Post by Rob Caprio on Sept 27, 2021 14:58:39 GMT -5
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed (via the CIA) that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) traveled to Mexico City in late September 1963 to get a visa to travel to Cuba. Is this accurate? According to the evidence it is NOT as there is no evidence that supports LHO traveling to Mexico City.
We will look at more things tied to the alleged Mexico City visit. We have looked at the Odio visit that occurred at the same time, the hotel registry, the visa issue and the bus issue already in this topic.
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On page 299 of their Report the WC wrote the following:
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Eight weeks before the assassination, Oswald traveled to Mexico City where he visited both the Cuban and Soviet Embassies. Oswald's wife knew of this trip before he went, but she denied such knowledge until she testified before the Commission.
Trip to Mexico.--Oswald was in Mexico from September 26, 1963, until October 3, 1963. (WCR, p. 299)
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The WC is clearly stating as a FACT that he went, but as we have seen they promptly forgot to include evidence that supports their claim that he did go in their twenty-six volumes. Every piece of evidence they gave us, and current WC defenders use, is tainted and does NOT show LHO went as claimed.
The most firm evidence, according to the WC, for showing LHO was at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City as claimed was the photograph of the man and the voice that had been recorded. The picture of the man was entered as Commission Exhibit (CE) 237 and looks nothing like LHO. As for the voice this conversation was recorded between J. Edgar Hoover (JEH) and President Lyndon Johnson (LBJ).
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President Johnson: Have you established any more about the [Oswald] visit to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico in September?
JEH: No, that’s one angle that is very confusing for this reason. We have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet Embassy ; using Oswald’s name. That picture and the tape do NOT correspond to this man’s voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a SECOND person who was at the Soviet Embassy. (LBJ Library, LBJ Tapes, 11/23/63, President Johnson Telephone Conversations with FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover) (Emphasis added)
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Who was this “second” person? As I reported in Statements That Sink The WC’s Conclusions #167 and #209, questions 3, the name Johnny Mitchell Deveraux was given to us by Richard Case Nagell who told this to author Dick Russell in his book The Man Who Knew Too Much. Nagell said Deveraux was CIA and that he worked out of the Mexico City station office of the CIA. Others, including myself, think he bears a strong resemblance to Jim Hicks who said he was in Dealey Plaza (DP) and can be seen in the Willis #7 photograph. If it isn’t him he sure looks like Jim Hicks. The man who looks like Hicks has what appears to be a walkie-talkie or some kind of radio in his back pocket too.
The WC said LHO used his correct name on his visa application, but that a “clerical error” occurred as his FM-8 card was issued incorrectly (the name on it appears as Lee, Harvey Oswald). As we saw in #45 and #46 there is NO evidence LHO was ever issued a visa at all. The man next in line with LHO, William Gaudet, said he did NOT see him and he knew LHO by sight. We also saw in-depth coverage of the FM-8 issue in a previous post, but the bottom line is this—if LHO never filled out an application for a visa how could any “clerical error” occur? Also, and most importantly, why would the Mexican officials let him in to their country when his name was NOT Harvey Oswald Lee? What could he have produced to show this was his real name?
Remember the letter LHO supposedly wrote to the Russian Embassy saying he would have applied for an extension to his visa, but that would have caused him to use his REAL NAME? Well, according to the WC he did use his real name so this has to be proof that he was NOT the person in the Soviet Embassy!
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In any event, Oswald used his CORRECT name in making reservations for the trip to Mexico City…(WCR, p. 314) (Emphasis added)
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How do they know this clerical error was committed by the clerk at the Mexican consulate in New Orleans? Did they investigate to see if this clerk had done this before? I have not seen anything so they just assumed this is what happened instead of finding out what did happen—i.e. someone else using LHO’s name. It was convenient to handle it this way.
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed (via the CIA) that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) traveled to Mexico City in late September 1963 to get a visa to travel to Cuba. Is this accurate? According to the evidence it is NOT as there is no evidence that supports LHO traveling to Mexico City.
We will look at more things tied to the alleged Mexico City visit. We have looked at the Odio visit that occurred at the same time, the hotel registry, the visa issue and the bus issue already in this topic.
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On page 299 of their Report the WC wrote the following:
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historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/pages/WCReport_0162a.gif
Eight weeks before the assassination, Oswald traveled to Mexico City where he visited both the Cuban and Soviet Embassies. Oswald's wife knew of this trip before he went, but she denied such knowledge until she testified before the Commission.
Trip to Mexico.--Oswald was in Mexico from September 26, 1963, until October 3, 1963. (WCR, p. 299)
historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0162a.htm
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The WC is clearly stating as a FACT that he went, but as we have seen they promptly forgot to include evidence that supports their claim that he did go in their twenty-six volumes. Every piece of evidence they gave us, and current WC defenders use, is tainted and does NOT show LHO went as claimed.
The most firm evidence, according to the WC, for showing LHO was at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City as claimed was the photograph of the man and the voice that had been recorded. The picture of the man was entered as Commission Exhibit (CE) 237 and looks nothing like LHO. As for the voice this conversation was recorded between J. Edgar Hoover (JEH) and President Lyndon Johnson (LBJ).
CE 237: historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0331b.jpg
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President Johnson: Have you established any more about the [Oswald] visit to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico in September?
JEH: No, that’s one angle that is very confusing for this reason. We have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet Embassy ; using Oswald’s name. That picture and the tape do NOT correspond to this man’s voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a SECOND person who was at the Soviet Embassy. (LBJ Library, LBJ Tapes, 11/23/63, President Johnson Telephone Conversations with FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover) (Emphasis added)
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Who was this “second” person? As I reported in Statements That Sink The WC’s Conclusions #167 and #209, questions 3, the name Johnny Mitchell Deveraux was given to us by Richard Case Nagell who told this to author Dick Russell in his book The Man Who Knew Too Much. Nagell said Deveraux was CIA and that he worked out of the Mexico City station office of the CIA. Others, including myself, think he bears a strong resemblance to Jim Hicks who said he was in Dealey Plaza (DP) and can be seen in the Willis #7 photograph. If it isn’t him he sure looks like Jim Hicks. The man who looks like Hicks has what appears to be a walkie-talkie or some kind of radio in his back pocket too.
The WC said LHO used his correct name on his visa application, but that a “clerical error” occurred as his FM-8 card was issued incorrectly (the name on it appears as Lee, Harvey Oswald). As we saw in #45 and #46 there is NO evidence LHO was ever issued a visa at all. The man next in line with LHO, William Gaudet, said he did NOT see him and he knew LHO by sight. We also saw in-depth coverage of the FM-8 issue in a previous post, but the bottom line is this—if LHO never filled out an application for a visa how could any “clerical error” occur? Also, and most importantly, why would the Mexican officials let him in to their country when his name was NOT Harvey Oswald Lee? What could he have produced to show this was his real name?
Remember the letter LHO supposedly wrote to the Russian Embassy saying he would have applied for an extension to his visa, but that would have caused him to use his REAL NAME? Well, according to the WC he did use his real name so this has to be proof that he was NOT the person in the Soviet Embassy!
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In any event, Oswald used his CORRECT name in making reservations for the trip to Mexico City…(WCR, p. 314) (Emphasis added)
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How do they know this clerical error was committed by the clerk at the Mexican consulate in New Orleans? Did they investigate to see if this clerk had done this before? I have not seen anything so they just assumed this is what happened instead of finding out what did happen—i.e. someone else using LHO’s name. It was convenient to handle it this way.