybe I was. I don't think so.
Still, how did she get the day wrong for seeing the rifle? Easter Sunday should stand out for her. Her husband, George, did NOT see the rifle, but he attributed her comments to Easter Sunday.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. And Jeanne told me that day, "Let's go and take a rabbit for Oswald's baby."
Mr. JENNER. This was on Easter Sunday?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Easter day. I don't remember it was Easter Sunday.
Mr. JENNER. Easter is always on Sunday.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; maybe it was the day before, the day after, but I think it was on the holiday. Maybe my wife will remember the date exactly. And so we drove over quite late in the evening and walked up--I think they were asleep. They were asleep and we knocked at the door and shouted, and Lee Oswald came down undressed, half undressed you see, maybe in shorts, and opened the door and we told him that we have the rabbit for the child. And it was a very short visit, you know. We just gave the rabbit to the baby and I was talking to Lee while Jeanne was talking to Marina about something which is immaterial which I do not recall right now, and all of a sudden----And I think Oswald and I were standing near the window looking outside and I was asking him "How is your job" or "Are you making any money? Are you happy," some question of that type. All of a sudden Jeanne who was with Marina in the other room told me "Look, George, they have a gun here." And Marina opened the closet and showed it to Jeanne, a gun that belonged obviously to Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. This was a weapon? Did you go in and look?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I didn't look at the gun. I was still standing. The closet was open. Jeanne was looking at it, at the gun, and I think she asked Marina "what is that" you see. That was the sight on the gun. "What is that? That looks like a telescopic sight." And Marina said "That crazy :cop: is target shooting all the time." So frankly I thought it was ridiculous to shoot target shooting in Dallas, you see, right in town. I asked him "Why do you do that?"
So we see he thought the visit was on Easter Sunday and not the previous night. He also thought the gun that his wife saw was in a closet and had a telescopic sight on it. As I have said before, why would Marina show Jeanne DeMohrenschildt a closet anyway? How many people showing their home off open closets for people? Now maybe if you are putting a person’s coat in it they could see in that way, but I don’t know many people who just up and open a closet to show it off.
Also, how do we explain the fact the rifle was NOT dirty when it had been in the ground until that day according to Marina? How do we explain the fact there was supposedly a scope on it when Marina Oswald said she never saw a scope on the rifle she saw at the Neeley Street home?
The WCR said they saw the rifle on Saturday, April 13, 1963, and NOT Easter Sunday.
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The De Mohrenschildts came to the Oswald’s apartment on Neeley Street for the first time on the evening of April 13, 1963, apparently to bring an Easter gift for the Oswald child. Mrs. De Mohrenschildt testified that while Marina Oswald was showing her the apartment, she saw a rifle with a scope in a closet. (WCR, p. 282)
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It goes on to repeat the comment George De Mohrenschildt supposedly made regarding LHO “taking a pot shot at Walker” and ignores the fact that he thought all of this happened on Easter Sunday and NOT the previous night. This is no small point as based on Marina Oswald’s statement to the FBI the rifle was STILL BURIED on the night of April 13, 1963, so how could Jeanne DeMohrenschildt see it? This was a real problem for the WC, but one that Marina Oswald would help to rectify during her later testimony.
Mr. LIEBELER. When did he first show it to you?
Mrs. OSWALD. Three days after the attempt--3 days after this attempt, he took the rifle from the house, took it somewhere and buried it.
Mr. LIEBELER. Three days after the attempt? So that he actually took the rifle out of the house and took it away and hid it somewhere?
Mrs. OSWALD. No; the day Lee shot at Walker, he buried the rifle because when he came home and told me that he shot at General Walker and I asked him where the rifle was and he said he buried it.
Mr. LIEBELER. He shot at General Walker on April 10, which was on Wednesday.
Mrs. OSWALD. As I remember, it was the weekend--Saturday or Sunday when Lee brought the rifle back home.
Mr. LIEBELER. What weekend following the time he shot at General Walker?
Mrs. OSWALD. The same weekend of the same week.
So once again Marina Oswald rectified a problem for the WC. Why would she tell the FBI on December 11, 1963, that he brought it home on Easter Sunday, but in July of 1964 say it was Saturday or Sunday? How does one’s memory get better with time? Or was this a simple way to help the WC out of their predicament?
Given what LHO supposedly used the rifle for just days earlier, why would Marina Oswald draw any attention to it by showing it off? Again, it was supposedly in a closet and who opens closets for guests outside of putting their coats or belongings in them? Furthermore, as we have seen Marina Oswald herself said the rifle was NOT kept in a closet, but rather a room that LHO did NOT want her to go into.
Representative FORD. Was the rifle in that room, too?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.
Mr. RANKIN. Where was the rifle in the room?
Mrs. OSWALD. Sometimes it was in the corner, sometimes it was up on a shelf. Lee didn’t like me to go into this room. That is why he kept it closed all the time and told ME NOT TO GO INTO it. Sometimes he went in there and sat by himself for long periods of time.
Mr. DULLES. By closed, do you mean locked?
Mrs. OSWALD. He used to lock it from the inside. I don’t remember what kind of lock it was. Possibly it was just a--some kind of a tongue—
Mr. MCKENZIE. Latch.
Mrs. OSWALD. Latch or something like that.
This testimony shows the rifle was NOT kept in a closet, but rather a room he did NOT want her to go into so what are the odds she would go into it to it and show Jeanne DeMohrenschildt around? I would think slim to none myself. She would also claim George DeMohrenschildt said something to LHO as soon as they opened the door.
Mrs. OSWALD. …By the way, several days after that, the De Mohrenschildts came to us, and as soon as he opened the door he said, "Lee, how is it possible that you missed?"
I looked at Lee. I thought that he had told De Mohrenschildt about it. And Lee looked at me, and he apparently thought that I had told De Mohrenschildt about it. It was kind of dark. But I noticed---it was in the evening, but I noticed that his face changed, that he almost became speechless.
You see, other people knew my husband better than I did. Not always--but in this case.
But when George DeMohrenschildt was asked about his he had NO memory of it.
Mr. JENNER. Was there ever an occasion after this time, when you and Mrs. De Mohrenschildt came to see the Oswalds, that as soon as you opened the door, you said, "Lee, how is it possible that you missed?"
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Never. I don't recall that incident.
It is obvious the attempts of the WC have failed to show LHO had a rifle and that it was actually seen by Marina Oswald and Jeanne DeMohrenschildt as claimed. Their stories are at ODDS with each other and there are too many inconsistencies between the stories for any of this to be true. Furthermore, given the fear she displayed in CE 1403 to the FBI about someone “finding the rifle” how can we believe just hours later she would show it to anyone after she supposedly took the time to put it in a closet when it was NOT normally kept there? Or that she disobeyed LHO by taking Jeanne DeMohrenschildt into his private room so she could see the rifle in a closet there?
It is quite clear from this testimony that this story is like the rest of the so-called evidence against LHO in the EAW shooting---unbelievable and not supportive of the claim being made.
Thus, the WC’s conclusion is again sunk.
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The Warren Commission (WC) said Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) shot at General Edwin A. Walker (EAW) on the night of April 10, 1963 with the 40” Mannlicher-Carcano (M-C) that he allegedly ordered from Klein’s Sporting Goods (KSG) in Chicago, Illinois in March 1963.
As we have seen in this series there is NO evidence supporting this claim and this is reflected in the fact that the Dallas Police Department (DPD) never once considered LHO to be a suspect in the shooting PRIOR to November 22, 1963. In fact, ONLY two people ever claimed to see LHO with his alleged rifle and we will look at their claims in this post.
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The Warren Commission wrote the following about this event in their Report (WCR).
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On April 6, 1963, Oswald lost his job with photography firm. A few days later, on April 10, he attempted to kill Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker (Resigned, U.S. Army), using a rifle which he had ordered by mail 1 month previously under an assumed name. (WCR, pp. 13-14)
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We know Marina Oswald claimed to see the rifle on Neeley Street as she said this before the WC.
Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall the first time that you observed the rifle?
Mrs. OSWALD. That was on Neely Street. I think that was in February.
Mr. RANKIN. How did you learn about it? Did you see it some place in the apartment?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, Lee had a small room where he spent a great deal of time, where he read---where he kept his things, and that is where the rifle was.
The only other person to ever claim to see a rifle that supposedly belonged to LHO was Jeanne DeMohrenschildt. She said they visited the Oswalds on the Saturday night before Easter around 10:00 p.m. to deliver a stuffed rabbit for June Oswald as an Easter present.
Mr. JENNER. Now, something occurred in Easter, 1963 when you went to visit them?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Was this Easter Sunday or the day after?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No, to my best recollection it was Saturday before Easter…
Mr. JENNER. Did you arrive there during the day?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No; it was in the evening. I think we were playing tennis, and then we were somewhere, and then I decided we will be busy tomorrow, and I wanted to take the rabbit to the baby. And we came over late at night. It was 10 o'clock, or maybe later. And I remember they gave us something to drink.
She would say after being let in and offered a drink her husband, George DeMohrenschildt, would take a seat on the sofa and talk with LHO while Marina showed her around the house.
Mr. JENNER. …You came to the door and either Marina or Oswald came to the door, and you and your husband went in the home?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. And I believe from what I remember George sat down on the sofa and started talking to Lee, and Marina was showing me the house that is why I said it looks like it was the first time, because why would she show me the house if I had been there before? Then we went to another room, and she opens the closet, and I see the gun standing there. I said, what is the gun doing over there?… A rifle.
Mr. JENNER. A rifle, in the closet?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. In the closet, right in the beginning. It wasn't hidden or anything.
Mr. JENNER. Standing up on its butt?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
She would be then shown Commission Exhibit (CE) 139 and asked if that was the rifle she saw in the closet.
Mr. JENNER. I show you Commission Exhibit 139. Is that the rifle that you saw?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. It looks very much like it.
But when pressed she had to admit she was NOT sure if it was the same rifle or not that she saw.
Mr. JENNER. It was this rifle?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't know. It looks very much like it, because something was dangling over it, and I didn't know what it was. This telescopic sight. Like we had a rifle with us on the road, we just had a smooth thing, nothing attached to it. And I saw something here.
Mr. JENNER. I say your attention was arrested, not only, because when the closet door was opened by Marina you saw the rifle in the closet--you saw a rifle?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
All of this in direct opposition to the other person who said they saw LHO with a rifle, his wife Marina, as she said this about the supposed closet incident.
Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever show that rifle to the De Mohrenschildts?
Mrs. OSWALD. I know that De Mohrenschildts had said that the rifle had been shown to him, but I don't remember that.
She would also deny that the rifle was ever kept in a closet while they lived on Neeley Street.
Mr. RANKIN. Was it out in the room at that time, as distinguished from in a closet in the room?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, it was open, out in the open. At first I think---I saw some package up on the top shelf, and I think that that was the rifle. But I didn't know. And apparently later he assembled it and had it in the room.
Mr. RANKIN. Was the rifle later placed in a closet in the apartment at Neely Street?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, it was always either in a corner, standing up in a corner or on a shelf.
Jeanne DeMohrenschildt said she saw something “dangling over” and this was linked to a telescopic sight, but Marina Oswald said the rifle LHO owned had NO scope on it. [Note: It should be remembered that the scope did need shims to be fixed into place in order to be sighted. Was this a slip up by Jeanne DeMohrenschildt?]
Mr. RANKIN. When you saw the rifle assembled in the room, did it have the scope on it?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, it did not have a scope on it.
Also, why did Jeanne DeMohrenschildt not say the rifle she saw was dirty as Marina Oswald said LHO did this with the rifle after he told her that he shot at EAW.
Mr. RANKIN. Did he say any more than that about the shooting?
Mrs. OSWALD. Of course in the morning I told him that I was worried, and that we can have a lot of trouble, and I asked him, "Where is the rifle? What did you do with it?"
He said, that he had left it somewhere, that he had buried it, it seems to me, somewhere far from that place, because he said dogs could find it by smell. I don't know---I am not a criminologist.
Marina Oswald claimed LHO told her that he had “buried the rifle” in the ground, but it was never explained to us how and when he retrieved it. As I showed earlier in this series Marina Oswald said LHO “…buried the rifle far from the actual spot of the shooting” so how did he get it there to bury it and then get there to retrieve it all with NO one noticing? Furthermore, the day of the shooting, April 10, was a Wednesday and the DeMohrenschildts visited on Saturday evening so he had to retrieve it in those few days. Marina Oswald would claim to see LHO cleaning his rifle on Neeley Street, but NO cleaning supplies were ever found among his possessions after the assassination. She kept changing the amount of times she saw him cleaning the rifle too.
Marina Oswald would also tell the FBI that Mrs. DeMohrenschildt may have visited their house on Neeley Street two times instead of the one that Jeanne DeMohrenschildt said. Keep in mind Jeanne DeMohrenschildt said she saw the rifle on SATURDAY evening, April 13, but Marina Oswald told the FBI that LHO did NOT bring it home until Easter Sunday which was the NEXT day.
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She recalls Oswald returned to the Neeley Street home with the rifle wrapped in a raincoat on the SUNDAY following the night of the assassination attempt. (CE 1403, p. 777) (Emphasis added)
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This explanation means one of two things. First, either Jeanne DeMohrenschildt was incorrect when she said she saw the rifle on Saturday, April 13, 1963, or she made two visits or more to the Neeley Street which is possible based on what she testified to.
Mr. JENNER. That is the first time you had ever been there?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't remember. Maybe I was. I don't think so.
Still, how did she get the day wrong for seeing the rifle? Easter Sunday should stand out for her. Her husband, George, did NOT see the rifle, but he attributed her comments to Easter Sunday.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. And Jeanne told me that day, "Let's go and take a rabbit for Oswald's baby."
Mr. JENNER. This was on Easter Sunday?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Easter day. I don't remember it was Easter Sunday.
Mr. JENNER. Easter is always on Sunday.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; maybe it was the day before, the day after, but I think it was on the holiday. Maybe my wife will remember the date exactly. And so we drove over quite late in the evening and walked up--I think they were asleep. They were asleep and we knocked at the door and shouted, and Lee Oswald came down undressed, half undressed you see, maybe in shorts, and opened the door and we told him that we have the rabbit for the child. And it was a very short visit, you know. We just gave the rabbit to the baby and I was talking to Lee while Jeanne was talking to Marina about something which is immaterial which I do not recall right now, and all of a sudden----And I think Oswald and I were standing near the window looking outside and I was asking him "How is your job" or "Are you making any money? Are you happy," some question of that type. All of a sudden Jeanne who was with Marina in the other room told me "Look, George, they have a gun here." And Marina opened the closet and showed it to Jeanne, a gun that belonged obviously to Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. This was a weapon? Did you go in and look?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I didn't look at the gun. I was still standing. The closet was open. Jeanne was looking at it, at the gun, and I think she asked Marina "what is that" you see. That was the sight on the gun. "What is that? That looks like a telescopic sight." And Marina said "That crazy :cop: is target shooting all the time." So frankly I thought it was ridiculous to shoot target shooting in Dallas, you see, right in town. I asked him "Why do you do that?"
So we see he thought the visit was on Easter Sunday and not the previous night. He also thought the gun that his wife saw was in a closet and had a telescopic sight on it. As I have said before, why would Marina show Jeanne DeMohrenschildt a closet anyway? How many people showing their home off open closets for people? Now maybe if you are putting a person’s coat in it they could see in that way, but I don’t know many people who just up and open a closet to show it off.
Also, how do we explain the fact the rifle was NOT dirty when it had been in the ground until that day according to Marina? How do we explain the fact there was supposedly a scope on it when Marina Oswald said she never saw a scope on the rifle she saw at the Neeley Street home?
The WCR said they saw the rifle on Saturday, April 13, 1963, and NOT Easter Sunday.
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The De Mohrenschildts came to the Oswald’s apartment on Neeley Street for the first time on the evening of April 13, 1963, apparently to bring an Easter gift for the Oswald child. Mrs. De Mohrenschildt testified that while Marina Oswald was showing her the apartment, she saw a rifle with a scope in a closet. (WCR, p. 282)
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It goes on to repeat the comment George De Mohrenschildt supposedly made regarding LHO “taking a pot shot at Walker” and ignores the fact that he thought all of this happened on Easter Sunday and NOT the previous night. This is no small point as based on Marina Oswald’s statement to the FBI the rifle was STILL BURIED on the night of April 13, 1963, so how could Jeanne DeMohrenschildt see it? This was a real problem for the WC, but one that Marina Oswald would help to rectify during her later testimony.
Mr. LIEBELER. When did he first show it to you?
Mrs. OSWALD. Three days after the attempt--3 days after this attempt, he took the rifle from the house, took it somewhere and buried it.
Mr. LIEBELER. Three days after the attempt? So that he actually took the rifle out of the house and took it away and hid it somewhere?
Mrs. OSWALD. No; the day Lee shot at Walker, he buried the rifle because when he came home and told me that he shot at General Walker and I asked him where the rifle was and he said he buried it.
Mr. LIEBELER. He shot at General Walker on April 10, which was on Wednesday.
Mrs. OSWALD. As I remember, it was the weekend--Saturday or Sunday when Lee brought the rifle back home.
Mr. LIEBELER. What weekend following the time he shot at General Walker?
Mrs. OSWALD. The same weekend of the same week.
So once again Marina Oswald rectified a problem for the WC. Why would she tell the FBI on December 11, 1963, that he brought it home on Easter Sunday, but in July of 1964 say it was Saturday or Sunday? How does one’s memory get better with time? Or was this a simple way to help the WC out of their predicament?
Given what LHO supposedly used the rifle for just days earlier, why would Marina Oswald draw any attention to it by showing it off? Again, it was supposedly in a closet and who opens closets for guests outside of putting their coats or belongings in them? Furthermore, as we have seen Marina Oswald herself said the rifle was NOT kept in a closet, but rather a room that LHO did NOT want her to go into.
Representative FORD. Was the rifle in that room, too?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.
Mr. RANKIN. Where was the rifle in the room?
Mrs. OSWALD. Sometimes it was in the corner, sometimes it was up on a shelf. Lee didn’t like me to go into this room. That is why he kept it closed all the time and told ME NOT TO GO INTO it. Sometimes he went in there and sat by himself for long periods of time.
Mr. DULLES. By closed, do you mean locked?
Mrs. OSWALD. He used to lock it from the inside. I don’t remember what kind of lock it was. Possibly it was just a--some kind of a tongue—
Mr. MCKENZIE. Latch.
Mrs. OSWALD. Latch or something like that.
This testimony shows the rifle was NOT kept in a closet, but rather a room he did NOT want her to go into so what are the odds she would go into it to it and show Jeanne DeMohrenschildt around? I would think slim to none myself. She would also claim George DeMohrenschildt said something to LHO as soon as they opened the door.
Mrs. OSWALD. …By the way, several days after that, the De Mohrenschildts came to us, and as soon as he opened the door he said, "Lee, how is it possible that you missed?"
I looked at Lee. I thought that he had told De Mohrenschildt about it. And Lee looked at me, and he apparently thought that I had told De Mohrenschildt about it. It was kind of dark. But I noticed---it was in the evening, but I noticed that his face changed, that he almost became speechless.
You see, other people knew my husband better than I did. Not always--but in this case.
But when George DeMohrenschildt was asked about his he had NO memory of it.
Mr. JENNER. Was there ever an occasion after this time, when you and Mrs. De Mohrenschildt came to see the Oswalds, that as soon as you opened the door, you said, "Lee, how is it possible that you missed?"
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Never. I don't recall that incident.
It is obvious the attempts of the WC have failed to show LHO had a rifle and that it was actually seen by Marina Oswald and Jeanne DeMohrenschildt as claimed. Their stories are at ODDS with each other and there are too many inconsistencies between the stories for any of this to be true. Furthermore, given the fear she displayed in CE 1403 to the FBI about someone “finding the rifle” how can we believe just hours later she would show it to anyone after she supposedly took the time to put it in a closet when it was NOT normally kept there? Or that she disobeyed LHO by taking Jeanne DeMohrenschildt into his private room so she could see the rifle in a closet there?
It is quite clear from this testimony that this story is like the rest of the so-called evidence against LHO in the EAW shooting---unbelievable and not supportive of the claim being made.
Thus, the WC’s conclusion is again sunk.