Post by Rob Caprio on Aug 10, 2020 21:43:45 GMT -5
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Jim Murray took a photograph of Sergeant Gerald Hill leaning out an arched sixth floor window of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) building, and he was pointing towards the corner window where the shell casings had just been found. Richard Trask reported this in his book years ago ("Pictures Of The Pain", p. 502). Trask said Hill responded to Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney who had just yelled his discovery of the spent shell casings "...and two frames showing Sergeant Gerald Hill yelling out of a sixth floor window at around 1:00 just after spent shells had been located under the corner window to which he is pointing." (Ibid., p. 523)
Mr. MOONEY - …So, at that time, I didn't lay my hands on anything, because I wanted to save every evidence we could for fingerprints. So I leaned out the window, the same window from which the shots were fired, looked down, and I saw Sheriff Bill Decker and Captain Will Fritz standing right on the ground.
Well, so I hollered, or signaled I hollered, I more or less hollered. I whistled a time or two before I got anybody to see me. And yet they was all looking that way, too except the sheriff, they wasn't looking up.
And I told him to get the crime lab officers en route, that I had the location spotted…
This caused Hill to open the window and scream down to Sheriff Bill Decker (who seemed vaguely non-interested in everything in my opinion - he couldn't seem to keep far enough away) to send up the crime scene folks.
Mr. HILL - …Then, on the floor near the baseboard or against the baseboard of the south wall of the building, in front of the second window, in front of the, well, we would have to say second window from the east corner, were three spent shells.
This is actually the jacket that holds the powder and not the slug. At this point, I asked the deputy sheriff to guard the scene, not to let anybody touch anything, and I went over still further west to another window about the middle of the building on the south side and yelled down to the street for them to send us the crime lab…
Murray snapped his picture and according to sun shadows it was 1:03 p.m. (This is determined by the length of the shadows on the bricks of the building and based on solar positions recorded for 11/22/63. This technique is accurate to within a minute.)
The Warren Commission (WC) would claim Mooney found the shell casings at 1:12 PM, but Mooney said that he found them no later than "1 o'clock."
Mr. BALL - Does that look anything like the southeast corner of the building as you saw it that afternoon?
Mr. MOONEY - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - About what time of day was this?
Mr. MOONEY - Well, it was approaching 1 o'clock. It could have been 1 o'clock.
Mr. BALL - We will get to that in a moment. Now, I show you 510.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 510 for identification.)
Mr. BALL – Is that the empty shells you found?
Mr. MOONEY – Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - Are they shown there?
Mr. MOONEY - Yes, sir.
Quite a few have said although Mooney was credited with the finding of the shells it was Hill who actually found them. Why is this interesting? Because Sergeant Hill was a right-wing activist and a friend of Jack Ruby. He would be the one who so willingly changed his statement of an automatic shell being found to a revolver shell in regards to the murder weapon of Dallas Police officer J.D. Tippit (JDT). He would also be at the Texas Theater (TT) for the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO).
Let's not forget J.H. Sawyer's dispatch at around 1:12 PM of "On the THIRD FLOOR of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls and it looked like the man had been here for some time. We are checking it out now." This is probably the shells found at 1:12 PM (third floor) and they would be in addition to the ones found on the sixth floor around "1 o'clock" as Mooney said. Captain Will Fritz confirmed Mooney's estimate because he testified "...it wasn't very long until someone called me and told me...they had found some empty cartridges." Fritz arrived at the TSBD at 12:58 PM. It seems ridiculous that someone would have waited 10 minutes after Hill called down to Decker about the hulls being found to then tell Fritz.
Why is all of this important? Because based on statements of those officers and detectives there the rifle was found just minutes after the shell casings were found. In fact they had just placed the shells in an evidence envelope when Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone yelled out they found it. The photograph by Murray proves the shells were found close to 1 o'clock (no later than 1:03), thus, the rifle would have been found around 1:04-1:05 p.m.
I think after the Mauser was discovered Fritz took the shell casings out of the envelope and posed with them for Tom Alyea, and then threw them on back on the ground to be processed by Lieutenant Carl Day of the crime scene unit (who did not get there until 1:12 PM). He also pocketed one for at least two days. How do we know this? Because Mooney and Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig said there were THREE hulls, but the official record shows just two and a live round being found. Thus, it is quite possible for Craig to have left at 1:06 or 1:07 and still seen the FIRST rifle found.
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Jim Murray took a photograph of Sergeant Gerald Hill leaning out an arched sixth floor window of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) building, and he was pointing towards the corner window where the shell casings had just been found. Richard Trask reported this in his book years ago ("Pictures Of The Pain", p. 502). Trask said Hill responded to Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney who had just yelled his discovery of the spent shell casings "...and two frames showing Sergeant Gerald Hill yelling out of a sixth floor window at around 1:00 just after spent shells had been located under the corner window to which he is pointing." (Ibid., p. 523)
Mr. MOONEY - …So, at that time, I didn't lay my hands on anything, because I wanted to save every evidence we could for fingerprints. So I leaned out the window, the same window from which the shots were fired, looked down, and I saw Sheriff Bill Decker and Captain Will Fritz standing right on the ground.
Well, so I hollered, or signaled I hollered, I more or less hollered. I whistled a time or two before I got anybody to see me. And yet they was all looking that way, too except the sheriff, they wasn't looking up.
And I told him to get the crime lab officers en route, that I had the location spotted…
This caused Hill to open the window and scream down to Sheriff Bill Decker (who seemed vaguely non-interested in everything in my opinion - he couldn't seem to keep far enough away) to send up the crime scene folks.
Mr. HILL - …Then, on the floor near the baseboard or against the baseboard of the south wall of the building, in front of the second window, in front of the, well, we would have to say second window from the east corner, were three spent shells.
This is actually the jacket that holds the powder and not the slug. At this point, I asked the deputy sheriff to guard the scene, not to let anybody touch anything, and I went over still further west to another window about the middle of the building on the south side and yelled down to the street for them to send us the crime lab…
Murray snapped his picture and according to sun shadows it was 1:03 p.m. (This is determined by the length of the shadows on the bricks of the building and based on solar positions recorded for 11/22/63. This technique is accurate to within a minute.)
The Warren Commission (WC) would claim Mooney found the shell casings at 1:12 PM, but Mooney said that he found them no later than "1 o'clock."
Mr. BALL - Does that look anything like the southeast corner of the building as you saw it that afternoon?
Mr. MOONEY - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - About what time of day was this?
Mr. MOONEY - Well, it was approaching 1 o'clock. It could have been 1 o'clock.
Mr. BALL - We will get to that in a moment. Now, I show you 510.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 510 for identification.)
Mr. BALL – Is that the empty shells you found?
Mr. MOONEY – Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - Are they shown there?
Mr. MOONEY - Yes, sir.
Quite a few have said although Mooney was credited with the finding of the shells it was Hill who actually found them. Why is this interesting? Because Sergeant Hill was a right-wing activist and a friend of Jack Ruby. He would be the one who so willingly changed his statement of an automatic shell being found to a revolver shell in regards to the murder weapon of Dallas Police officer J.D. Tippit (JDT). He would also be at the Texas Theater (TT) for the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO).
Let's not forget J.H. Sawyer's dispatch at around 1:12 PM of "On the THIRD FLOOR of this book company down here, we found empty rifle hulls and it looked like the man had been here for some time. We are checking it out now." This is probably the shells found at 1:12 PM (third floor) and they would be in addition to the ones found on the sixth floor around "1 o'clock" as Mooney said. Captain Will Fritz confirmed Mooney's estimate because he testified "...it wasn't very long until someone called me and told me...they had found some empty cartridges." Fritz arrived at the TSBD at 12:58 PM. It seems ridiculous that someone would have waited 10 minutes after Hill called down to Decker about the hulls being found to then tell Fritz.
Why is all of this important? Because based on statements of those officers and detectives there the rifle was found just minutes after the shell casings were found. In fact they had just placed the shells in an evidence envelope when Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone yelled out they found it. The photograph by Murray proves the shells were found close to 1 o'clock (no later than 1:03), thus, the rifle would have been found around 1:04-1:05 p.m.
I think after the Mauser was discovered Fritz took the shell casings out of the envelope and posed with them for Tom Alyea, and then threw them on back on the ground to be processed by Lieutenant Carl Day of the crime scene unit (who did not get there until 1:12 PM). He also pocketed one for at least two days. How do we know this? Because Mooney and Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig said there were THREE hulls, but the official record shows just two and a live round being found. Thus, it is quite possible for Craig to have left at 1:06 or 1:07 and still seen the FIRST rifle found.