Post by Rob Caprio on Sept 2, 2019 9:46:43 GMT -5
All portions ©️ Robert Caprio 2006-2024
Notice To Lurkers:
Ben will deny these very obvious lies by claiming he has given evidence already (a favorite trick of the LNer clan) or that he has quoted me saying something, but do NOT fall for it. Demand him to provide this evidence to you. Demand that he provides my quote IN context as he has a habit of EDITING other people’s words and ignoring clarifications even when they are made BEFORE he responded.
Ben will resort to insults and false accusations like all LNers do so take note of how often he does this.
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Let's start to add in Ben's OWN notice as he does EXACTLY what he warns you folks LNers will do!
“Important Note for Lurkers - there are many trolls on this forum who's only purpose is to obstruct debate, deny the evidence, and attempt to change message threads from discussing the evidence, to personal insults and attacks.” (Ben Holmes’s Refrain on his “series” posts.)
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Ben made the claim that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) went to Mexico City when the CIA and the Warren Commission (WC) claimed he did in late September to early October of 1963. One the two pieces of evidence that he gave us, and said SUPPORTED THIS CLAIM, was an alleged entry of Silvia Duran's name into LHO's personal diary/notebook.
Ben said things like this:
“The Silvia Duran notation, the Oswald letter to the Russian embassy, *both* support "the claim being made".
I'm left with the evidence, Robsie. I'm left with citations...You have neither.” (Ben Homes)
He used this alleged notation as evidence of the claim he supports and the WC made. Of course he would lie yesterday and say he did NOT say this, but here is the quote in HIS OWN WORDS!
Ben would also say this:
“And strangely enough, Silvia Duran's name appears in Oswald's notebook. Something I've mentioned before, and you've run away from...For someone making the claim that Oswald was never in Mexico - that's going to be a tough one to explain.” (Ben Holmes – 1/27/09)
Again, he is implying LHO had to know (even in a very general sense as in "know to ask for her when he got to the Cuban embassy) Ms. Duran because her name allegedly appeared in his personal diary/notebook. I made a list of UNSUPPORTED claims by Ben and this was on there:
**Ben never proved his claim that LHO knew of Silvia Duran.**
Of course Ben responded to these claims with denials in most cases. As he said this to the claim listed above:
"Never said this." (Ben Holmes)
Of course he DID say this and I have the quote to prove it too, and here it is!
“If Oswald never went to Mexico, **THERE'S NO CONCEIVABLE WAY HE WOULD HAVE EVEN KNOWN SILVIA DURAN'S NAME** - yet there it is in his notebook...something that your theory can't explain.” (Ben Holmes – 1/28/09)
Ben is saying LHO "knew of" Silvia Duran because her name was in his personal diary/notebook allegedly. It does NOT matter to Ben that it was NOT proven to be written by LHO himself, or that they never looked into when and how he contacted her, or into who may have given the name to him for a "mission." NO, NONE of that matters to Ben, he knows the WC claimed LHO went and that is good enough for him.
NOW, Ben will play the word semantic game, but the term "knew of" is a general one and LHO could NOT "know of" her without either contacting her or having her name given to him IF it was he who wrote it in his personal diary/notebook. Duran NEVER mentioned a contact between her and LHO so this is doubtful. Another reason I used that term is Ben did IMPLY they met at a party at her cousin's house when we were debating the witness in this aspect and whether they were "corroborated" or not. There was an alleged party LHO allegedly attended in Mexico City at the time the CIA/WC said he went, and he was there allegedly with two other Americans. Ben used this as his "corroboration" proof and it was insinuated by those claiming it happened that Duran and LHO spoke.
Ben can spin it anyway he wants and use his SICK DEBATE TACTICS all he wants, but we see once again he is a liar. Denial is a BIG weapon of LNers as they constantly deny everything that does NOT point to LHO.
He said LHO had to know or know of Silvia Duran but he never showed this claim to be true. Thus it is an UNSUPPORTED CLAIM. Another one is how this notation, IF genuine, proved LHO made a long trip to Mexico City. He claimed it was in "support" of the claim he went, but failed to prove or show how this was correct.
Ben is a liar and I will be highlighting more of these for you. I expect the sick, evil stuff to INCREASE the more I uncover him for what he is -- a WC shill.
It is NOT too late though, Ben can admit and retract his lies and come back to the CT fold, will he?
Notice To Lurkers:
Ben will deny these very obvious lies by claiming he has given evidence already (a favorite trick of the LNer clan) or that he has quoted me saying something, but do NOT fall for it. Demand him to provide this evidence to you. Demand that he provides my quote IN context as he has a habit of EDITING other people’s words and ignoring clarifications even when they are made BEFORE he responded.
Ben will resort to insults and false accusations like all LNers do so take note of how often he does this.
*******************************************************************
Let's start to add in Ben's OWN notice as he does EXACTLY what he warns you folks LNers will do!
“Important Note for Lurkers - there are many trolls on this forum who's only purpose is to obstruct debate, deny the evidence, and attempt to change message threads from discussing the evidence, to personal insults and attacks.” (Ben Holmes’s Refrain on his “series” posts.)
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Ben made the claim that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) went to Mexico City when the CIA and the Warren Commission (WC) claimed he did in late September to early October of 1963. One the two pieces of evidence that he gave us, and said SUPPORTED THIS CLAIM, was an alleged entry of Silvia Duran's name into LHO's personal diary/notebook.
Ben said things like this:
“The Silvia Duran notation, the Oswald letter to the Russian embassy, *both* support "the claim being made".
I'm left with the evidence, Robsie. I'm left with citations...You have neither.” (Ben Homes)
He used this alleged notation as evidence of the claim he supports and the WC made. Of course he would lie yesterday and say he did NOT say this, but here is the quote in HIS OWN WORDS!
Ben would also say this:
“And strangely enough, Silvia Duran's name appears in Oswald's notebook. Something I've mentioned before, and you've run away from...For someone making the claim that Oswald was never in Mexico - that's going to be a tough one to explain.” (Ben Holmes – 1/27/09)
Again, he is implying LHO had to know (even in a very general sense as in "know to ask for her when he got to the Cuban embassy) Ms. Duran because her name allegedly appeared in his personal diary/notebook. I made a list of UNSUPPORTED claims by Ben and this was on there:
**Ben never proved his claim that LHO knew of Silvia Duran.**
Of course Ben responded to these claims with denials in most cases. As he said this to the claim listed above:
"Never said this." (Ben Holmes)
Of course he DID say this and I have the quote to prove it too, and here it is!
“If Oswald never went to Mexico, **THERE'S NO CONCEIVABLE WAY HE WOULD HAVE EVEN KNOWN SILVIA DURAN'S NAME** - yet there it is in his notebook...something that your theory can't explain.” (Ben Holmes – 1/28/09)
Ben is saying LHO "knew of" Silvia Duran because her name was in his personal diary/notebook allegedly. It does NOT matter to Ben that it was NOT proven to be written by LHO himself, or that they never looked into when and how he contacted her, or into who may have given the name to him for a "mission." NO, NONE of that matters to Ben, he knows the WC claimed LHO went and that is good enough for him.
NOW, Ben will play the word semantic game, but the term "knew of" is a general one and LHO could NOT "know of" her without either contacting her or having her name given to him IF it was he who wrote it in his personal diary/notebook. Duran NEVER mentioned a contact between her and LHO so this is doubtful. Another reason I used that term is Ben did IMPLY they met at a party at her cousin's house when we were debating the witness in this aspect and whether they were "corroborated" or not. There was an alleged party LHO allegedly attended in Mexico City at the time the CIA/WC said he went, and he was there allegedly with two other Americans. Ben used this as his "corroboration" proof and it was insinuated by those claiming it happened that Duran and LHO spoke.
Ben can spin it anyway he wants and use his SICK DEBATE TACTICS all he wants, but we see once again he is a liar. Denial is a BIG weapon of LNers as they constantly deny everything that does NOT point to LHO.
He said LHO had to know or know of Silvia Duran but he never showed this claim to be true. Thus it is an UNSUPPORTED CLAIM. Another one is how this notation, IF genuine, proved LHO made a long trip to Mexico City. He claimed it was in "support" of the claim he went, but failed to prove or show how this was correct.
Ben is a liar and I will be highlighting more of these for you. I expect the sick, evil stuff to INCREASE the more I uncover him for what he is -- a WC shill.
It is NOT too late though, Ben can admit and retract his lies and come back to the CT fold, will he?