Post by Rob Caprio on Jul 25, 2020 21:08:28 GMT -5
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Notice To Lurkers:
Ben will deny these very obvious lies by claiming he has given evidence already (a favorite trick of the LNer clan) or that he has quoted me saying something, but do NOT fall for it. Demand him to provide this evidence to you. Demand that he provides my quote IN context as he has a habit of EDITING other peoples' words and ignoring clarifications even when they are made BEFORE he responded.
Ben will resort to insults and false accusations like all LNers do so take note of how often he does this.
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Let's start to add in Ben's OWN notice as he does EXACTLY what he warns you folks LNers will do!
“Important Note for Lurkers - there are many trolls on this forum who's only purpose is to obstruct debate, deny the evidence, and attempt to change message threads from discussing the evidence, to personal insults and attacks.” (Ben Holmes’s Refrain on his “series” posts.)
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Let's look at another claim of Walt Cakebread’s that Ben Holmes has NOT called him out for, even though WE know he knows it is a lie!
"Walt never proved his claim that Truly held a “roll call” and LHO was the ONLY one missing." (Robert)
Walt Cakebread likes to claim that Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) superintendent Roy Truly held a roll call and that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) was the ONLY one missing. He has said this to me awhile back in one of our discussions.
“Actually he wasn't "vouched for" in the TSBD..... Sure Truly said "he's an employee"... "he belongs here" But only an hour later he singled out Oswald as the only employee missing.... “ (Walt)
I explained to Walt that NO roll call was done and that LHO was NOT the ONLY one missing, but he jumped into attack mode and would not listen. Imagine my surprise when I saw this exchange from 1999 with Martin Shackleford!
“A roll call of the TSBD employees was conducted and several men were missing...The cops would definitely have asked the other employees if they knew where the missing men were.” (Walt – 8/17/1999)
"Walt: There was no roll call. Various groups of employees were questioned, and their names taken down, but there was no group gathering. When Capt. Fritz later referred to this questioning, Lt. Gerry Hill misinterpreted it as a "roll call," and referred to it in those terms--and it passed into myth.” (Martin Shackleford)
“Thanks Martin....I never knew this and had always accepted the myth.....The fact that the false information originated with Detective Gerry Hill is not surprising. Hill is the source of much of the false information in.this case.” (Walt)
So this is proof Walt was told at least once (probably many other times too) that NO roll call was ever done by Truly and we see even he knew back in 1999 LHO was not the only one missing.
I admit my quote of Walt's is NOT the best, but he was insisting on a roll call and that LHO was the only one missing with me. The point is we know Ben knows this is NOT the truth, but we did NOT hear from him in this exchange. Ben has said this about the roll call and the point of LHO being the only one missing.
"He was the only TSBD worker to permanently leave the building *after* the assassination and before dismissal later that afternoon.” (LNer)
“Another LNT'er factoid... simply untrue. Why lie about the evidence?
As most long-time readers of this forum are well aware, there were a number of people that weren't there after the assassination - one of them even had an APB put out on him.” (Ben Holmes)
So why did Ben NOT call Walt on his lie, and I use this word because we see he was set straight at least once before, as he said he does this on many occasions? Obviously Walt COULD NOT support his claim because it is untrue, and despite Ben saying this among other things, we did NOT hear from him.
“When people refuse to support their own assertions, I merely point it out.” (Ben Holmes – 7/9/09)
Why can Walt make blatant claims like the LNers but we do NOT see a response from Ben when he says he won't tolerate this stuff? Because they are a pair of WC shills (maybe the same person). No real CTer would continue to spread false information after they were told the truth.
Notice To Lurkers:
Ben will deny these very obvious lies by claiming he has given evidence already (a favorite trick of the LNer clan) or that he has quoted me saying something, but do NOT fall for it. Demand him to provide this evidence to you. Demand that he provides my quote IN context as he has a habit of EDITING other peoples' words and ignoring clarifications even when they are made BEFORE he responded.
Ben will resort to insults and false accusations like all LNers do so take note of how often he does this.
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Let's start to add in Ben's OWN notice as he does EXACTLY what he warns you folks LNers will do!
“Important Note for Lurkers - there are many trolls on this forum who's only purpose is to obstruct debate, deny the evidence, and attempt to change message threads from discussing the evidence, to personal insults and attacks.” (Ben Holmes’s Refrain on his “series” posts.)
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Let's look at another claim of Walt Cakebread’s that Ben Holmes has NOT called him out for, even though WE know he knows it is a lie!
"Walt never proved his claim that Truly held a “roll call” and LHO was the ONLY one missing." (Robert)
Walt Cakebread likes to claim that Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) superintendent Roy Truly held a roll call and that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) was the ONLY one missing. He has said this to me awhile back in one of our discussions.
“Actually he wasn't "vouched for" in the TSBD..... Sure Truly said "he's an employee"... "he belongs here" But only an hour later he singled out Oswald as the only employee missing.... “ (Walt)
I explained to Walt that NO roll call was done and that LHO was NOT the ONLY one missing, but he jumped into attack mode and would not listen. Imagine my surprise when I saw this exchange from 1999 with Martin Shackleford!
“A roll call of the TSBD employees was conducted and several men were missing...The cops would definitely have asked the other employees if they knew where the missing men were.” (Walt – 8/17/1999)
"Walt: There was no roll call. Various groups of employees were questioned, and their names taken down, but there was no group gathering. When Capt. Fritz later referred to this questioning, Lt. Gerry Hill misinterpreted it as a "roll call," and referred to it in those terms--and it passed into myth.” (Martin Shackleford)
“Thanks Martin....I never knew this and had always accepted the myth.....The fact that the false information originated with Detective Gerry Hill is not surprising. Hill is the source of much of the false information in.this case.” (Walt)
So this is proof Walt was told at least once (probably many other times too) that NO roll call was ever done by Truly and we see even he knew back in 1999 LHO was not the only one missing.
I admit my quote of Walt's is NOT the best, but he was insisting on a roll call and that LHO was the only one missing with me. The point is we know Ben knows this is NOT the truth, but we did NOT hear from him in this exchange. Ben has said this about the roll call and the point of LHO being the only one missing.
"He was the only TSBD worker to permanently leave the building *after* the assassination and before dismissal later that afternoon.” (LNer)
“Another LNT'er factoid... simply untrue. Why lie about the evidence?
As most long-time readers of this forum are well aware, there were a number of people that weren't there after the assassination - one of them even had an APB put out on him.” (Ben Holmes)
So why did Ben NOT call Walt on his lie, and I use this word because we see he was set straight at least once before, as he said he does this on many occasions? Obviously Walt COULD NOT support his claim because it is untrue, and despite Ben saying this among other things, we did NOT hear from him.
“When people refuse to support their own assertions, I merely point it out.” (Ben Holmes – 7/9/09)
Why can Walt make blatant claims like the LNers but we do NOT see a response from Ben when he says he won't tolerate this stuff? Because they are a pair of WC shills (maybe the same person). No real CTer would continue to spread false information after they were told the truth.