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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) shot and killed Dallas Police Department Officer J.D. Tippit (JDT) with his alleged revolver on November 22,1963, while fleeing from his assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) in Dealey Plaza (DP).
Of course the WC never provided any supporting evidence for these claims. The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) would look at the evidence allegedly involved in the shooting of JDT.
The HSCA Says…The Tippit Evidence.
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Right out of the gate the HSCA admitted that the bullets removed from JDT’s body could NOT be linked to the alleged murder weapon (a.k.a “Oswald’s gun” by the HSCA).
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15. Regarding the evidence from the Tippit shooting, the bullets removed from the officer's body could not be positively identified with Oswald's revolver. The FBI firearm experts found that the characteristics engraved on the bullets fired by the revolver were erratic. The FBI experts were unable to identify a correspondence among their own test-fired bullets, even though they were documented as being fired from the same revolver. The cartridge cases found near Tippit's body were, however, identified as having been fired in Oswald's revolver. (HSCA VII, p. 357)
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The HSCA statement that the bullets removed from JDT’s body could not be matched to the alleged murder weapon is all by itself indicative of LHO’s innocence. This one fact would have barred any indictment against him as in any normal case this would have been enough to show that it couldn’t be proven that he shot JDT. Of course, this had no effect on the WC’s “LHO did it” mantra.
It is then stated that even the FBI couldn’t link their test-fired bullets to the weapon. Why? Who knows as they never tell us why, but it has allowed the WC defenders to state that this is why the bullets in JDT could not be linked to Commission Exhibit (CE) 143. If this was so, why wouldn’t every criminal bent on murder not use a modified gun like CE 143 to get away with the crime? Because this is a ridiculous statement by those desperate to blame LHO.
The last sentence is full of incorrect information. The cartridge cases the WC claimed were found near the body of JDT may match to CE 143, but what does this really mean? Nothing as these cases have no chain of custody and there is no evidence showing that LHO owned or was carrying CE 143 on November 22, 1963. Oh, and to make matters worse for both the WC and the HSCA -- there is no real evidence showing that LHO was even at Tenth and Patton when JDT was shot.
The HSCA asked their firearms panel to look into a number of things during their time together. The big questions were about the differences between a Smith & Wesson .38 and Smith & Wesson .38 Special; were the alleged four cartridge cases allegedly found near JDT’s body actually a match to CE 143; were the four bullets in JDT’s body a match to CE 143, and, an explanation for why the type of ammunition allegedly found at the murder scene didn’t match the type of ammunition described as being used at the autopsy (2 – Western Cartridge Company & 2 – Remington-Peters vs. 3 – Western Cartridge Company & 1 – Remington-Peters). (Ibid., p. 361)
The HSCA laid out the evidence that the firearms panel would examine in regards to the JDT murder.
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Evidence Examined
170. CE 143--One .38 special caliber Smith and Wesson revolver, Victory model, serial No. V510210, seized from Oswald when he was apprehended in the Texas theater. (See figs. 26A and 26B.)*
171. The barrel is rifled with five lands and five grooves, right twist. The cylinder has a six-cartridge capacity.
172. The CE 143 revolver had been altered to accept .38 special caliber ammunition and presumably to allow easier concealment, as follows:
a. the barrel had been shortened from the muzzle end to it present length of 2 1/4 inches.
b. The muzzle end had been recrowned.
c. The cylinder had been rechambered from .38 S. & W. caliber to accommodate .38 special caliber cartridges.
d. The front sight had been reset.
*The panel found the revolver to be in good operating condition. It can be fired single action or double action. The trigger pull was measured at about 3 1/2 pounds single action and 10 1/4 pounds double action.
e. The "U.S. Property" markings located on the left side of the top strap had been partially obliterated.
f. The lanyard swivel and ring had been removed and the hole filled with metal.
173. CE 143 was test-fired four times by the panel into a Horizontal Water Recovery Tank, using two Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridges with 158-grain, copper-coated (Lubalov), lead, round-nose bullets, and two Remington-Peters .38 special caliber cartridges with 158-grain, plain lead, round-nose bullets.
174. CE 518--Four cartridges found in the CE 143 revolver. Two cartridges, designated Q78 and Q79 by the FBI, are Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridges with copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullets. The other two, designated Q80 and Q81 by the FBI. are Remington-Peters .38 special caliber cartridges with plain lead, round-nose bullets.* (See fig. 27.)
175. CE 587--One Western Cartridge Co..38 S. & W. caliber cartridge with a copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, roundnose bullet, acquired by the FBI and used as a standard. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 264.)
176. CE 588--One Western Cartridge Co. unfired .38 S. & W. caliber cartridge case and one unfired .38 caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy). lead, round-nose bullet, weighing 145.1 grains and measuring 0.635 inch long, acquired by the FBI. Both were used as standards. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 264.)
178. CE 589--Assembled and disassembled cartridges--one Remington-Peters .38 S. & W. caliber cartridge with a plain lead, roundnose bullet. measuring 1.20 inches long overall; one Remington-Peters unfired .38 S. & W. caliber cartridge case measuring 0.763 inch long and one unfired .38 S. & W. caliber plain lead, round-nose bullet measuring 0.661 inch long. The FBI used these as standards. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 264.)
179. CE 590--Assembled and disassembled cartridges--one Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridge with a copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullet measuring 1.530 inches long; one unfired Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridge case measuring 1.150 inches long; and one .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullet measuring 0.730 inch long. The cartridges and components in this exhibit were used by the FBI as standards. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 264. )
180. CE 591--Assembled and disassembled cartridges--one Remington-Peters .38 special caliber cartridge with a plain lead, roundnose bullet measuring 1.550 inches long overall; one unfired Remington-Peters .38 special caliber cartridge case measuring 1,150 inches long; and one .38 caliber plain lead, round-nose bullet measuring 0.730 inch long. The FBI used these as standards. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. e64.)
181. CE 592--Five Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridges with copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullets, found.
*The panel's visual and microscopic examinations revealed no markings that could be attributed to any attempt to discharge them in a firearm.
182. in Oswald's trouser pocket, designated Q82 through Q86 by the FBI.* (See fig. 28)
183. CE 594--Four expended cartridge cases retrieved from the scene of the Tippit murder, designated Q74 through Q77 by the FBI. Q75 and Q76 are .38 special caliber of Western Cartridge Co. manufacture; Q74 and Q77 are .38 special caliber of Remington-Peters manufacture. (See fig. 29.)
184. CE 595.--Two cartridge cases test-fired by the FBI in the CE 143 revolver--one Winchester Repeating Arms .38 special caliber designated K3 by the FBI** and one Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber, designated K3 by the FBI. (See fig. 30.)
185. CE 602.--One .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose ballet. and one damaged, brass-colored button with the lettering "city of Dallas." The bullet and button were removed from the body of Officer Tippit. The bullet is consistent with Western Cartridge Co. marefracture. The c]ass characteristics are five lands and five grooves. right twist. The weight is 155.4 grains. (See fig. 31.)
186. CE 603.--One .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubalov)lead, round-nose bullet removed from the body of Officer Tippit. The bullet is consistent with Western Cartridge Co. manufacture. The class characteristics are five lands and five grooves, right twist. The weight is 155.1 grains. (See fig. 32.)
187. CE 604.--One .38 special caliber lead, round-nose bullet. removed from the body of Officer Tippit. The bullet is consistent with Remington-Peters manufacture. The class characteristics are five lands and five grooves, right twist. The weight is 154.7 grains. (See fig. 33.)
188. CE 605.--One .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullet removed from the body of Officer Tippit. The bullet is consistent with Western Cartridge Co. manufacture. The class characteristics are five lands and five grooves, right twist. The weight is 152.8 grains. (See fig. 34.)
189. CE 606.--Two bullets test-fired by the FBI in the CE 143 revolver, as follows: One .38 special caliber lead, round-nose bullet consistent with Winchester Repeating Arms manufacture; and one .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullet consistent with Western Cartridge Co. manufacture. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 271.)
191. Panel Tippit T 1 T 4.--and T-2: .38 special caliber cartridges of Remington Cartridge Co. manufacture, with lead bullets (see figs. 35A, 35B, and 35E); T-3 and T-4:.38 special caliber cartridges of Western Cartridge Co. manufacture with copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullets (see figs. 35C, 35D, and 35E).
192. All cartridges were test fired by the panel into a horizontal water-recovery tank. (Ibid., pp. 373-375)
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This is a recap of what was examined, but all that matters is the bullets taken from JDT’s body. All the discussion about cartridges is really a waste of time as the ones allegedly found at the scene have no chain of custody. Furthermore, and most importantly, cartridges do not kill anyone. Bullets do.
The bullets in JDT did not point to LHO at all. In addition to them not matching CE 143 (which was never legally tied to LHO anyway), there was a major discrepancy in what type of bullets they were too. The HSCA panel honestly admitted any hypothesis that they offered to explain this was “speculation.”
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205. The panel offers two possible explanations for the discrepancy:
1. One Western cartridge case was not recovered or is missing, and one Remington-Peters lead bullet missed Officer Tippit and also was not recovered.
2. One Western cartridge case was not recovered or is missing, and one fired Reinington-Peters cartridge case was in the revolver prior to the Tippit shooting.
206. Inasmuch as the panel's examinations were related to physical evidence only, a hypothesis to account for the discrepancy regarding the recovered cartridge cases and bullets is speculation. (See figs. 31, 32, 33, and 34.)
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So why were the bullets described differently at the murder scene and at the autopsy? Which is more likely to be incorrect? The murder scene of course so this alone shows that the shells put forth as evidence are suspect.
The WC claimed that LHO killed JDT when they could not show he was at Tenth and Patton at the time of the shooting; that he owned CE 143; that he was carrying CE 143 and none of the bullets taken from JDT’s body matched to CE 143. This shows better than anything I could ever say that the whole official theory is all smoke and mirrors.
It is a total falsehood. The only reason for this is to cover-up the truth which is that a conspiracy took the life of JFK and JDT.
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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) shot and killed Dallas Police Department Officer J.D. Tippit (JDT) with his alleged revolver on November 22,1963, while fleeing from his assassination of President John F. Kennedy (JFK) in Dealey Plaza (DP).
Of course the WC never provided any supporting evidence for these claims. The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) would look at the evidence allegedly involved in the shooting of JDT.
The HSCA Says…The Tippit Evidence.
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Right out of the gate the HSCA admitted that the bullets removed from JDT’s body could NOT be linked to the alleged murder weapon (a.k.a “Oswald’s gun” by the HSCA).
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15. Regarding the evidence from the Tippit shooting, the bullets removed from the officer's body could not be positively identified with Oswald's revolver. The FBI firearm experts found that the characteristics engraved on the bullets fired by the revolver were erratic. The FBI experts were unable to identify a correspondence among their own test-fired bullets, even though they were documented as being fired from the same revolver. The cartridge cases found near Tippit's body were, however, identified as having been fired in Oswald's revolver. (HSCA VII, p. 357)
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The HSCA statement that the bullets removed from JDT’s body could not be matched to the alleged murder weapon is all by itself indicative of LHO’s innocence. This one fact would have barred any indictment against him as in any normal case this would have been enough to show that it couldn’t be proven that he shot JDT. Of course, this had no effect on the WC’s “LHO did it” mantra.
It is then stated that even the FBI couldn’t link their test-fired bullets to the weapon. Why? Who knows as they never tell us why, but it has allowed the WC defenders to state that this is why the bullets in JDT could not be linked to Commission Exhibit (CE) 143. If this was so, why wouldn’t every criminal bent on murder not use a modified gun like CE 143 to get away with the crime? Because this is a ridiculous statement by those desperate to blame LHO.
The last sentence is full of incorrect information. The cartridge cases the WC claimed were found near the body of JDT may match to CE 143, but what does this really mean? Nothing as these cases have no chain of custody and there is no evidence showing that LHO owned or was carrying CE 143 on November 22, 1963. Oh, and to make matters worse for both the WC and the HSCA -- there is no real evidence showing that LHO was even at Tenth and Patton when JDT was shot.
The HSCA asked their firearms panel to look into a number of things during their time together. The big questions were about the differences between a Smith & Wesson .38 and Smith & Wesson .38 Special; were the alleged four cartridge cases allegedly found near JDT’s body actually a match to CE 143; were the four bullets in JDT’s body a match to CE 143, and, an explanation for why the type of ammunition allegedly found at the murder scene didn’t match the type of ammunition described as being used at the autopsy (2 – Western Cartridge Company & 2 – Remington-Peters vs. 3 – Western Cartridge Company & 1 – Remington-Peters). (Ibid., p. 361)
The HSCA laid out the evidence that the firearms panel would examine in regards to the JDT murder.
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Evidence Examined
170. CE 143--One .38 special caliber Smith and Wesson revolver, Victory model, serial No. V510210, seized from Oswald when he was apprehended in the Texas theater. (See figs. 26A and 26B.)*
171. The barrel is rifled with five lands and five grooves, right twist. The cylinder has a six-cartridge capacity.
172. The CE 143 revolver had been altered to accept .38 special caliber ammunition and presumably to allow easier concealment, as follows:
a. the barrel had been shortened from the muzzle end to it present length of 2 1/4 inches.
b. The muzzle end had been recrowned.
c. The cylinder had been rechambered from .38 S. & W. caliber to accommodate .38 special caliber cartridges.
d. The front sight had been reset.
*The panel found the revolver to be in good operating condition. It can be fired single action or double action. The trigger pull was measured at about 3 1/2 pounds single action and 10 1/4 pounds double action.
e. The "U.S. Property" markings located on the left side of the top strap had been partially obliterated.
f. The lanyard swivel and ring had been removed and the hole filled with metal.
173. CE 143 was test-fired four times by the panel into a Horizontal Water Recovery Tank, using two Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridges with 158-grain, copper-coated (Lubalov), lead, round-nose bullets, and two Remington-Peters .38 special caliber cartridges with 158-grain, plain lead, round-nose bullets.
174. CE 518--Four cartridges found in the CE 143 revolver. Two cartridges, designated Q78 and Q79 by the FBI, are Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridges with copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullets. The other two, designated Q80 and Q81 by the FBI. are Remington-Peters .38 special caliber cartridges with plain lead, round-nose bullets.* (See fig. 27.)
175. CE 587--One Western Cartridge Co..38 S. & W. caliber cartridge with a copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, roundnose bullet, acquired by the FBI and used as a standard. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 264.)
176. CE 588--One Western Cartridge Co. unfired .38 S. & W. caliber cartridge case and one unfired .38 caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy). lead, round-nose bullet, weighing 145.1 grains and measuring 0.635 inch long, acquired by the FBI. Both were used as standards. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 264.)
178. CE 589--Assembled and disassembled cartridges--one Remington-Peters .38 S. & W. caliber cartridge with a plain lead, roundnose bullet. measuring 1.20 inches long overall; one Remington-Peters unfired .38 S. & W. caliber cartridge case measuring 0.763 inch long and one unfired .38 S. & W. caliber plain lead, round-nose bullet measuring 0.661 inch long. The FBI used these as standards. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 264.)
179. CE 590--Assembled and disassembled cartridges--one Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridge with a copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullet measuring 1.530 inches long; one unfired Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridge case measuring 1.150 inches long; and one .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullet measuring 0.730 inch long. The cartridges and components in this exhibit were used by the FBI as standards. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 264. )
180. CE 591--Assembled and disassembled cartridges--one Remington-Peters .38 special caliber cartridge with a plain lead, roundnose bullet measuring 1.550 inches long overall; one unfired Remington-Peters .38 special caliber cartridge case measuring 1,150 inches long; and one .38 caliber plain lead, round-nose bullet measuring 0.730 inch long. The FBI used these as standards. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. e64.)
181. CE 592--Five Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber cartridges with copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullets, found.
*The panel's visual and microscopic examinations revealed no markings that could be attributed to any attempt to discharge them in a firearm.
182. in Oswald's trouser pocket, designated Q82 through Q86 by the FBI.* (See fig. 28)
183. CE 594--Four expended cartridge cases retrieved from the scene of the Tippit murder, designated Q74 through Q77 by the FBI. Q75 and Q76 are .38 special caliber of Western Cartridge Co. manufacture; Q74 and Q77 are .38 special caliber of Remington-Peters manufacture. (See fig. 29.)
184. CE 595.--Two cartridge cases test-fired by the FBI in the CE 143 revolver--one Winchester Repeating Arms .38 special caliber designated K3 by the FBI** and one Western Cartridge Co..38 special caliber, designated K3 by the FBI. (See fig. 30.)
185. CE 602.--One .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose ballet. and one damaged, brass-colored button with the lettering "city of Dallas." The bullet and button were removed from the body of Officer Tippit. The bullet is consistent with Western Cartridge Co. marefracture. The c]ass characteristics are five lands and five grooves. right twist. The weight is 155.4 grains. (See fig. 31.)
186. CE 603.--One .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubalov)lead, round-nose bullet removed from the body of Officer Tippit. The bullet is consistent with Western Cartridge Co. manufacture. The class characteristics are five lands and five grooves, right twist. The weight is 155.1 grains. (See fig. 32.)
187. CE 604.--One .38 special caliber lead, round-nose bullet. removed from the body of Officer Tippit. The bullet is consistent with Remington-Peters manufacture. The class characteristics are five lands and five grooves, right twist. The weight is 154.7 grains. (See fig. 33.)
188. CE 605.--One .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullet removed from the body of Officer Tippit. The bullet is consistent with Western Cartridge Co. manufacture. The class characteristics are five lands and five grooves, right twist. The weight is 152.8 grains. (See fig. 34.)
189. CE 606.--Two bullets test-fired by the FBI in the CE 143 revolver, as follows: One .38 special caliber lead, round-nose bullet consistent with Winchester Repeating Arms manufacture; and one .38 special caliber copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullet consistent with Western Cartridge Co. manufacture. (See hearings before the Warren Commission, vol. 17, p. 271.)
191. Panel Tippit T 1 T 4.--and T-2: .38 special caliber cartridges of Remington Cartridge Co. manufacture, with lead bullets (see figs. 35A, 35B, and 35E); T-3 and T-4:.38 special caliber cartridges of Western Cartridge Co. manufacture with copper-coated (Lubaloy), lead, round-nose bullets (see figs. 35C, 35D, and 35E).
192. All cartridges were test fired by the panel into a horizontal water-recovery tank. (Ibid., pp. 373-375)
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This is a recap of what was examined, but all that matters is the bullets taken from JDT’s body. All the discussion about cartridges is really a waste of time as the ones allegedly found at the scene have no chain of custody. Furthermore, and most importantly, cartridges do not kill anyone. Bullets do.
The bullets in JDT did not point to LHO at all. In addition to them not matching CE 143 (which was never legally tied to LHO anyway), there was a major discrepancy in what type of bullets they were too. The HSCA panel honestly admitted any hypothesis that they offered to explain this was “speculation.”
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205. The panel offers two possible explanations for the discrepancy:
1. One Western cartridge case was not recovered or is missing, and one Remington-Peters lead bullet missed Officer Tippit and also was not recovered.
2. One Western cartridge case was not recovered or is missing, and one fired Reinington-Peters cartridge case was in the revolver prior to the Tippit shooting.
206. Inasmuch as the panel's examinations were related to physical evidence only, a hypothesis to account for the discrepancy regarding the recovered cartridge cases and bullets is speculation. (See figs. 31, 32, 33, and 34.)
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So why were the bullets described differently at the murder scene and at the autopsy? Which is more likely to be incorrect? The murder scene of course so this alone shows that the shells put forth as evidence are suspect.
The WC claimed that LHO killed JDT when they could not show he was at Tenth and Patton at the time of the shooting; that he owned CE 143; that he was carrying CE 143 and none of the bullets taken from JDT’s body matched to CE 143. This shows better than anything I could ever say that the whole official theory is all smoke and mirrors.
It is a total falsehood. The only reason for this is to cover-up the truth which is that a conspiracy took the life of JFK and JDT.